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Re: "Once in a lifetime" comet due in December.
« Reply #80 on: December 2, 2013, 04:23:47 pm »
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It's not looking good folks.

Hope is fading that Comet ISON survived it's fiery encounter with Sun last Thursday.

Initially Nasa had suggested at least a chunk of the 2KM-wide comet could be seen coming out the other side...

Karl Battams, a comet scientist for the Naval Research Laboratory, told CNN:

"It now looks like some chunk of ISON's nucleus has indeed made it through the solar corona, and re-emerged. It's throwing off dust and (probably) gas, but we don't know how long it can sustain that."

By Sunday however hope had given way to growing despair as whatever was left appeared dimmed.

As yet there's no definitive opinion either way - but let's not give up on it just yet.

The comet was discovered last year by two amateur astronomers using Russia's International Scientific Optical Network (Ison).

It was born in the Oort cloud, a shell of scattered icy objects right at the outermost edge of the Solar System. The cloud is nearly a light year from the sun, a quarter of the distance to our nearest neighbouring star, Proxima Centauri.

Sometimes a comet is nudged out of the cloud by the gravitational tug of a passing star, and sent on a journey taking millions of years that eventually brings it into the inner Solar System.

Computer models show that Ison is one such comet. However, it is unusual in being a first-time visitor and also in a sun-grazing orbit.
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Re: "Once in a lifetime" comet due in December.
« Reply #81 on: December 2, 2013, 04:48:09 pm »
http://www.isoncampaign.org/karl/in-memoriam
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In Memoriam
Submitted by Karl Battams on Mon, 12/02/2013 - 08:32
Comet C/2012 S1 (ISON)
Born 4.5 Billion BC, Fragmented Nov 28, 2013 (age 4.5-billion yrs old)

Born in a dusty and turbulent environment, comet ISON spent its early years being jostled and struck by siblings both large and small. Surviving a particularly violent first few million years, ISON retreated to the Oort Cloud, where it maintained a largely reclusive existence for nearly four billion years. But around 3-million B.C., a chance encounter with a passing star coerced ISON into undertaking a pioneering career as a Sungrazer. On September 21, 2012, ISON made itself known to us, and allowed us to catalog the most extraordinary part of its spectacular vocational calling.

Never one to follow convention, ISON lived a dynamic and unpredictable life, alternating between periods of quiet reflection and violent outburst. However, its toughened exterior belied a complex and delicate inner working that only now we are just beginning to understand. In late 2013, Comet ISON demonstrated not only its true beauty but a surprising turn of speed as it reached its career defining moment in the inner solar system. Tragically, on November 28, 2013, ISON's tenacious ambition outweighed its ability, and our shining green candle in the solar wind began to burn out.

Survived by approximately several trillion siblings, Comet ISON leaves behind an unprecedented legacy for astronomers, and the eternal gratitude of an enthralled global audience. In ISON's memory, donations are encouraged to your local astronomy club, observatory or charity that supports STEM and science outreach programs for children.
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Re: "Damp squib" comet is huge disappointment
« Reply #82 on: December 2, 2013, 05:11:00 pm »
Fuck off the sun, you fiery, comet-murdering twat.

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Re: "Damp squib" comet is huge disappointment
« Reply #83 on: December 2, 2013, 05:19:54 pm »
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Re: "Damp squib" comet is huge disappointment
« Reply #84 on: December 2, 2013, 10:23:28 pm »
A poor mans Hale-Bopp.
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Re: "Damp squib" comet is huge disappointment
« Reply #85 on: December 2, 2013, 10:29:51 pm »
Read the title as Damp Squid. :sad
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Re: "Damp squib" comet is huge disappointment
« Reply #86 on: December 2, 2013, 10:30:45 pm »
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Re: "Damp squib" comet is huge disappointment
« Reply #87 on: December 5, 2013, 05:10:29 pm »
What happened to comet ISON?

Astronomers have long known that some comets like it hot. Several of the greatest comets in history have flown close to the sun, puffing themselves up with solar heat, before they became naked-eye wonders in the night sky.

Some comets like it hot, but Comet ISON was not one of them.

The much-anticipated flyby of the sun by Comet ISON on Thanksgiving Day 2013 is over, and instead of becoming a Great Comet…

"Comet ISON fell apart," reports Karl Battams of NASA's Comet ISON Observing Campaign. "The fading remains are now invisible to the human eye."

At first glance this might seem like a negative result, but Battams says "rather than mourn what we have lost, we should perhaps rejoice in what we have gained—some of the finest data in the history of cometary astronomy."

On the morning of Nov. 28th, expectations were high as ISON neared perihelion, or closest approach to the sun. The icy comet already had a riotous tail 20 times wider than the full Moon and a head bright enough to see in the pre-dawn eye with the unaided eye. A dose of solar heat could transform this good comet into a great one.

During the flyby, more than 32,000 people joined Battams and other solar scientists on a Google+ Hangout. Together they watched live images from a fleet of solar observatories including the twin STEREO probes, the Solar Dynamics Observatory, and SOHO. As Comet ISON approached the sun it brightened and faded again.

"That might have been the disintegration event," says Matthew Knight of NASA's Comet ISON Observing Campaign.

Cameras onboard the Solar Dynamics Observatory followed the comet all the way down to perihelion and saw … nothing.

"We weren't sure what was happening," recalls Knight. "It was such a roller coaster of emotions."

The researchers were surprised again when a fan-shaped cloud emerged from the sun's atmosphere. No one knows for sure what was inside. Possibilities include a remnant nucleus, too small for SDO to detect, or a "rubble pile" of furiously vaporizing fragments. By the end of the day, Comet ISON was nothing but a cloud of dust.

"It's disappointing that we didn't get a spectacular naked eye comet," says Knight, "but in other ways I think Comet ISON was a huge success. The way people connected with Comet ISON via social media was phenomenal; our Comet ISON Observing Campaign website earned well over a million hits; and I had trouble downloading images near perihelion because NASA's servers were swamped."

"So maybe ISON was the 'Comet of the New Century,'" he says.

Battams agrees: "The comet may be dead, but the observing campaign was incredibly successful." Since its discovery in Sept. 2012, Comet ISON has been observed by an armada of spacecraft, studied at wavelengths across the electromagnetic spectrum, and photographed by thousands of telescopes on Earth. For months at a time, uninterrupted, someone or some spacecraft had eyes on the comet as it fell from beyond the orbit of Jupiter to the doorstep of the sun itself. Nothing was missed.

The two astronomers hope that the wealth of data will eventually allow them and their colleagues to unravel the mystery of exactly what happened to Comet ISON.

"This has unquestionably been the most extraordinary comet that Matthew and I, and likely many others, have ever witnessed," says Battams. "The universe is an amazing place and it has just amazed us again."


http://phys.org/news/2013-12-comet-ison.html


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Re: "Damp squib" comet is huge disappointment
« Reply #88 on: December 5, 2013, 11:46:31 pm »
Never mind Barney, it could be worse, we could have waited 23 years for it ....

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Re: "Damp squib" comet is huge disappointment
« Reply #89 on: December 6, 2013, 04:10:27 pm »
Halley's due again in 45 years...
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Re: "Damp squib" comet is huge disappointment
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