Topic: Hillsborough trial collapses

[Trendisnotdestiny]

Seething...   

System protects its own - so sickening.

With Commie Bobby on this - take the fight into spaces that make the comfort of this decision, become intolerably uncomfortable.

[Commie Bobbie]

You’re right. With Goldberg - best to start by reporting his comments today to the Bar Standards Board. Wrote a lengthy one myself earlier. Although they don’t listen to people like us.

I must admit I've emailed him directly. Absolutely furious. We can't let that go.

Edit:

Just got this back:

Dear Sir
I regret you were not listening properly.
I was merely explaining the case the police wished to advance in 1989.
Not approving it.
Sincerely

Going to send something to the Bar Standards Board. We may need to decipher that word for word - because I get the impression he's a bit of a bastard.

[Ziltoid]

Just had a teams call with a work colleague, she's a scouser and she asked how I was in general and i said shite because of this.  Her husband was crushed against the barriers and I never knew, we were both a little upset to say the least.  Affects so, so many people!

Pity any c*nt that rubs me up the wrong way the rest of the day

[liverbloke]

the law is not an ass - it's an arsehole that has been rogered violently by perverted oxbridge schoolboys to keep the classes in their place

the old school tie network tightens the bonds around those within its own circles but also binds the hands of those seeking true justice

[thaddeus]

Well in Margaret and Andy Burnham.  As 24*7 said earlier, the gloves are off and rightly so.

[rob1966]

Sickened.

[Big Bamber]

That certainly seems to be the case for non- statutory inquiries. I am in no way close to these issues (so apologies) but if it hasn’t been done already, it would be worth investigating the decision to make the Taylor inquiry non-statutory, a decision that is having massive repercussions today.

On this, the BBC report says that "[Taylor] was under pressure to quickly come up with safety recommendations for football grounds before the start of the new season."

I can see why a non-statutory inquiry would be quicker (i.e. no legislation needed) where the purpose was to come up with safety recommendations, but would also be ineffective in revealing what really happened and who was responsible and guilty. Could the call for speed to come up with safety recommendations have been a cover to avoid a statutory inquiry? 

See here: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57257199

[Lfc19ynwa]

Absolutely scandalous decision

[Morgana]

A lot of shit's happened over the last 3 years that just comes down to having a Tory government in power. Their corruption (and the allowance of it) has seeped into every fabric of society. Truly sad.

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Some fucking country this.

[Trada]

David Conn
@david_conn

Astonishing, narrative being spread even today, by South Yorkshire police ex-solicitor's QC, of a "riot" by Liverpool supporters at Hillsborough.

The inquests jury concluded in 2016, after the longest case ever, that no misbehaviour by Liverpool fans contributed to the disaster.

[disgraced cake]

Disgusted..Yes
Surprised..No

[RainbowFlick]

sickened but unsurprised. with the backdrop of the Cummings interview today, this verdict serves as another reminder that those in power are able to shirk responsibility and accountability.

JFT96.

[redgriffin73]

I must admit I've emailed him directly. Absolutely furious. We can't let that go.

Edit:

Just got this back:

Going to send something to the Bar Standards Board. We may need to decipher that word for word - because I get the impression he's a bit of a bastard.

What an absolute arrogant c*nt.

[andrewd3]

 https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/r-v-metcalf-denton-foster/   

The Judgement in full.    

[Mighty_Red]

Wankers, the lot of them!

Seriously, 96 unlawfully killed but no persons or organisations have been brought to justice? Scum.

[Thepooloflife]

I must admit I've emailed him directly. Absolutely furious. We can't let that go.

Edit:

Just got this back:

Going to send something to the Bar Standards Board. We may need to decipher that word for word - because I get the impression he's a bit of a bastard.

I emailed him too - no reply yet though. Mind you I did call him a prick and a bellend......maybe that's why.

I also complained to the BBC for that appalling interview Chiles had with the fella on 5live - but, when I submitted it said 'there's been a problem with your complaint, try again later...'   

[Circa1892]

I must admit I've emailed him directly. Absolutely furious. We can't let that go.

Edit:

Just got this back:

Going to send something to the Bar Standards Board. We may need to decipher that word for word - because I get the impression he's a bit of a bastard.

The fucking arrogance of that reply

[Commie Bobbie]

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I emailed him too - no reply yet though. Mind you I did call him a prick and a bellend......maybe that's why.

I also complained to the BBC for that appalling interview Chiles had with the fella on 5live - but, when I submitted it said 'there's been a problem with your complaint, try again later...'   

It looks several drafts - some of which could have landed me in a whole world of bother!

I think in the short to medium term it may be an idea to get some contacts (perhaps Jim has already done this) with people supporting the Grenfell families and those who are going to be at the forefront of the Covid inquiry - we cannot allow this to happen again and for families to wait decades for something (a £6,500 fine for an faceless employee of a football club - yeah fuck off) - and if that means taking affirmative action to prevent further cover ups by the bastard establishment - then that is what is going to need to happen - because it is abundantly clear to me that the criminal justice system just isn't it.

The fucking arrogance of that reply

I had a good cry - reading that. Just pure anger and frustration - so heaven knows what the families and friends of the 96 - as well as the survivors are feeling right now.

I think I've disclosed my own issues with the law in the past which failed me, I think I've always believed that such miscarriages of justice just couldn't happen in this day and age with social media and the general way that people are (in the main) more informed on issues such as these - that they ever were allowed to be in the 80s and 90s - even as far back as a decade or so.

This is a new template for the bastards to use.

[Bobinhood]

No legal duty of candor by police at a public inquiry.



What the hell is the basis for the rule of law then? Why the hell should somebody have to write that down in a book of statutes?

That's the most finely whittled legal bullshit since  "Depends what the definition of is, is".

The bald faced-ness of that is simply stunning. 

[cashmere pringle]

did anyone listen to the press conference form Anfield ? Andy Burnham was fantastic. He should be leading the opposition. A politician who actually cares.

the barrister for the defence though. Heard his interview in radio 5, felt like we were in a time warp and back in 80s. Unbelievable this shite is still aired.

[SMASHerano]

This is pathetic. My blood is boiling just reading about this. My thoughts are with the families who have to live with this injustice.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

So the altering of police statements wasn't done to pervert the course of justice.



Not worth adding anything,I just hope everyone can limit the anger and hurt that it causes.

[Indomitable_Carp]

That is a grim judgement. Wrong on so many levels.

[BoRed]

did anyone listen to the press conference form Anfield ? Andy Burnham was fantastic.

Is there a video or transcript available anywhere?

Edit: found the coverage on the echo website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/live-hillsborough-denton-foster-metcalf-20679653

[RAWK Meltdown #1]

If "that's that" then it's game on once we're back on the terraces I guess!!

We're a strong voice and I'm sure we'll think of one or two things to keep the flames lit under this.

[redbyrdz]

Not surprised.

[naYoRHa2b]

Shocked and disgusted when I heard that on the radio in work earlier. Was with a colleague who was there that day and was absolutely broken by that verdict. Thoughts with him and those deeply effected by such a decision.. Hope there is something that can be done, even if it's in the stands to shine a light on how broken and corrupt the legal system is.

[TSC]

Shocking yet unsurprisingly a whitewash.

[Medellin]

The more it sinks in the more the blood boils..shower of dirty stinking despicable bastards.

[number 168]

I have sent my complaint to the BBC about Adrian Chiles allowing the Goldberg twat to lie without being challenged and the record put straight. I hope the Bar Council intervenes as how can we expect any justice when QCs can go on national radio and openly lie?

[Jon2lfc]

If "that's that" then it's game on once we're back on the terraces I guess!!

We're a strong voice and I'm sure we'll think of one or two things to keep the flames lit under this.

This.

[Jm55]

‘Cock up, not conspiracy’ according to Goldenberg.

So what, did the coppers accidentally doctor their statements to remove criticism of the SYP?

Fucking unbelievable that this shite is still being peddled.

[Slippers]

He was entitled to lie.
There you see the criminal cover up in one sentence.

Yes,'no legal duty to tell the whole truth' just about sums it up.

[rossipersempre]

Took them 30 years to exonerate the innocent and less than 2 to refuse to implicate the guilty.

[Broad Spectrum]

'A cover-up over a cover-up' is how Margaret Aspinall described it. And Andy Burnham accused of 'whipping up' the families of Hillsborough victims over the years by the ruling QC, what an absolute c*nt of a person.

Well I hope this finally results in the Hillsborough Law being agreed and ratified as first proposed by Burnham years ago.

[Circa1892]

Be interesting to see who benefits from the precedent Davis has set today. From this, feels like public officials can lie in the Grenfel/Covid enquiries and not commit a crime. Sickening the whole thing.

[Snail]

Good statement that.

As for what to say about all this... words fail me to be honest. I wish I could say I was surprised, but I'm not. My heart goes out to all of the families and friends of the 96, and I hope that one day there'll be a reckoning for those responsible, whether it's in this life or the next.

[B0151?]

'A cover-up over a cover-up' is how Margaret Aspinall described it. And Andy Burnham accused of 'whipping up' the families of Hillsborough victims over the years by the ruling QC, what an absolute c*nt of a person.

Well I hope this finally results in the Hillsborough Law being agreed and ratified as first proposed by Burnham years ago.

Outrageous that considering he only got spurred into action when Anfield told him en masse what they thought of his governments non-action. Respect to what he's done since but this is a fight that has been lead by the families and the victims and their justice seeking brothers and sisters everywhere.

[hansen6]

Did the CPS throw this on purpose?