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RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« on: November 7, 2013, 10:49:58 pm »
Last year, RAWK had its first ever Advent Calendar, 24 articles on RAWK's Scribes' favourite players. And we think it went down a storm. So to bring in the festive season this year, we've decided to repeat the calendar except this year we present to you 24 matches in Liverpool's history that have some meaning to our Scribes and Writers.

Each day we'll put up a new match, with memories and words from the particular writer, telling us why they loved/hated/remembered that match.

We hope you enjoy this as much as you did last year's!


To start us off, I want to take RAWK back to Tueday the 3rd May 2005.


To be honest I can't really remember much about this evening. I just have a sense of occasion, and a dim memory of being at one with a sea of noise, a wall of constant persistent consistent deafening noise. Songs yes, but also just cheers, shouts, whistles. Of colour: a large patch of dark green in front below me, a dark sky above, it felt cold though I can't think why given it was May but I remember it being dark, I can't recall the early evening. Oh, except for this:

YNWA

Now I've been to a good few matches. I've been at the back of the Kop v Man Utd and heard the noise we make, I've been at the far side of the Kop and heard YNWA v Barcelona when Gary Mac tucked the penalty away, and I was at Roma when Capello hugged Houllier. But to be fair, I've never heard a noise like this. We all know John Terry works for the race relations board 's reaction in his autobiography (p.37 after the colouring in bit) where it shocked him and we know their manager who doesn't bear naming, noted it before and used it afterwards as a justification for defeat. But they've not been there every week, they've not been there to hear the noise, the racket, the din, in the 70's v St Etienne and the 80's and 90's (not so much the 90's lets be honest).

But I know arl arses and lads who were, and relatives too. And no-one pretends or nostalges (its a new verb, live with it) that they were noisier than that night in May.

I don't recall much of the match, it was an electric night, we all knew it was 0-0, winner takes all, or in Chelsea's case, draw takes all too. But I can't remember the teams coming out, the shitty drowned out Champions League 'Anthem', all that shite. I just remember a buzz. A deep electric buzz and yes a mob rule created feeling, a swell of emotion. I'm getting hairs on the back of my neck thinking about it right now.

Of course we stood. Of course we chanted at Chelsea but to be honest it wasn't a league game where we take the piss out of the visiting fans, irrespective of what they're made of, even if then it was plastic.

Because that night in my memory was about one team only. It belonged to us.

Then of course we've hardly got adjusted to the game started and this happened:

 He drinks sangria


Bedlam. Sheer madfuckingtearsandscreamsbedlam.

I genuinely believe it was a goal. I honestly utterly do. Full stop. None of this Cech would've been sent off and we'd a scored from the spot and what ifs and buts. We were in Kop 102. I don't care if I was partly responsible for breathing it in, all whatever'000's capacity the Kop is, we went absolutelyfuckingdaft.



The rest is a blur. A bag of nerves, and whistles and Didi Hamman and Cisse should've put it away to make it safe but half time came and went and there was a second half people tell me.

You see I knew I couldn't go the final if we made it. I knew that my job would've let me and my tickets were safely going to a good pair of hands. So for me, this was my final. But more than this perhaps. This was a moment that was a culmination of 15 years of nearly's and false dawns and evenings at Anfield that became themselves in history. Not an echo of a night past, a commentator's cliché, but right now, right here, we were in history in the making. We were at the ground the night we took the semi final. And knowing that was as far as I'd be going, it was poignant and important.

But more than that, Yes I'd been to European nights but none like this. I was envious of my uncle who was in the Kop when we played Milan in the 60's, I was a lad in the 70's listening to the radio to cracklefm (BBC Radio 2 at 2 mins past 8 since you ask, am wave) and watching us in '77 but never there.

And now, that feeling from kick off to way way into the night, that this was something, well perhaps that's why that match sticks out for me. I was part of a greater thing, an energy and a madness.

Meanwhile during all this pretentiousness, there was a match drawing to a close. Then it happened. Up pops a board with 6 minutes extra time. Yes 6. That's six. Not 3 as is usual in these things, or perhaps even 4, but fucking 6. Let me put as clearly as I can for you:

To this day I still expect Gudjohnsen to score.

Block 102 allows you an excellent spec of the corner flag and anyone in that channel as well as a diagonal view of the goal. People talk of time slowing down, well it did for me. I'm still surprised no-one died of a heart attack in the ground at that moment. Then it was all over. God having a laugh with us. Bill toying with us from above? Typical Liverpool, you can't totally believe its over til its over... I thought that terrority was owned by Man City, not us. Have a listen:

Fuck me breathe in breathe in he missed


(I've not used video because I want those that were there to relive it in their mind, from their perspective. And for those who weren't, to understand how emotive radio is at the best of moments in sport.)

I'm not sure I can remember the whistle going, it did obviously, but all I knew was that from a sea of statues, frozen with hands to their faces, to those who can properly deafeningly whistle encouragement to the ref to end the game, to suddenly, quite suddenly a release, an outpouring of emotion and relief and ecstacy and song and hoarse hoarse raw throated shouts to anyone who would listen.

Leaving the ground was like a bunch of kids racing on Christmas morning to the tree. It took me a week to come down and longer for my throat to heal. Even writing this makes me emotional, it was just a brilliant fucking place to be.

Important for those who look back to what we represented, old money v new money, fabric not plastic, substance not style and a real reminder to a world who thought we weren't even near a hill to climb that just occasionally Anfield still shows the world what a proper European night is.

I've linked some press reports below because the match is almost secondary to the shock of how loud and electric an atmosphere Anfield generated that night.

Welcome to the Festive Season and I hope you enjoyed Match #1 of your RAWK Advent Calendar :wave


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4501277.stm

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=63639.0

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/mama-we-re-all-famous-now?webSyncID=d3e7249a-153a-2ccb-dc51-b2b0baad5296&sessionGUID=2ac800d7-740c-7783-8384-83373352b029

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2359108/Glorious-Liverpool-a-big-noise-again.html
« Last Edit: November 30, 2013, 05:32:15 pm by Hinesy »
Yep.

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #1 on: December 1, 2013, 12:02:48 am »
Awesome

That Gudjohnsen chance.... oh my word. I still shiver now
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #2 on: December 1, 2013, 12:03:56 am »
Fwiw & I've posted this many times in threads just after that game.  I was lucky enough to get a ticket to the game and was almost adjacent to the bye line in the first row of the main stand (or what used to be called the paddock).  Was sat right behind the linesman when that goal was scored & seen the ball go over the line as he did, he raised his flag for a goal right away.  Fantastic atmosphere.

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #3 on: December 1, 2013, 12:10:13 am »
Fantastic memories, thanks! Never heard the radio commentary before, and it's great.

Now I'm going to go watch the match again, and stay up late, you git.

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #4 on: December 1, 2013, 12:37:10 am »
Wow, amazing piece of writing that. Being in the states, I didn't really clue about Liverpool besides looking out for there scores when this happened, but I really wish I did. As someone who didn't properly live through this, it's brilliant being able to read about it like this.
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #5 on: December 1, 2013, 12:58:02 am »
That Gudjohnsen chance.... oh my word.

Karma, bitch.

"I never touched him,’ Xabi said in the dressing-room afterwards.

‘Don’t worry, Xabi,’ I replied. ‘We’ll get through. We’ll beat Chelsea. We’ll sort Gudjohnsen out for you. Join us in the final.’

But Xabi was inconsolable, close to tears… We read all the allegations in the papers that Gudjohnsen told Xabi he knew he was on a booking. True or not, that fired us up even more. Chelsea were going to fucking well get it at Anfield.”
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #6 on: December 1, 2013, 12:58:49 am »
Nicely done Hinesy, very good. See my post in the feedback forum from last year regarding stuff like this. RAWK in it's finest.

Oh, kinda wished you didn't put that in the parantheses there - cause when I was reading it, I smiled to meself seeing (hearing) it was audio only :D

Well done, thank you.
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #7 on: December 1, 2013, 01:00:38 am »
Oh, kinda wished you didn't put that in the parantheses there - cause when I was reading it, I smiled to meself seeing (hearing) it was audio only :D

I knew you'd get it mate ;)

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #8 on: December 1, 2013, 01:36:38 am »
I thank nothing of this game other than to give that lad, the opportunity to pen the line..

"96 minutes for 96 souls, they surely were watching the drama unfold. For something divine intervened on our side, 'Cos I can't explain how Gudjohnsen shot wide"

Still brings a tear of joy and happiness to me and leaves me feeling hollow and empty, all in one line.

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #9 on: December 1, 2013, 01:44:33 am »
Radio City commentary and Aldo!

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #10 on: December 1, 2013, 01:45:19 am »
Well written pal. You've put pressure on the other 23 people now!

I remember that night like it was yesterday, although like yourself I too can hardly remember anything about the game. I was sat in the Upper Annie, right above their fans and I remember them starting their "We are the Champions" chant, which basically just made the whole ground start singing YNWA even louder. Those rent boy bastards can fuck off if they think for one second that they're outdoing us tonight!

I remember wondering what had happened with the goal, at first I thought it was a penalty until I saw Gerrard chasing after Garcia. "It's a goal!" My brother had clocked it straight away and we just went mental. I genuinely can't remember anything else about that game other than some nob heads running on the pitch at some stage. It was because of them that the six minutes were added on! The only other thing I recall is that ball falling to Gudjohnsen. My heart sank, next minute I see the ball hit the advertising boards. I didn't even cheer, just stood there, frozen. People around me were whistling, shouting. It was weird. I can recall a buzz, nothing really of note was being said or sung, but there was just constant noise. Then that whistle went and again we wwnt mental. I wish I had taken more of the game itself in, because I genuinely can't remember anything between the Garcia goal and the Gudjohnsen miss. I remember that night though. Never forget that!

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #11 on: December 1, 2013, 02:10:28 am »
Great read, transmits the emotion of the occasion. For me it was the night Liverpool became my only team. Before that game I liked both teams(shocking to think that now) and thought I was going to be neutral for the game but as soon as the drama unfolded in the beginning it was only Liverpool in my mind, has been so ever since. So a sentimental game for me.
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« Reply #12 on: December 1, 2013, 02:18:41 am »
Well that was a great read. Thanks :)
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« Reply #13 on: December 1, 2013, 04:37:36 am »
Like many, I remember so little of the game, but I will remember the atmosphere and the importance of the occasion for the rest of my life.

What a feeling of joy when the game was finally over!
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #14 on: December 1, 2013, 05:57:13 am »
I was abit too young to fully remember this and appreciate it, but still to this day my dad says how he nearly genuinly felt a heart attack coming on after that Gudjohnsen chance, then again, i don't think i could go through a game like this again.

Truly brilliant, and the atmosphere at the end was the loudest i have ever heard a football stadium, EVER.
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #15 on: December 1, 2013, 06:06:25 am »
Awesome

That Gudjohnsen chance.... oh my word. I still shiver now

Don't say it out loud :(

I still get shivers.

Edit: just read the rest  :wave jesus christ!

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« Reply #16 on: December 1, 2013, 06:38:50 am »
I will fill this properly, in a couple of days :wave
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #17 on: December 1, 2013, 07:18:09 am »
Seeing Chopper quote brings tears to my eyes. In April that season, cos I was at Anfield for the match closest to 15th I left the scarf I wore to Hillsborough at the memorial.
For some reason I think it helped :-),
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« Reply #18 on: December 1, 2013, 08:09:00 am »
Brilliant Hinesy! We all have our memories of this one I'm sure. I watched it in a pub in west London with my brother outnumbered about 50 to 1. We were just in our own little bubble though, just didn't know what to do at the end, such a mix of emotions swirling around!

My Dad was on the Kop and said it was easily comparable to the likes of St Etienne. I think all those years of waiting built up something so strong that we just coukdnt be denied. Brilliant!

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #19 on: December 1, 2013, 08:45:14 am »
Brilliant that. Thanks. Really brought that night back.
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #20 on: December 1, 2013, 09:08:59 am »
thats a brilliant piece mate but fuckin hell no matter how many times i watch that game i still expect Gudjohnsen to score

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« Reply #21 on: December 1, 2013, 09:46:54 am »
Brilliant Hinesy, the entire post invoked an a horrible nervousness that had been tucked away in my mind for all those years.

How do we cope with games like that.

Thanks for putting that together.

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« Reply #22 on: December 1, 2013, 09:52:28 am »
Wonderful!

I think all I can remember of the match was the YNWA at the start and the miss in the last minute.....

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« Reply #23 on: December 1, 2013, 10:34:14 am »
That is an excellent start to December, a great first read before breakfast on the morning we go Tiger hunting. Could not agree more, the radio clip has all the atmosphere and has you engaging all the more to imagine what you cannot see. Thanks very much.
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #24 on: December 1, 2013, 10:56:20 am »
Lovely piece of writing.

Jockey writing in The Telegraph agreed with you on not 'nostalgesising':
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« Reply #25 on: December 1, 2013, 12:07:21 pm »
Superb. It's like I've just started a Quality Street advent calendar and uncovered a coffee cream.

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« Reply #26 on: December 1, 2013, 04:47:51 pm »
thats a brilliant piece mate but fuckin hell no matter how many times i watch that game i still expect Gudjohnsen to score

This, even listening to that radio clip made my stomach turn over.

Great piece of writing, looking forward to these advent posts more than my chocolate advent calendar now!
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« Reply #27 on: December 1, 2013, 04:49:04 pm »
Superb. It's like I've just started a Quality Street advent calendar and uncovered a coffee cream.

It wasn't that bad James.

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #28 on: December 1, 2013, 06:01:05 pm »
It wasn't that bad James.
;D

For the avoidance of doubt hinesy, coffee creams are my favourites.

I remember being more nervous during this game than any game ever. Even more than extra time in Istanbul.

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« Reply #29 on: December 1, 2013, 06:41:29 pm »
;D

For the avoidance of doubt hinesy, coffee creams are my favourites.

I remember being more nervous during this game than any game ever. Even more than extra time in Istanbul.


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« Reply #30 on: December 1, 2013, 06:47:41 pm »
Excellent piece mate.

I was sat in the UC, so had no grasp of how close the Gudjohnson shot went, but the crowd down that end went 'quiet' for what seemed like 5 minutes, then everyone seemed to exhale and we knew the job was done :).
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« Reply #31 on: December 1, 2013, 08:40:04 pm »
Fantastic memories, thanks! Never heard the radio commentary before, and it's great.

Now I'm going to go watch the match again, and stay up late, you git.

:D


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« Reply #32 on: December 1, 2013, 09:38:11 pm »
That's a great read, 57sy and the radio clip was magic.

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #33 on: December 1, 2013, 11:26:48 pm »
Cheers mate. Number 2 on the way!
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #34 on: December 2, 2013, 12:19:38 am »
Was sat in the Kop with my Dad, couldn't believe the whole evening, the roar when we came out to warm up was louder than anything heard in the last few seasons. Great times, the Champions League is why this season is so important right now, Liverpool belong there.

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #35 on: December 2, 2013, 01:37:03 am »
Thanks for this, was a good read, memories eh :)

Was not at anfield, but there was a buzz, definently a buzz that I hadn't felt well since well olympiakos or that Fulham game ... Suddenly I wasn't hoping for a win but feeling the beginnings of real expectation of getting a result. Put simply we looked like we could compete more consistently at a higher level. However, these were roots for what was to come until 2009ish...

I remember feeling that night, you are at our home and you will not leave unscathed... On an emotional level mind! , it's so difficult to put into words but it was akin to the all blacks Hakka, gandalf's you will not pass, 300's this is Sparta, it was an an adulterated massive fuck you to mourinho and Chelsea and abromavichs millions... That game summed up I believe the transformation from underdog, to we might not have the money, but we actually know how we can get a result against you... Not always mind as to be fair we lost and drew more often , what can you say they were a ruddy good side regardless of emotional feelings  ... But that didn't matter and doesn't matter, this game blew my head off ... Well that's what I believed until the cl Final ... Lol now that was something else.

Oh and my hatred for mourinho also coloured the game, wot a prick.

And I swear I have managed to remove all emotion associated with the gudjohnson miss... That's all it was, a miss :)

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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #36 on: December 2, 2013, 11:30:16 am »
I still remember being bear hugged by a complete stranger  ;D

Great write up Hinesy.
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2013, 03:33:23 pm »
only getting to this now

what a start to the advent calender
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2013, 09:42:05 pm »
Fantastic! I loved the radio bits... I got goosebumps again. Amazing night
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Re: RAWK Advent Calendar #1. Matches with meaning: LFC v CFC. 2005.
« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2013, 12:04:42 am »
Bump for Christmas
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