Topic: Will Kenny or Comoli be scouting any players at the international matches

[Smug Cassandra]

I have been thinking about whether LFC should take Torres back (hypothetically of course)

I think it would be a good bit of business at maybe 18-20 million.

In this modern football world order I dont think I would be precious about it. 

But I cant help feeling we need some burning pace up front and I think hes lost a bit of it.

[Malaysian Kopite]

I have been thinking about whether LFC should take Torres back (hypothetically of course)

I think it would be a good bit of business at maybe 18-20 million.

In this modern football world order I dont think I would be precious about it. 

But I cant help feeling we need some burning pace up front and I think hes lost a bit of it.

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

I have been thinking about whether LFC should take Torres back (hypothetically of course)

I think it would be a good bit of business at maybe 18-20 million.

In this modern football world order I dont think I would be precious about it. 

But I cant help feeling we need some burning pace up front and I think hes lost a bit of it.

Has been

[Ultimate Bromance]

I have been thinking about whether LFC should take Torres back (hypothetically of course)

I think it would be a good bit of business at maybe 18-20 million.

In this modern football world order I dont think I would be precious about it. 

But I cant help feeling we need some burning pace up front and I think hes lost a bit of it.

Aye let's fuck Carroll and Suarez off and get Torres and Owen back! Wet dream come true. Christ.

[Fordy]

I have been thinking about whether LFC should take Torres back (hypothetically of course)

I think it would be a good bit of business at maybe 18-20 million.

In this modern football world order I dont think I would be precious about it. 

But I cant help feeling we need some burning pace up front and I think hes lost a bit of it.

Seriously you're worse than Mac_Red.

Mac_Red wants Torres back because he is a sucker for names(A dreamer).

I can let him off with that but you I am sorry you have given a footballing reason and I am sorry I just can't accept it.

Our team does lack pace but I am convinced we will buy a few players that will add pace to the squad in the summer.

[Fordy]

Seen a couple of rumours about this would prefer him to Adam

Kranjcar plays LM, Adam plays CM - Spot the difference.

Adam has nothing to do with Kranjcar

[Chakan]

I have been thinking about whether LFC should take Torres back (hypothetically of course)

I think it would be a good bit of business at maybe 18-20 million.

In this modern football world order I dont think I would be precious about it. 

But I cant help feeling we need some burning pace up front and I think hes lost a bit of it.

I think we should get Messi. You know hypothetically.

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

Kranjcar plays LM, Adam plays CM - Spot the difference.

Adam has nothing to do with Kranjcar

No dear Fordy he plays just about everywhere in the midfield and has play CM alot. Like I said much better option than Adam

[bailey90]

Would Kranjcar want to come here and be on the bench though? I think that's where he'd be to be honest.

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

Would Kranjcar want to come here and be on the bench though? I think that's where he'd be to be honest.

I think our bench is made of better wood. Seriously I can see him having more playing time here.

[Kochevnik]

I have been thinking about whether LFC should take Torres back (hypothetically of course)

I think it would be a good bit of business at maybe 18-20 million.

In this modern football world order I dont think I would be precious about it. 

But I cant help feeling we need some burning pace up front and I think hes lost a bit of it.

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

Kranjcar plays LM, Adam plays CM - Spot the difference.

Adam has nothing to do with Kranjcar

Ofcourse McCarthy is way better than both

[Fuzion6]

McCarthy is a fantastic player.

Anyway re Adam...with 4411 being the formation of choice I really am beginning to think that in some matches Adam will be playing a narrow LM if we buy him. In other games he will be CM with Gerrard ala the Scholes-Carrick partnership (which beat Chelsea last week but got battered by us a few weeks ago - regardless a Gerrard-Adam CM would be pretty darn useful agaisnt the lower half team).

[Fordy]

No dear Fordy he plays just about everywhere in the midfield and has play CM alot. Like I said much better option than Adam

He mainly has played LM in the PL  - It's like comparing Samba with Carroll. Just cause Samba has played as a CF a few times doesn't mean that's his normal position.

Just face it you have got this wrong - Compare him with Milner or Young but not with a player that's not played LM for about 3 years.

[Flinstone]

Kranjcar plays LM, Adam plays CM - Spot the difference.

Adam has nothing to do with Kranjcar

think hes orginially a CM.no space in spurs for him to play there so they have shunted him to the left.

superb technique,would be a good shout but i would still prefer adam for his sheer range.

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

McCarthy is a fantastic player.

Anyway re Adam...with 4411 being the formation of choice I really am beginning to think that in some matches Adam will be playing a narrow LM if we buy him. In other games he will be CM with Gerrard ala the Scholes-Carrick partnership (which beat Chelsea last week but got battered by us a few weeks ago - regardless a Gerrard-Adam CM would be pretty darn useful agaisnt the lower half team).

Can't really see Gerrard and Adam playing without a designated DM, as for the narrow CM we already have Shelvey and Meireles who can do that LW would be the play to get the pacey winger

[Fordy]

Ofcourse McCarthy is way better than both

He has already turned us down once and I doubt he would join us. He wants to play week in, week out and he wont get that here.

Move on.

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

He mainly has played LM in the PL  - It's like comparing Samba with Carroll. Just cause Samba has played as a CF a few times doesn't mean that's his normal position.

Just face it you have got this wrong - Compare him with Milner or Young but not with a player that's not played LM for about 3 years.

Nope you've got it wrong mate. When I've see him play for spurs its been CM. He played wide at Spurs but also played CM

[Fordy]

Can't really see Gerrard and Adam playing without a designated DM, as for the narrow CM we already have Shelvey and Meireles who can do that LW would be the play to get the pacey winger

What - Neither Shelvey or Raul are left footed.

We have our DM players at the club  - Lucas! You know Lucas the lad that plays in that position. Adam wouldn't play in a 4-4-2 and we won't be playing 4-4-2 all the time.

[Fordy]

Nope you've got it wrong mate. When I've see him play for spurs its been CM. He played wide at Spurs but also played CM

Pompy he played LM and at Spurs its been LM 90% of the time.

[Juan Loco]

I think this summer we'll sign Adam, Young, Enrique and maybe a CB. I'd much rather we get Baines obviously but it's looking more nailed on that it's Jose.

Same, as of right now. If that centreback is Cahill I'd be very happy. I think we'll end up signing Marveaux as well.

I'd be chuffed if we could get Conor Wickham to add to that.

[Fordy]

Same, as of right now. If that centreback is Cahill I'd be very happy. I think we'll end up signing Marveaux as well.

I'd be chuffed if we could get Conor Wickham to add to that.

Think we will be signing a forward mate to replace Ngog - Wickham would be a great buy

[Fuzion6]

I agree with Adam, Enrique and Young arriving along with a CB. I also think we will make a move for a reserve forward player - Wickham perhaps but I was thinking of someone like Gervinho who could play wide as well as up front.

[Juan Loco]

Think we will be signing a forward mate to replace Ngog - Wickham would be a great buy

That's what I hope. There's the case to be made that maybe Morgan or Ngoo are making them think twice, but neither have had a year in the reserves yet, and we don't have a proper striker there. Give Morgan and Ngoo a year (or two) there then out on loan, and have them looking at Kuyt's role in the squad over the long term.

Defo could do with a striker who can play off the shoulder. A bit more variation.

[Fuzion6]

Wickham is more of a target man...not really the off the shoulder type.

[Smug Cassandra]

so you are trying to tell me there is no price point so we could have torres, suarez and carroll as options. That is plain stupid. Is jus what the price point is. Personally I don't think kenny would have him back. I for one wouldn't be against it.

[Juan Loco]

I agree with Adam, Enrique and Young arriving along with a CB. I also think we will make a move for a reserve forward player - Wickham perhaps but I was thinking of someone like Gervinho who could play wide as well as up front.

To be fair, these things can change. It's 3 months or so before this even opens. Whilst I think at the moment those are the most likely targets, someone like M'Vila may come more to the fore over the next few months rather than Adam (if Kenny was on a scouting trip at the weekend).

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

What - Neither Shelvey or Raul are left footed.

We have our DM players at the club  - Lucas! You know Lucas the lad that plays in that position. Adam wouldn't play in a 4-4-2 and we won't be playing 4-4-2 all the time.

What are you talking about? You obviously know I meant Raul and Shelvey for RM and LW for a pacey winger. Like I said, I cannot see Gerrard and Adam playing together in CM of a 4-4-2. From all indications Kenny obviously prefers playing Raul higher up the park than in CM, and we have played 4-4-2 since Carroll and Suarez have been in the team so buying a player for a formation you may use some of the time doesn't really make sense does it?

[Juan Loco]

Wickham is more of a target man...not really the off the shoulder type.

Not when I've seen him mate. He's more from the Torres or Henry template... but with a lot of rough edges to be smoothed out.

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

I agree with Adam, Enrique and Young arriving along with a CB. I also think we will make a move for a reserve forward player - Wickham perhaps but I was thinking of someone like Gervinho who could play wide as well as up front.

Where does that leave Pacheco? Would rather he was our back-up forward, he'd learn alot from Suarez

[No666]

Kenny went to see Wickham in person, I believe, so must be seriously considering.

[Ultimate Bromance]

I agree with Adam, Enrique and Young arriving along with a CB. I also think we will make a move for a reserve forward player - Wickham perhaps but I was thinking of someone like Gervinho who could play wide as well as up front.

When you think about the number of players we'll probably be shipping out, I honestly don't think those 4 are enough to improve the squad depth overall. Add Marveux, Wickham and maybe another attacking utility player to the list and I'd be pretty pleased.

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

Kenny went to see Wickham in person, I believe, so must be seriously considering.

When was this? I think if we follow the games Kenny has been at it'll give us a better idea of who our realistic targets are. Comolli will probably look at tons of players but Kenny will most likely only look at serious targets

[Juan Loco]

Kenny went to see Wickham in person, I believe, so must be seriously considering.

The initial rumours were that prefered Spurs or Arsenal because of their record of bringing through youngsters. Hopefully seeing the likes of Flanno get a game last night, and Kelly, Spearing and Shelvey this season will make him see that things are changing at Liverpool in that regard. Also arguably a pretty clear path into the first team squad for him, although Spurs and Arsenal would argue the same I'm sure.

[Fuzion6]

Not when I've seen him mate. He's more from the Torres or Henry template... but with a lot of rough edges to be smoothed out.

Will take your word on it mate, not seen Wickham much and I think you likely have a fair bit more. A fast player who can head the ball fits the bill for me! Btw don't rule out Van Wolfswinkel...I think Comolli is a big fan and he is a real goal poacher.

Agree re targets and we being still a few months away...however I won't be surprise if a lot of deals are being sorted out now. There aren't any world cups etc distracting players this year and I think a lot of focus is on where players (and where agents are movign their players!) are going.

[No666]

When was this? I think if we follow the games Kenny has been at it'll give us a better idea of who our realistic targets are. Comolli will probably look at tons of players but Kenny will most likely only look at serious targets

Watched him in an England under-19(?) game, iirc.

Edit: Yep, here you go -
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-transfer-news-Dalglish-watches-Ipswichs-Connor-Wickham-and-Palaces-Wilfried-Zaha-on-England-U19-duty-article694265.html

[Juan Loco]

Will take your word on it mate, not seen Wickham much and I think you likely have a fair bit more. A fast player who can head the ball fits the bill for me!

I really can't remember many headers he's scored. Just Burnley recently (shocking header mind you - very fortunate for me, although others will argue that you're meant to head it down). He's very strong and physically developed for his age, but I wouldn't describe him as a targetman. I think he's very much like Torres without a bit of the nous and subtlety that Torres had at his best.

Still, tell me who this reminds you of...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu6DULU0G3w

[Cpt_Reina]

I really can't remember many headers he's scored. Just Burnley recently (shocking header mind you - very fortunate for me, although others will argue that you're meant to head it down). He's very strong and physically developed for his age, but I wouldn't describe him as a targetman. I think he's very much like Torres without a bit of the nous and subtlety that Torres had at his best.

Still, tell me who this reminds you of...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu6DULU0G3w

He's torres-esq in his play but does he really have the pace to play the role as effectively? Whenever ive seen him he's never really shown much explosive pace, wouldnt say hes slow but not fast either, only from limited viewing though.

[Fuzion6]

Definitely like that vid JL. Only seen him a couple of times and he never really showed much burst but I agree that he is pretty big for a young lad which may be why I was viewing him more as a target man.

With regards to back up wingers - am I the only one who rates Chris Brunt? Would probably prefer him to Jarvis to be honest...

[Mr Dilkington]

Wickham is the real deal, no doubts.

I think even he knew how shite that header against Burnley was. 

Would be nice to have both Wickham and Carroll, i think Wickham could become a lot more dangerous if he learned from Carroll, though Andy still has a lot to learn himself.

It's inevitable we'll be looking at Wickham, who isn't? Would look good on paper to have N'goo, Morgan, Wickham.... all who are highly thought of by the England youth teams.

I think it would be cool to sign Wickham at 10 million, send Ngog on loan to like a West Brom, then reevaluate after next season.