Topic: North and South Korea Vow to End Hostilities in Historic Accord

[Lone Star Red]

This policy of threatening all sorts of stuff and showing force to ensure North Korea step back doesnt seem to be gettinh anywhere. If the USA really wants a denuclearised North Korea or at least one not as hostile as this one, maybe they could explore ways of negotiating with them?

The Chinese and Russians have suggested some steps? Can they not be explored?

You're acting like different methods of negotiation haven't been tried and tested the last decade+, under different presidents?

Have no idea why you're treating this like a simple black and white issue when it's anything but.

[classycarra]

NK doesn't produce any oil and Russia is a net exporter of oil.

Sorry yeah, got it the wrong way round. Thanks.

Same point applies though, but for the trade Russia does with NK for the products of their mining

[killer-heels]

You're acting like different methods of negotiation haven't been tried and tested the last decade+, under different presidents?

Have no idea why you're treating this like a simple black and white issue when it's anything but.

Where have I said its a simple black and white issue?

[CheshireDave]

Breaking on the BBC

North Korea fires missile from Pyongyang, media reports say, as Japan warns residents to take shelter

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41275614

[Gerry Attrick]

I worry every time I see new posts in this thread 

[Crimson_Tank]

Breaking on the BBC

North Korea fires missile from Pyongyang, media reports say, as Japan warns residents to take shelter

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41275614

Landed in the ocean.

CNN reporting it was a test.

BBC reporting that Japan's PM has asked for citizens to take shelter.

This comes after Monday Nights UN Sexurity Council vote to impose their strongest sanctions against the NK Regime.

[classycarra]

Think it's significant (i.e. a deliberate demonstration) that they have a missile that could reach Guam. I think I heard it travelled 3000km further than Guam is from Pyongyang.

[Elmo!]

Think it's significant (i.e. a deliberate demonstration) that they have a missile that could reach Guam. I think I heard it travelled 3000km further than Guam is from Pyongyang.

300km.

Missile went 3700km, it's 3400km from Pyonyang to Guam.

[classycarra]

300km.

Missile went 3700km, it's 3400km from Pyonyang to Guam.

Thanks, rogue 0 there!

3000km further and it almost reaches Seattle! And probably does reach Alaska? Important correction!

[WhereAngelsPlay]

They put a light on his bloody desk   


North Korean leader Kim Jong-un watched the launch of a Hwasong-12 missile on Friday


North Korea will reach its nuclear force goal - Kim Jong-un

[Giono]

They put a light on his bloody desk   

It's like it is the 1950s. I'm surprised there isn't an ornamental pen set on the desk as well.

[Crimson_Tank]

It's like it is the 1950s. I'm surprised there isn't an ornamental pen set on the desk as well.

It is like something out of Dr. Strangelove,

Hauntingly Terrifying and yet incredibly mystifying.

[Zeb]

Found this worth reading on how the current situation is becoming unsustainable and building towards a war. The author is a former US diplomat with expertise on North Korea and Iran, among other countries.

[Skidder.]

They put a light on his bloody desk   


North Korean leader Kim Jong-un watched the launch of a Hwasong-12 missile on Friday


North Korea will reach its nuclear force goal - Kim Jong-un

Fuck the light - why does he have a buttplug on his desk?

[TepidT2O]

Fuck the light - why does he have a buttplug on his desk?

I think you will find that they are paper weights for the four corners of a map...

Don’t judge everyone by your own standards mate

[Skidder.]

I think you will find that they are paper weights for the four corners of a map...

Don’t judge everyone by your own standards mate

Well sugar my tits splendidly - two buttplugs???

(Fancy a trip to the DMZ?)

In all seriousness - there is something very jongleur about this picture.

[Peabee]

I think you will find that they are paper weights for the four corners of a map...

Don’t judge everyone by your own standards mate

They're definitely paperweights because his buttplugs are in the shape of Trump.

[cloggypop]

They're definitely paperweights because his buttplugs are in the shape of Trump.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7796138

[Giono]

A commentator on CNN this evening made a good point about NK not wanting to give up nukes. She said that the Ukraine giving up their nukes after the USSR are an example of what happens when you give up nuke capability.

[Crimson_Tank]

Well sugar my tits splendidly - two buttplugs???

(Fancy a trip to the DMZ?)

In all seriousness - there is something very jongleur about this picture.

Four mate, the map has four corners.

[ShakaHislop]

North Korea 'hackers steal US-South Korea war plans'

Hackers from North Korea are reported to have stolen a large cache of military documents from South Korea, including a plan to assassinate North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un.

Rhee Cheol-hee, a South Korean lawmaker, said the information was from his country's defence ministry.

The compromised documents include wartime contingency plans drawn up by the US and South Korea.

They also include reports to the allies' senior commanders.

The South Korean defence ministry has so far refused to comment about the allegation.

Plans for the South's special forces were reportedly accessed, along with information on significant power plants and military facilities.

Mr Rhee said some 235 gigabytes of military documents had been stolen from the Defence Integrated Data Centre, and that 80% of them have yet to be identified.

The hack took place in September last year. In May, South Korea said a large amount of data had been stolen and that North Korea may have instigated the cyber attack - but gave no details of what was taken.

North Korea denied the claim.

South Korea's state-run Yonhap news service reports that Seoul has been subject to a barrage of cyber attacks by its communist neighbour in recent years, with many targeting government websites and facilities.

The isolated state is believed to have specially-trained hackers based overseas, including in China.

North Korea has accused South Korea of "fabricating" the claims.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41565281

[Buggy Eyes Alfredo]

Around 200 people dead after tunnels collapsed at the Punggye-ri nuclear test site.

[Brissyred]

C0ouple of friends in the military have told me shits getting real over there. Military families being sent home from SK, everyone on the highest alert. Worrying times

[Zeb]

C0ouple of friends in the military have told me shits getting real over there. Military families being sent home from SK, everyone on the highest alert. Worrying times

Is that Aussie families? See the Americans were adamant, a couple of days back, that there'll be none of their's moved - yet.

[Xabi Gerrard]

Koreas to march under single 'united' flag in Olympic Games and are also fielding a joint women's ice hockey team.

I don't get these two - do they want to get on or not?

[OneTouchFooty]

Trump seems to be getting nearly all the credit for bringing them together. Reckless but effective this time?

[Red Beret]

Trump seems to be getting nearly all the credit for bringing them together. Reckless but effective this time?

I suppose it could be a case of "how do you scare a nutjob?  With an even bigger nutjob".

As things stand, the US can utterly wipe NK out whereas NK can only damage the US.  Under previous presidents even that would have been unthinkable, but Trump honestly doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself.  Collateral damage?  South Korea pancaked and California obliterated?  Who gives a shit?  Didn't vote for him anyway...

I'll give Donald Trump this - the man knows how to bully and intimidate.

[killer-heels]

Trump seems to be getting nearly all the credit for bringing them together. Reckless but effective this time?

You mean he is giving himself the credit?

The North Koreans are probably just buying some time. They will be testing again once these games are done.

[rafathegaffa83]

Evan Rosenfeld@Evan_Rosenfeld

BREAKING: WaPo: Russian military spies hacked several hundred computers used by authorities at the 2018 Winter Olympic Games in South Korea while trying to make it appear as though the intrusion was conducted by North Korea, per US intelligence
https://t.co/qYccRjU3eO?amp=1

[Giono]

No fears. Ivanka is there to sort it.

[Red Beret]

That should piss of the North no end.

[killer-heels]

That should piss of the North no end.

Proper cold war style stuff going on.

[Red Beret]

Proper cold war style stuff going on.

When the US is run by a lunatic who wants to burn NK down to the bedrock, Russia hacking computers and trying to blame it on NK is the last think Kim needs.

[CornerFlag]

That could be a massive fuck-up by Putin et al. if Kim believes the report.  Relationships have been declining for a while though so this just serves to twist the knife more.  Or make a VX murder more likely.  One of them.

[drmick]

Surely more likely a fake story created by the Americans?

[CraigDS]

Surely more likely a fake story created by the Americans?

Yeah thought that myself. Won't be hard for the Russians to twist it that way as sure the NKs don't need much encouragement to blame the US.

[killer-heels]

From the Telegraph...


North and South Korea will hold their first summit in more than a decade in late April, the South's presidential office said on Tuesday after a senior delegation returned from a visit to the North where they met leader Kim Jong Un.

North Korea said there was no need to keep its nuclear programme as long as there was no military threat against it and the safety of its regime was secured, the head of the delegation, Chung Eui-yong, told a media briefing.

North Korea also said it was open to talking with the United States regarding denuclearisation and normalising ties, Chung added.

North Korea has also promised not to use nuclear and conventional weapons against South Korea

[rafathegaffa83]

CNBC International@CNBCi
North and South Korea reportedly set to announce official end to war https://cnb.cx/2HFcdpp

From the article

North and South Korea are in talks to announce a permanent end to the officially declared military conflict between the two countries, daily newspaper Munhwa Ilbo reported Tuesday, citing an unnamed South Korean official.

Ahead of a summit next week between North Korean premier Kim Jong Un and South Korean President Moon Jae-in, lawmakers from the neighboring states were thought to be negotiating the details of a joint statement that could outline an end to the confrontation.

Kim and Moon could also discuss returning the heavily-fortified demilitarized zone separating them to its original state, the newspaper said.

[BarryCrocker]

CNBC International@CNBCi
North and South Korea reportedly set to announce official end to war https://cnb.cx/2HFcdpp

From the article

Well that will be the Nobel Peace Prize sown up for Trump.

[killer-heels]

Well that will be the Nobel Peace Prize sown up for Trump.

He will deserve some recognition.