Author Topic: League Cup and Club World Cup. (Read 180459 times)

stevieG786 · « **Reply #440 on:** June 20, 2019, 12:13:59 pm »

i want to see us win the

The Premier League
The European Cup
The FA Cup
The super cup
and the World club cup

Is that too much to ask??

not assed about the league cup btw

Ocean Red · « **Reply #441 on:** June 27, 2019, 02:43:07 pm »

7 trophies to go for next season, 3 trophies to go for before the end of the year!

accyred · « **Reply #442 on:** June 27, 2019, 07:11:22 pm »

Quote from: stevieG786 on June 20, 2019, 12:13:59 pm

i want to see us win the

The Premier League
The European Cup
The FA Cup
The super cup
and the World club cup

Is that too much to ask??

not assed about the league cup btw

Aim to win every game. The community shield, super cup and CWC are 4 games for 3 trophies should be sending the full team better than any training session or pre season games win the lot

Ratboy3G · « **Reply #443 on:** June 27, 2019, 08:40:42 pm »

Quote from: harleydanger on June 19, 2019, 06:35:13 am

Win all 7 and talk about priorities afterwards

Is right

murphs316 · « **Reply #444 on:** June 28, 2019, 11:44:12 am »

At least it is not all the way off to Japan in December like last time

classycarra · « **Reply #445 on:** June 28, 2019, 11:48:08 am »

Quote from: murphs316 on June 28, 2019, 11:44:12 am

At least it is not all the way off to Japan in December like last time

Yeah that four hours they save on flights to the UAE will make all the difference!

kavah · « **Reply #446 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:04:48 pm »

Quote from: Classycara on June 28, 2019, 11:48:08 am

Yeah that four hours they save on flights to the UAE will make all the difference!

The 7h:30 flight v the 12h:40minute flight from Tokyo must be far less taxing, especially in first class, add in the time difference (+3 v +8) and the whole affair is far less arduous than the games in the 80s. Obviously not ideal but similar to playing in Moscow, Istanbul etc.

markedasred · « **Reply #447 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:48:46 pm »

It's great that the first dividends of last seasons points haul and cup win is a near enough 50/50 chance to win 3 more trophies before we get started in earnest. The feeling I have about being in the mix is like a fish being back in water. Those of you that are thinking that Man City can win everything forever from now on, let me remind you that it was not so long ago that it was assumed Chelsea would from then on be unbeatable. Honestly, talented football journalists wrote about it en masse.

Ocean Red · « **Reply #448 on:** July 3, 2019, 10:57:03 am »

Now On Wikipedia its says the fifa club world cup will start on Wednesday 11th December and will end on Sunday 22nd December. But i cant find it confirmed anywhere else. Can anyone confirm this? Also what day would be our semi final? If i remember correctly in 2005 we played on the Thursday before we played in the final on the Sunday. Where we were totally robbed.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #449 on:** July 3, 2019, 11:14:10 am »

The dates havent been decided

LFCEmpire · « **Reply #450 on:** July 3, 2019, 11:28:32 am »

Would love for us to win the Community Shield just to beat City at a final, sets the tone for the season.

Danny Boy · « **Reply #451 on:** July 3, 2019, 12:08:53 pm »

Quote from: LFCEmpire on July 3, 2019, 11:28:32 am

Would love for us to win the Community Shield just to beat City at a final, sets the tone for the season.

This although would also love for them to release the ticket details too!!

Ocean Red · « **Reply #452 on:** July 3, 2019, 12:09:08 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on July 3, 2019, 11:14:10 am

The dates havent been decided

Ok thanks, only saw and could find these dates on Wikipedia. Nowhere else.

gray19lfc · « **Reply #453 on:** July 3, 2019, 12:22:55 pm »

Quote from: Ocean Red on July 3, 2019, 10:57:03 am

Also what day would be our semi final?

Semi final dates in 2018 were the week before Xmas. Equivalent dates this year would be Tue 17th / Wed 18th December.

anfieldpurch · « **Reply #454 on:** July 3, 2019, 04:03:39 pm »

Quote from: Ocean Red on July 3, 2019, 10:57:03 am

Now On Wikipedia its says the fifa club world cup will start on Wednesday 11th December and will end on Sunday 22nd December. But i cant find it confirmed anywhere else. Can anyone confirm this? Also what day would be our semi final? If i remember correctly in 2005 we played on the Thursday before we played in the final on the Sunday. Where we were totally robbed.

The final Champions League group stage games are the 11th so I would be very surprised if they had it starting on that week although if there are a number of games before we enter, I assume it would be feasible

Jookie · « **Reply #455 on:** July 5, 2019, 08:51:37 am »

Quote from: Danny Boy on July 3, 2019, 12:08:53 pm

This although would also love for them to release the ticket details too!!

What's going on with this?

Not seen anything about ticket sales or what the qualifying criteria will be.

Read that we are getting 28k tickets so hopefully I'll be able to get sorted.

Ocean Red · « **Reply #456 on:** July 9, 2019, 01:23:58 am »

With the uefa super cup, will we be allowed 12 subs, like in the uefa champions league final?

ChaChaMooMoo · « **Reply #457 on:** July 9, 2019, 06:38:20 am »

Quote from: harleydanger on June 19, 2019, 06:35:13 am

Win all 7 and talk about priorities afterwards

What he said.

-Willo- · « **Reply #458 on:** July 13, 2019, 11:41:35 am »

Will we have our strongest 11 for the super cup? In my opinion its a major trophy (And I think the club agrees as we have it on 'the wall')

But quite a few lads have been to the Copa America/AFCON. So have my doubts?

classycarra · « **Reply #459 on:** July 13, 2019, 12:22:21 pm »

Quote from: -Willo- on July 13, 2019, 11:41:35 am

Will we have our strongest 11 for the super cup? In my opinion its a major trophy (And I think the club agrees as we have it on 'the wall')

But quite a few lads have been to the Copa America/AFCON. So have my doubts?

Whats the subs rules? Is it like the community shield - something like 6 subs? Ideally it's like that but with the full squad on the bench like in the CL final.

I think we'll definitely see a weakened team, and probably mix the starters from our strongest team across the two games (trent in one, Robbo in another. Matip in one, VVD in another).

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #460 on:** July 13, 2019, 12:48:54 pm »

Quote from: -Willo- on July 13, 2019, 11:41:35 am

Will we have our strongest 11 for the super cup? In my opinion its a major trophy (And I think the club agrees as we have it on 'the wall')

But quite a few lads have been to the Copa America/AFCON. So have my doubts?

I think they'll play as it will be like a pre-season friendly for them. You have to play matches to get match sharpness.

classycarra · « **Reply #461 on:** July 13, 2019, 12:52:33 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on July 13, 2019, 12:48:54 pm

I think they'll play as it will be like a pre-season friendly for them. You have to play matches to get match sharpness.

Yeah, the good thing about playing another team from our league is we'll be preparing to similar timelines. Also more likely to have almost semi-agreed levels of rotation as you see when bigger teams play each other in the league cup (eg the spurs game at anfield where TAA debuted)

him_15 · « **Reply #462 on:** July 14, 2019, 03:06:02 pm »

We should try hard to win the uefa super cap, it's another trophy, and it is certainly winnable.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #463 on:** July 14, 2019, 03:07:10 pm »

It's good to see Alex breaking forward like that.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #464 on:** July 14, 2019, 03:09:04 pm »

Quote from: jillc on July 14, 2019, 03:07:10 pm

It's good to see Alex breaking forward like that.

Wrong thread

Ghost Town · « **Reply #465 on:** July 16, 2019, 02:34:22 pm »

The trophies will start coming like buses now. Focus on one at a time and win them all

Ocean Red · « **Reply #466 on:** July 18, 2019, 02:27:07 am »

Out of all the 3 more trophies we could win before the end of this year 2019, if I had to choose only one, I would deffo choose would be the fifa club world cup, we have never won it before, and it is a chance to be officially called Club World Champions, and have a nice shiny gold badge on our shirts too.!

him_15 · « **Reply #467 on:** July 18, 2019, 03:25:53 am »

Quote from: Ocean Red on July 18, 2019, 02:27:07 am

Out of all the 3 more trophies we could win before the end of this year 2019, if I had to choose only one, I would deffo choose would be the fifa club world cup, we have never won it before, and it is a chance to be officially called Club World Champions, and have a nice shiny gold badge on our shirts too.!

We should be more than capable to win it if we go hard for it. The point is how to make the balance between the prem games in between.

roots99 · « **Reply #468 on:** July 18, 2019, 06:32:51 pm »

The Times is reporting Liverpool will also be playing a new FIFA version of the Club World Cup in summer 2021. Apparently 'an agreement has been reached' between FIFA and UEFA and the Qatar one in December will be the penultimate of its kind. It will replace the Confederations Cup in the FIFA calendar.

Last 4 European Cup winners + another 4 UEFA teams (probably decided by co-efficient, max 2 per country) + 14 teams from other confederations.

I've no idea what happens with the 2021 AfCoN players like Salah, Mane and Keita. Nor how the African club champions could compete given they probably have a load of internationals.

Anyway, it's behind the paywall here: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/manchester-united-face-fifa-club-world-cup-snub-6f3p35nkb

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #469 on:** July 22, 2019, 11:29:31 pm »

Fifa muppets have yet confirm with the club when the World Championship games are taking place they have not sent an invite nor has the Fa received anything from them either.

Club is asking if star players need to play in tournament as Klopp is looking to use that opportunity for added rotation

classycarra · « **Reply #470 on:** July 22, 2019, 11:33:41 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on July 22, 2019, 11:29:31 pm

Club is asking if star players need to play in tournament as Klopp is looking to use that opportunity for added rotation

That's a naive mistake. Better to do it and apologise than ask permission and be denied

Ocean Red · « **Reply #471 on:** July 23, 2019, 01:03:05 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on July 22, 2019, 11:29:31 pm

Fifa muppets have yet confirm with the club when the World Championship games are taking place they have not sent an invite nor has the Fa received anything from them either.

Club is asking if star players need to play in tournament as Klopp is looking to use that opportunity for added rotation

Where has this info been reported?

killer-heels · « **Reply #472 on:** July 23, 2019, 01:15:51 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on July 22, 2019, 11:29:31 pm

Fifa muppets have yet confirm with the club when the World Championship games are taking place they have not sent an invite nor has the Fa received anything from them either.

Club is asking if star players need to play in tournament as Klopp is looking to use that opportunity for added rotation

Why do we need to ask them? Just rotate and tell FIFA to fuck off and die.

ChaChaMooMoo · « **Reply #473 on:** July 23, 2019, 01:26:57 pm »

Quote from: roots99 on July 18, 2019, 06:32:51 pm

The Times is reporting Liverpool will also be playing a new FIFA version of the Club World Cup in summer 2021. Apparently 'an agreement has been reached' between FIFA and UEFA and the Qatar one in December will be the penultimate of its kind. It will replace the Confederations Cup in the FIFA calendar.

Last 4 European Cup winners + another 4 UEFA teams (probably decided by co-efficient, max 2 per country) + 14 teams from other confederations.

So this FIFA club world cup will replace the Confederations Cup and will be played in the summer. And the club world cup (6 association winners) will end in 2020.
So a National team competition will be replaced by a club competition.

2018 FIFA World Cup
2019 AFCON
2020 Euros
2021 AFCON / FIFA Club World Cup

2022 FIFA World Cup
2023 AFCON
2024 Euros
2025 AFCON / FIFA Club World Cup

2026 FIFA World Cup
2027 AFCON
2028 Euros
2029 AFCON / FIFA Club World Cup

Is it how this works?!?

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #474 on:** July 23, 2019, 01:29:50 pm »

Quote from: ChaChaMooMoo on July 23, 2019, 01:26:57 pm

So this FIFA club world cup will replace the Confederations Cup and will be played in the summer. And the club world cup (6 association winners) will end in 2020.
So a National team competition will be replaced by a club competition.

2018 FIFA World Cup
2019 AFCON
2020 Euros
2021 AFCON / FIFA Club World Cup

2022 FIFA World Cup
2023 AFCON
2024 Euros
2025 AFCON / FIFA Club World Cup

2026 FIFA World Cup
2027 AFCON
2028 Euros
2029 AFCON / FIFA Club World Cup

Is it how this works?!?

Is there a reason why they can't have the Euro's, Afcon etc all in the same year? Having the AFCON every 2 years needs fucked off aswell.

Ocean Red · « **Reply #475 on:** July 23, 2019, 01:34:01 pm »

Will fifa allow us to take a weakened squad for the club world cup in December?

ChaChaMooMoo · « **Reply #476 on:** July 23, 2019, 01:46:39 pm »

Quote from: Barneylfc on July 23, 2019, 01:29:50 pm

Is there a reason why they can't have the Euro's, Afcon etc all in the same year? Having the AFCON every 2 years needs fucked off aswell.

I dont understand how someone at FIFA went ahead with that sort of planning.

Reserve 1 summer for the association competitions of NTs.
Reserve 1 summer for the 6 best national teams (from each association)
Reserve 1 summer for a deserved summer break.
Reserve 1 summer for the FIFA NT World cup.

Rinse and repeat.

roots99 · « **Reply #477 on:** July 23, 2019, 03:01:34 pm »

Quote from: Barneylfc on July 23, 2019, 01:29:50 pm

Is there a reason why they can't have the Euro's, Afcon etc all in the same year? Having the AFCON every 2 years needs fucked off aswell.

I'd guess it's because the AfCoN would be canabalised by the Euros. They'd effectively be competing against each other for sponsor income in similar timezones. It's not in the interest of the 56 CAF associations and FIFA votes to have half the tournaments and at the worst possible time.

Ocean Red · « **Reply #478 on:** July 23, 2019, 06:55:21 pm »

If klopp does want to rest a few players for the club world cup, if fifa ends up allowing it, i think the African players, mane, keita, salah, and the South American players Allisson, Firmino and Fabinho will all say to klopp they want to play in it, but klopp does have the final say though. It is bigger for Asian, African, South American players this competition. Its not prestigious in Europe though so some of the European players might not mind not taking part, or they might mind. Just a thought.

SteveZissou · « **Reply #479 on:** July 23, 2019, 09:39:30 pm »

I reckon we will take the Club World Cup more seriously than the FA and League Cups cos its the 2nd fastest route to a real trophy. Probably a little less importance for Super Cup (the fastest route), cos it would tougher playing Chelsea when both teams are still tuning their engines.

Once we get the World Cup in our hands, Klopp will be ready to play the kids in the FA Cup... and focus on the league title again.

It's pretty obvious though that if City somehow win their first 20 games in a row in the league then we will take the FA Cup seriously.

Many will think we take the FA Cup and League Cup seriously this season. I don't think so. If anything, with the fatigue and after last year's marathon league push, we will look to rest our key players in those domestic Cups again.

Last year we didn't have these shorter competitions to get a Cup, so this time we got a gimme for a trophy anyway.