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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12840 on: April 12, 2024, 01:01:33 am »
Watched the goals again and his defending for their 2nd and 3rd was pathetic. Just jogging without any purpose. Neither closing the player down, trying to keep an offside line, or cutting down passing lane. Maybe he actually believes his aura defending is real.

Should close down faster for the second but third isn't on him. Gomez at sea and Konate should be on a swivel too.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12841 on: April 12, 2024, 01:11:12 am »
Should close down faster for the second but third isn't on him. Gomez at sea and Konate should be on a swivel too.
The third was Szobo fault first and foremost. Can't criticise Gomez who was so far up as we were pushing for a goal. But VVD could have played the runner offside yet he looked really clueless there, as if he didn't even know what to do at all. Head probably gone at that minute though.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12842 on: April 12, 2024, 01:43:59 am »
The third was Szobo fault first and foremost. Can't criticise Gomez who was so far up as we were pushing for a goal. But VVD could have played the runner offside yet he looked really clueless there, as if he didn't even know what to do at all. Head probably gone at that minute though.

Got my goals mixed up, meant the second. The third was a shambles all round I agree.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12843 on: April 12, 2024, 04:43:02 pm »
The third was Szobo fault first and foremost. Can't criticise Gomez who was so far up as we were pushing for a goal. But VVD could have played the runner offside yet he looked really clueless there, as if he didn't even know what to do at all. Head probably gone at that minute though.
It was actually Konate who played their lad onside - VVD could have done better in closing down but the reason for that was Robbo went on his one man press which left their player free.

As I said in another post, moment Robbo went to press - I had flashbacks of the Real Madrid goal in the final 2 years ago ...
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12844 on: Yesterday at 09:23:57 pm »
What an old woman. I’m sick looking at this guy flapping his arms and waving like an aul one who’s lost her cat.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12845 on: Yesterday at 10:14:39 pm »
I think I've seen him have worse matches but even last season was at its worse I didn't feel as little for him as I do tonight. The days of him being number one are long gone and he's gradually performed worse over the course of the season. Agree with the last post about him constantly flailing his arms in the face of any sort of adversity. I've never really bothered with the captaincy stuff and who should have it but I genuinely believe this, it shouldn't be this fella. Would give it to Mac Allister.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12846 on: Yesterday at 10:21:43 pm »
Great player. Not captain material.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12847 on: Yesterday at 10:51:47 pm »
Still my favourite player of the Klopp era. Hasn't been himself last few weeks but he's hardly on his own there. Some of our players get some ridiculous amount of stick, from our own fans. It's mental. I'd still have him over any other centre back anywhere. When the team are off it the centre backs look awful. Running from everywhere that the TV cameras dont see. 

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12848 on: Yesterday at 10:53:01 pm »
Great player. Not captain material.

He's probably as frustrated as us watching the shite we've been playing recently. Thent there's the thousand passes between him and Ali a game
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12849 on: Yesterday at 11:24:45 pm »
Pretty close to being the player who slipped furthest below his usual standards today. He was absolutely terrible. I don't think he won a contested header the whole game. Lost his composure due the Ref's antics, and didn't get it back. Completely lost the plot for the second goal.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12850 on: Yesterday at 11:29:26 pm »
Fair enough if you want to critique his performance tonight but to say he’s not a Captain is pretty wild considering what this man did only 2 months ago in a cup final.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12851 on: Yesterday at 11:59:39 pm »
Fair enough if you want to critique his performance tonight but to say he’s not a Captain is pretty wild considering what this man did only 2 months ago in a cup final.

His performances personally have been fine, in fact excellent. Perhaps his style of captaincy worked better when the kids were playing earlier in the season, where he was leading by example.

But I still feel we're badly missing the captaincy of Jordan and James Milner. I feel we wouldn't be starting vital games slowly, and drops in performance levels would be rectified on the pitch much more often. If we'd started the game like we did against Palace, those two would have been running around going absolutely crazy.

Frankly Virgil should have been handling out a few bollockings the last few weeks. Robbo and Trent also have not shown enough on pitch leadership. Robertson seemed to completely lose his composure today. constantly having trouble with football basics.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12852 on: Today at 12:03:30 am »
Great player. Not captain material.

Some proper shite posted on here tonight.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12853 on: Today at 12:12:13 am »
To be fair, he was literally trying to defend 3 positions tonight .

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12854 on: Today at 09:23:00 am »
I feel a bit sorry for Van Dijk, where is the rest of the team, especially the defence on set pieces? Why if Van Dijk gets marked out of it does the opponent get a free header, its a shambles.

That was our strongest back 5 and they looked like they'd never played together.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12855 on: Today at 11:35:51 am »
Van Dijk: “Arne Slot is one of the better Dutch coaches at the moment”.

“With the way he plays, the philosophy he has, he can be a Liverpool coach”.

“But I read and hear that it is far from complete. We shall see. We will focus on that next season, still a long way off”.

I don’t know when or where he said that but apparently he did. Pretty much confirms it all. Anyway, “one of the better Dutch coaches at the moment” isn’t much of an endorsement :D

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12856 on: Today at 11:43:02 am »
I feel a bit sorry for Van Dijk, where is the rest of the team, especially the defence on set pieces? Why if Van Dijk gets marked out of it does the opponent get a free header, its a shambles.

That was our strongest back 5 and they looked like they'd never played together.
They had hardly played together before, certainly not this season!

Their set-pieces were insanity on our behalf though.  You could see Tarkowski instructing all their players to step six yards towards the back post and our players didn't react at all.  My job is to guard this square of grass and I will do so no matter what attitude.  Virgil gets caught under the ball with the aid of some (legal) blocking and we have Trent up against their grocks at the back post.

Also, how we didn't seemingly prepare for them launching balls up to Calvert-Lewin is bewildering as it's their only attacking option.  We got given the run around by Atalanta hitting long balls up to Scamacca and getting runners off him but seemingly learnt nothing from the experience.

I think Klopp encourages more free-thinking than some other elite managers but our players still seem to lack that in-game adaptation and management at the moment.  The stat that flashed up seconds before their second goal that they had won 5/5 of the first balls from corners is incredible (soon to become 6/6 and 2-0).  They have some big lads but we're hardly Guardiola's Barca.

It's not all on Virgil by any means but as our most experienced defender and captain some of it is.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12857 on: Today at 12:23:43 pm »
Van Dijk: “Arne Slot is one of the better Dutch coaches at the moment”.

“With the way he plays, the philosophy he has, he can be a Liverpool coach”.

“But I read and hear that it is far from complete. We shall see. We will focus on that next season, still a long way off”.

I don’t know when or where he said that but apparently he did. Pretty much confirms it all. Anyway, “one of the better Dutch coaches at the moment” isn’t much of an endorsement :D

Van Djik is not one to go OTT about anything.

You only have to listen to his interviews very casual but gives little away.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12858 on: Today at 12:27:35 pm »
Van Dijk: “Arne Slot is one of the better Dutch coaches at the moment”.

“With the way he plays, the philosophy he has, he can be a Liverpool coach”.

“But I read and hear that it is far from complete. We shall see. We will focus on that next season, still a long way off”.

I don’t know when or where he said that but apparently he did. Pretty much confirms it all. Anyway, “one of the better Dutch coaches at the moment” isn’t much of an endorsement :D

He's hardly going to say he's the best - ie., better than Red Ron - is he.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12859 on: Today at 01:24:49 pm »
Van Dijk: “Arne Slot is one of the better Dutch coaches at the moment”.

“With the way he plays, the philosophy he has, he can be a Liverpool coach”.

“But I read and hear that it is far from complete. We shall see. We will focus on that next season, still a long way off”.

I don’t know when or where he said that but apparently he did. Pretty much confirms it all. Anyway, “one of the better Dutch coaches at the moment” isn’t much of an endorsement :D

I’m surprised he actually said something.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)
« Reply #12860 on: Today at 01:58:14 pm »
Van Dijk: “Arne Slot is one of the better Dutch coaches at the moment”.

“With the way he plays, the philosophy he has, he can be a Liverpool coach”.

“But I read and hear that it is far from complete. We shall see. We will focus on that next season, still a long way off”.

I don’t know when or where he said that but apparently he did. Pretty much confirms it all. Anyway, “one of the better Dutch coaches at the moment” isn’t much of an endorsement :D

What the fuck do you want him to say? Slot is the second coming of Rinus Michels and Johan Cruyff combined?