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The brexit secretary voted against the motion he had just spoken in favor of


:lmao


But also terrifyingly inept
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The only way Brexit could take any longer is if it was reviewed by VAR.

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The brexit secretary voted against the motion he had just spoken in favor of


:lmao


But also terrifyingly inept
Probably had his arm twisted by one of the rogue whips.
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The brexit secretary voted against the motion he had just spoken in favor of


:lmao


But also terrifyingly inept

Well of course he did, it’s totally consistent with the last few weeks. In days gone by that sort of thing would be seen as utterly bizarre, an outrageous hypocrisy and would have resulted in him resigning, if not before being made to do the speech then certainly after.

Under May’s Premiership it’s just “Thursday”.

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Well of course he did, it’s totally consistent with the last few weeks. In days gone by that sort of thing would be seen as utterly bizarre, an outrageous hypocrisy and would have resulted in him resigning, if not before being made to do the speech then certainly after.

Under May’s Premiership it’s just “Thursday”.


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Well of course he did, it’s totally consistent with the last few weeks. In days gone by that sort of thing would be seen as utterly bizarre, an outrageous hypocrisy and would have resulted in him resigning, if not before being made to do the speech then certainly after.

Under May’s Premiership it’s just “Thursday”.
Grayling probably voted for his constituency's Labour candidate at the General Election.
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I asked one of 15 Tory MPs who defied May by voting for Benn/Letwin/Cooper amendment, which was probably the surest route to avoid no deal Brexit, why more of his colleagues who hate no deal didn’t join rebels. “They are morons - genuinely not bright” he said.

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Grayling probably voted for his constituency's Labour candidate at the General Election.


And it cost (Tax payers) Ł500,000 just to get him to the polling station
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Second ref can't and won't happen unless these twats can somehow be made to change their mind.
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Good luck getting Hoey to do anything useful.  Absolute waste of skin, and how the fuck she embodies anything remotely close to the Labour norms (whatever they are these days) just baffles me.

She even looks evil.

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Won’t happen but I would love it if Ireland told them to stick their extension up their hole. They show a lack of respect for us daily and today has put me over the edge. Their word means fuck all and it never has.

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As per Peston, our fate is in the hands of people whom their own co-party colleagues refer to as 'morons - genuinely not bright'

We are sooooo fucked
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BRITAIN: We need to persuade the EU to give us the extension we need. Surely they won't turn us down, why would they do that?

FARRAGE THE TRAITOR: Hold my beer
You joke but i imagine some of the more eurosceptic EU leaders might oblige.
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Why?

It's like pulling teeth getting anywhere close to a referendum where's there'd only be a 50% chance of Brexit being cancelled. Revoking A50 is 100% cancelling Brexit. Absolutely no chance of this Parliament doing that IMO.
because it will be the only option on the table. If the EU won't grant an extension. We won't leave without a deal. I've said all along that Article 50 will be revoked at the eleventh hour. There's an outside chance May's deal will pass.

Revoking it will give them time to consider all options. It doesn't mean it is cancelled as they will invoke it again when they have found a consensus or a new referendum.

Nothing I have seen so far has made me change my mind
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You joke but i imagine some of the more eurosceptic EU leaders might oblige.
If you believe the rumours the deals have already been done
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They got the fluids from Aldi (hides)
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It's getting to the point where somebody will have to bite the bullet to break the impasse.  They're all a pack of disgraceful, craven dogs, who have made an utter show of themselves.  I hope the vast majority of the public quite rightly hold the whole lot of them in utter contempt. The sheer lack of leadership or spine is as astounding as it is disgusting.
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14/2 Amendment on seeking a 3 month extension to Article 50 from @IanBlackfordMP - Defeated by 222

14/3 exactly one month later. Seeking extension to Article 50 for three months - Wins by 211



Where shall we be come April 14th??  :o

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It's getting to the point where somebody will have to bite the bullet to break the impasse.  They're all a pack of disgraceful, craven dogs, who have made an utter show of themselves.  I hope the vast majority of the public quite rightly hold the whole lot of them in utter contempt. The sheer lack of leadership or spine is as astounding as it is disgusting.

The public are stupid. That is doubly so why we have this shambles.

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It's getting to the point where somebody will have to bite the bullet to break the impasse.  They're all a pack of disgraceful, craven dogs, who have made an utter show of themselves.  I hope the vast majority of the public quite rightly hold the whole lot of them in utter contempt. The sheer lack of leadership or spine is as astounding as it is disgusting.

The majority of the public support May and the majority of the country voted Brexit.

Half the people in this country believe that the politicians are fucking this up, but for the complete opposite reason you believe they are.

In conclusion, everyone' divided and this is the worst timeline.
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The whole thing is just an obscene waste of time and resources.

We could (and should) be spending time sorting out other more important issues.

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The majority of the public support May and the majority of the country voted Brexit.

Half the people in this country believe that the politicians are fucking this up, but for the complete opposite reason you believe they are.

In conclusion, everyone' divided and this is the worst timeline.

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How about this?

14/2 Amendment on seeking a 3 month extension to Article 50 from @IanBlackfordMP - Defeated by 222

14/3 exactly one month later. Seeking extension to Article 50 for three months - Wins by 211



Where shall we be come April 14th??  :o

It's all fraying. " 236 Labour MPs voted for the PM's motion to seek delay and only 112 Tories" (John Rentoul).
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How about this?

14/2 Amendment on seeking a 3 month extension to Article 50 from @IanBlackfordMP - Defeated by 222

14/3 exactly one month later. Seeking extension to Article 50 for three months - Wins by 211



Where shall we be come April 14th??  :o

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He's on another planet growing crops in preparation of a no deal Brexit.
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because it will be the only option on the table. If the EU won't grant an extension. We won't leave without a deal. I've said all along that Article 50 will be revoked at the eleventh hour. There's an outside chance May's deal will pass.

Revoking it will give them time to consider all options. It doesn't mean it is cancelled as they will invoke it again when they have found a consensus or a new referendum.

Nothing I have seen so far has made me change my mind

The same EU that refuses to give us an extension would be fine with us resetting the Article 50 clock to give ourselves 2 more years of negotiating time? I wouldn't be surprised if we were taken to the ECJ if we tried that.

Revoking will realistically mean Remaining and MPs, on the current evidence, simply won't make the decision to do it without a mandate to do so from the public.

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I'd take being on the wrong side of the snap right now, bit of light relief from this clusterfuck.

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The same EU that refuses to give us an extension would be fine with us resetting the Article 50 clock to give ourselves 2 more years of negotiating time? I wouldn't be surprised if we were taken to the ECJ if we tried that.

Revoking will realistically mean Remaining and MPs, on the current evidence, simply won't make the decision to do it without a mandate to do so from the public.

I think what it means is what I referred to earlier - taking this mess out of the hands of the politicians (or at least most of them) and setting up some kind of independent body that will truly and openly investigate all possibilities of how to negotiate the best Brexit, along with its own personal recommendations.

It would mean junking the so called "red lines" and an end to this piece meal, seat of the pants, playing it by ear negotiations that have plagued the government for the past 3 years.  It's the only way to establish a cross party consensus - handing it over to somebody that everybody has a measure of trust in, where there is no agenda other than what is in the national interest.

It can be done, but it will require political will and sacrifice in order to accomplish it.  The problem is that both sides of the house are far too self serving to go for it.  The impasse we are currently at is because they have all finally realised that Brexit as it stands will be a disaster, but nobody has the balls to call it off, or demand it be called off. 

It would mean admitting that the British Public had been sold a pup, which is basically exposing the entire British political system (I mean everyone knows it, but admitting it is something else.)
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Labour have apparently asked four frontbenchers who voted against the second referendum to resign. One (Peacock) has just done so.

Positive development, hopefully.

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I'd take being on the wrong side of the snap right now, bit of light relief from this clusterfuck.

That would be my second choice.  My first choice would be seeing the vast majority of Parliament and a certain 17 million odd people on the wrong side.
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Ian Dunt still doubts that May can get MV3 through.

I can't see how she can fail now. All her ducks are in a row, thanks to Thundercunt Thursday.

Unless we're right about the ERG etc actually NOT wanting to leave.

I need my weekly daily hourly dose of hope. Anyone?
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Labour have apparently asked four frontbenchers who voted against the second referendum to resign. One (Peacock) has just done so.

Positive development, hopefully.
Source? Because I so want to grab this lifeline
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https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/1106294920262897665

https://twitter.com/Steph_Peacock/status/1106294726007971840

Justin Madders, Stephanie Peacock, Emma Lewell-Buck and Yvonne Fovargue.

As someone on that thread says, surely these are made up names? The last sounds like a phonetic rendition of a nawtey geezer saying Farrage.
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They should force Corbyn to sack them.  Much more entertaining.
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Ian Dunt still doubts that May can get MV3 through.

I can't see how she can fail now. All her ducks are in a row, thanks to Thundercunt Thursday.

Unless we're right about the ERG etc actually NOT wanting to leave.

I need my weekly daily hourly dose of hope. Anyone?

Today didn't change anything in that regard? May will try again in the last week of March (26th?) so MV3 is likely to fail because MPs who'll have a decision to make will want to seek a consensus around their preferred option later next week. All that altered today was that there is now political cover to seek a short term extension (which would be needed even to pass the PM's deal anyway) and another expression by MPs that 'no deal' isn't what they want but they're not quite ready to take over governing the country from Parliament just yet.
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