Topic: What was the greater achievement?

[TepidT2O]

Greatest by a player?

Peter crouch’s ability to attract his wife.

[Barneylfc∗]

Greatest by a player?

Peter crouch’s ability to attract his wife.

I wonder what attracted her to the multi-millionaire

[Cu Chulainn]

Funny thing is, Chelsea were almost Invincibles in 2004-05. They lost once that season, to Man City. That probably still pisses Mourinho off. 

[Crosby Nick]

Agreed.

The best ever achievements in football (IMHO)

1. Notts Forest League winners 78, European Cup winners 79 and 80 (Jesus that is truly unbelievable)

2. Celtic's Quadreble 1967

3. Leicester winning the Prem

4. Denmark winning the 92 Euros



Best ever achievement by a player

1. Samuel Eto'o back to back Trebles with Barca and Inter 

Denmark winning when they hadn’t even qualified is a great story but don’t think it’s up there.

They drew 0-0 with a shit England, lost to Sweden and beat France 2-1 late in to sneak into the Semis. They then beat Netherlands on penalties. Beating Germany was decent to be fair!

[Barneylfc∗]

If Denmark is being thrown in then Greece have to be also. Denmark had a few decent players in their squad. Schmeichel, John Jensen, Torben Piechnik. Couldn't name a Greek with any confidence that he was in that squad.

[Crosby Nick]

If Denmark is being thrown in then Greece have to be also.

Urgh what a bunch of killjoys they were! Beating Portugal was obviously hilarious but I was gutted that Czech team didn’t win it.

[Lotus Eater]

And what. Exams of the German manager of Greece?

[Coolie High]

Arsenal every time

[idontknow]

Our 87/88 team was one of the greatest in our history but we went to shite once the League was won. Pretty sure we did similar in the early 80s too.

Arsenal had the League won from a long way out but stayed focussed enough to stay unbeaten.

Admittedly could make a similar case for City stying focussed to get 100 points but I agree with you, one defeat and it’s all over.

82-83, won it with about 6 games to go, and I think lost 5 of the last 6. Otherwise we would have got a points record. And we were beautiful at times that season, it was 87-88 5 years earlier, sublime.

Greatest achievement I would say of the 3 in the OP, definitely Arsenal, a great team to watch, a scary team to anticipate playing, Bergkamp was a magician.

Best of all-time, apart from Shankly lifting us out Division 2, was Nottingham Forest, they worked hard, played football, fought, and would have won far more if it hadn't been for us. The season we got 68 points I think they ended up with 60, and were never close to us.

Huddersfield got 3 in a row in the 1920s, that ought to be considered as a bit special.

But can we all laugh at Leeds and how often they came 2nd? Fancy having Norman Hunter as your bridesmaid 6 times.

[Miltonred]

Greatest by a player?

Peter crouch’s ability to attract his wife.

When asked in an interview what he would have been if he hadn't ended up being a footballer, Crouch responded "A virgin!".

True story. Funny bloke is Crouchy.

[Miltonred]

Unbeaten, for me.

But its close. What City achieved points wise last year was incredible. And frankly Chelsea only conceding 15, incredible.
Probably comes down to which team you can stomach the most.

That said, leaving out United's 99 team winning the treble is a bit tough. Think about what Jurgen just did in the FA Cup to try and give us an advantage in the league. Winning all three is a fucking incredible achievement.

[Max_powers]

I think City's achievement is clearly tainted since they clearly were cheating. They blatantly broke the FFP rules that other clubs had to follow. To me, it's not much different than using performance-enhancing drugs. Not many would count Lance Armstrong as the greatest athlete of our time, so why should City's achievements matter?

I like their team and style of play, however.

Chelsea also did something similar but at least at that time, there were no FFP rules. Still rank Arsenal's achievement higher. They had 4-5 all-time greats all playing at their prime. 

[paulrazor]

Our 87/88 team was one of the greatest in our history but we went to shite once the League was won. Pretty sure we did similar in the early 80s too.

Arsenal had the League won from a long way out but stayed focussed enough to stay unbeaten.

Admittedly could make a similar case for City stying focussed to get 100 points but I agree with you, one defeat and it’s all over.

few bad ends to seasons alright

1982-3 won the league by 11 points yet lost 5 and drew two of our last 7

1983-4 we won 2 of our last 8. 80 points was a low total over 42 games. probably competing on three fronts took a lot out of us. 67 games that season i think?

i was reading tony evans book and he said our squad got us over the line, united finished 6 points behind and even though they were 4th they were arguably our biggest challengers. every time we slipped up so did they.

[paulrazor]

And what. Exams of the German manager of Greece?

otto rehaggel? spelling is off, pronounced ray-ha-gill

greece was some achievement. cant remember much of their team, Nikopolidis in goal? think he was the olympiakos keeper when Gerrard scored in a 3-1 win.

Trainos Dellas was centre back, absolute rock. Zagorakis and Giannakopolos in midfield? they were in the premier league for a while.

Charisteas upfront scored the winner in the final

Denmark winning when they hadn’t even qualified is a great story but don’t think it’s up there.

They drew 0-0 with a shit England, lost to Sweden and beat France 2-1 late in to sneak into the Semis. They then beat Netherlands on penalties. Beating Germany was decent to be fair!

Denmark got drawn in Ireland group to qualify for world cup 94 and Ireland just about squeezed them out. apparently Jack Charlton sent his assistant Maurice Setters to watch Denmark, Setters came back with a video and a note on top that was supposed to be a match report. the report simply read
"they are crap"

huge row between the two until Jack watched the video and agreed

[redan]

It's all about context isn't it?

Winning the Premier League is a great accomplishment in itself but Leicester winning it is truly remarkable and will go down as one of the greatest sporting achievements ever

Getting 100 points is truly outstanding but with all the money Man City have, it slightly dilutes the achievement for me. Similarly with the £150m+ Chelsea were spending around 04-06 when other teams were around £15-20m per window max. Therefore it has to be Arsenal for me.

If it was an even playing field i'd say the 100 points

[rafathegaffa83]

Arsenal's is the greater achievement of the three posited in the OP. They also reached the semis of the League Cup and FA Cup (in both cases they lost to the eventual winner) that seaaon as well as the quarter final of the CL.

Urgh what a bunch of killjoys they were! Beating Portugal was obviously hilarious but I was gutted that Czech team didn’t win it.

Yep that Czech should have won

[paulrazor]

Arsenal's is the greater achievement of the three posited in the OP. They also reached the semis of the League Cup and FA Cup (in both cases they lost to the eventual winner) that seaaon as well as the quarter final of the CL.

Yep that Czech should have won

had a bet on them. think nedved was suspended for the semi final which hurt them

[LallanaInPyjamas]

Arsenal's is the greater achievement of the three posited in the OP. They also reached the semis of the League Cup and FA Cup (in both cases they lost to the eventual winner) that seaaon as well as the quarter final of the CL.

City won the League Cup and also got to the CL QF's.

If we're taking all competitions into consideration then the greatest achievement is clearly United in 99, followed by us in 01.

[Crosby Nick]

had a bet on them. think nedved was suspended for the semi final which hurt them

Was it a Silver goal rather than a Golden one? Think it meant they had the rest of the first half of extra time to equalise but that equates to about one minute. Might just have completely made that up!

[paulrazor]

Was it a Silver goal rather than a Golden one? Think it meant they had the rest of the first half of extra time to equalise but that equates to about one minute. Might just have completely made that up!

no you are right. think they scored in 105th min so there was pretty much no time to equalize

[blacksun]

no you are right. think they scored in 105th min so there was pretty much no time to equalize

Wasn't that the only time that stupid rule was ever used?

[_00_deathscar]

as well as runner up in the community shield.

Is that an achievement?

[paulrazor]

Wasn't that the only time that stupid rule was ever used?

in internationals yes

ajax i think got one in europe.

it was a bit silly as it only had a 15 min window

[-Willo-]

Just think how insane our defence has been this year... And just think if it were to match Chelsea's record, we'd need to concede only 5 in the next 16 games to MATCH it.

Surprised there's not many agreeing with me here in fairness.

[Wingman]

Of the choices, Arsenal gets it for me. Them and Preston (in a very small league) are the only ones to achieve it in England. They may have drawn a lot that season, but no-one could beat them.

Chelseas 15 in a season isn't the record, (0.39 per game) as in 78-79 we only conceded 16 over a 42 game season (0.38), so we still hold it.

100pts is a great amount to record, but they've just lashed money at the team, so I have no respect for what they do. We still twatted them 3 times last season too. I know the home game finished 4-3, but it could easily have been 5 or 6 we scored.

But anything before 1992 doesn’t count. Alan Shearer is the bestest goal scorer ever, Rush never existed. Liverpool have never won the league etc

[PhaseOfPlay]

But anything before 1992 doesn’t count. Alan Shearer is the bestest goal scorer ever, Rush never existed. Liverpool have never won the league etc

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[rob1966]

Just think how insane our defence has been this year... And just think if it were to match Chelsea's record, we'd need to concede only 5 in the next 16 games to MATCH it.

Surprised there's not many agreeing with me here in fairness.

Ours in 1978/79 was better, only 16 in 42 games.

But anything before 1992 doesn’t count. Alan Shearer is the bestest goal scorer ever, Rush never existed. Liverpool have never won the league etc

Sorry, my mistake - it's the old age, makes me forget that footy didn't start until I was 25.