Topic: Premier League Fixtures 14th - 16th January

[The North Bank]

Why isnt there a super sunday game on, I dont pay sky to watch them chat about football. I think ill send an email, want a refund.

[Fromola]

Var the enemy of common sense once more

Got to change it

Obviously there's a person behind the screen (who often makes the wrong call still), but that's the point/problem with video technology, it's literal, there's no common sense applied.

[oojason]

West Ham 0 - [1] Leeds; Jack Harrison 10' - https://mixture.gg/v/61e427deb41b2

West Ham [1] - 1 Leeds; Jarrod Bowen 34' - https://mixture.gg/v/61e42d103c709

West Ham 1 - [2] Leeds; Jack Harrison 38' - https://mixture.gg/v/61e42dde03dcd

West Ham [2] - 2 Leeds; Pablo Fornals 52' - https://mixture.gg/v/61e435b16dd20

West Ham 2 - [3] Leeds; Jack Harrison hat-trick 60' - https://mixture.gg/v/61e437b9e3f01 & https://juststream.live/GotInterrogatingLaird

West Ham 2 - 3 Leeds United; Bowen miss 94' - https://streamja.com/1O5GP

[Fromola]

City have killed this league. How can you be on 45 points from 21 games and effectively be out the title race?

[Hedley Lamarr]

Why isnt there a super sunday game on, I dont pay sky to watch them chat about football. I think ill send an email, want a refund.

Wouldn’t of been that ‘super’ anyway watching two teams that are the epitome of ordinary.

[rushyman]

Obviously there's a person behind the screen (who often makes the wrong call still), but that's the point/problem with video technology, it's literal, there's no common sense applied.

I know

what I mean is if they’re going to apply so literally then surely they have to amend a few things to be common sense

In the example of the 4th league goal you could put in a clause that it’s up to the refees integrity wether it was going to be a goal or not

That was clearly a well worked goal and nothing wrong with it

[scatman]

it hit his arm and he was offside, how isn't that wrong? It's not the referees fault that Rodrigo had his arms out shouting at a team mate for not passing to him. It was a foul by the laws of the game. If you want 'common sense' then might as well be no laws.

[rushyman]

it hit his arm and he was offside, how isn't that wrong? It's not the referees fault that Rodrigo had his arms out shouting at a team mate for not passing to him. It was a foul by the laws of the game. If you want 'common sense' then might as well be no laws.

Mate it was going in anyway is the point. He’s literally on the line and over it

That would’ve been a goal in the last 150 years of football

[Barneylfc∗]

Na that was rightly ruled out. He's blatantly offside and the ball hits him last.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I'd take Coutinho back in a heartbeat just because the thought of it pisses off someone that claims to be a grown adult.

Get fucked you tit

[Dave McCoy]

Really terrible result for West Ham.  Always like the thought of some movement in the top 6 and recently that has been the case with Leicester, Wolves, and West Ham performing at times to an almost CL level.  Looks like that's not going to happen this year so just need to hope ManU gets Europa or worse I guess as a consolation.

[Barneylfc∗]

Get fucked you tit

Fair bit of abuse you're dishing out lately. Everything OK? All that anger isn't good for your health.

[afc tukrish]

Fair bit of abuse you're dishing out lately. Everything OK? All that anger isn't good for your health.

Something was lost in translation...

[scatman]

Mate it was going in anyway is the point. He’s literally on the line and over it

That would’ve been a goal in the last 150 years of football

It deffo wouldn’t have. There’s been goals ruled out many times for someone touching the ball on the line. This isn’t the first time it’s happened. Offside has always been offside since it’s been added to the laws and he was offside.

I mean there’s even that piss take goal that Nani tried to steal off Ronaldo that got disallowed. That was years ago!

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Fair bit of abuse you're dishing out lately. Everything OK? All that anger isn't good for your health.

Apologies. Had just got back from the match and you wanted a rise out of me and got one.

I had come back pretty happy and was delighted with the way the boys and the management had analysed and dealt with the Arsenal draw.

Our change of pace and change of strategy was wonderful to see and yet you're on here trying (and succeeding) to wind me up..

[El Lobo]

He's got a habit of that Andy, but you're still talking absolute drivel about Coutinho

[Andy @ Allerton!]

He's got a habit of that Andy, but you're still talking absolute drivel about Coutinho

Probably guilty of that, but I just have to look at who we signed with the money to not regret him going

[El Lobo]

Probably guilty of that, but I just have to look at who we signed with the money to not regret him going

Oh yeah no doubt, and we absolutely robbed Barca regardless. If we'd accepted the initial offer of £90 million for him it would have been daylight robbery by us, but £140 million was absolute insanity. Particularly when his game doesn't really fit with how we play, and I don't really think fits with how many top teams have played since 2018.

[Bird Bird Bird The Bird Is The Word]

If the current postponement rules were in place last season, I wonder how many games we would've been eligible for postponements from our injury problems. Actually curious to know, would've made a stranger season even stranger.

[Circa1892]

If the current postponement rules were in place last season, I wonder how many games we would've been eligible for postponements from our injury problems. Actually curious to know, would've made a stranger season even stranger.

We'd still be finishing up last season while playing this one I think...

[Ghost Town]

Oh yeah no doubt, and we absolutely robbed Barca regardless. If we'd accepted the initial offer of £90 million for him it would have been daylight robbery by us, but £140 million was absolute insanity.

Plus the clause that they couldn't sign any further players from us for several seasons (whatever period it was), which potentially prevented their destabilising others of our players from that CL-final-reaching team, and was also a type of humiliation in itself.

It was a deal for the ages that one. One of the best ever. They'll be lecturing about it in business studies courses for decades to come.

[Bird Bird Bird The Bird Is The Word]

We'd still be finishing up last season while playing this one I think...

Would've robbed us of Alisson's header too

[Dim Glas]

If the current postponement rules were in place last season, I wonder how many games we would've been eligible for postponements from our injury problems. Actually curious to know, would've made a stranger season even stranger.

None I don’t think.  As the deal with Arsenal this week is they can count the 4 (or is it 5?) players they have at AFCON, as they don’t actually have the worst injury crisis going on or anything.

I seem to recall we did have maybe 8 or 9 out a couple times, but even that would still leave enough to make a team.  Our issue was more having 3 long term injuries in one position, and then 2 or 3 others first 11 players out at the same time, consistantly, during the 2nd half of the season.

[newterp]

None I don’t think.  As the deal with Arsenal this week is they can count the 4 (or is it 5?) players they have at AFCON, as they don’t actually have the worst injury crisis going on or anything.

I seem to recall we did have maybe 8 or 9 out a couple times, but even that would still leave enough to make a team.  Our issue was more having 3 long term injuries in one position, and then 2 or 3 others first 11 players out at the same time, consistantly, during the 2nd half of the season.

plus once january rolls around - the PL could easily say - buy players if you have an injury crisis.

yes it's a bit more nuanced than that of course for last season. this season though - the PL and FA has made a mockery of this.

Look at the rest of Europe - barely any postponements its seems.

[sinnermichael]

Burnley vs Watford due to be postponed due to lack of interest.

[Nick110581]

Burnley vs Watford due to be postponed due to lack of interest.

If agreed then Burnley will have played 17 games.

But at least they sold their striker when short on numbers.

[Barneylfc∗]

If agreed then Burnley will have played 17 games.

But at least they sold their striker when short on numbers.

Just had a look at their site. Their squad is 23 players, 3 of which are goalkeepers.
How many of their postponements have been at their own request?

[Decomposing Composer]

Burnley v Watford has been postponed. Burnley have 5 games in hand now. Dyche said currently he only has 10 players available, their next game is only 5 days away. Making it very likely that will get postponed too. Burnley are getting close to the point where if any more of their games get called off, they won't be able to rearrange them all before the end of the season.

[redgriffin73]

We play them soon don't we? They'll have had about 8 weeks rest leading up to it

[Dim Glas]

Burnley v Watford has been postponed. Burnley have 5 games in hand now. Dyche said currently he only has 10 players available, their next game is only 5 days away. Making it very likely that will get postponed too. Burnley are getting close to the point where if any more of their games get called off, they won't be able to rearrange them all before the end of the season.

whole thing is ridiculous.

Burnley had 16 players available last night for their U23 game.

If the Premier League was actually competent (ha!), they should have had rules in place from the get go, that if you have the required number of professional players, regardless of experience, then you play or forfeit. Burnley (and Leicester, and Arsenal) clearly have more than enough as all PL clubs have.

Couple weeks ago Bundesliga made it clear that a team had to play on despite having over half their 1st team squad unavailable, they basically filled their bench with U23 players (and gave debuts to 2 of them late in the game), and added 1 or 2 youngsters to their line up and off they went.

Only postponements should be for when a training ground is locked down and no one can actually get together to train and prepare.

[newterp]

whole thing is ridiculous.

Burnley had 16 players available last night for their U23 game.

If the Premier League was actually competent (ha!), they should have had rules in place from the get go, that if you have the required number of professional players, regardless of experience, then you play or forfeit. Burnley (and Leicester, and Arsenal) clearly have more than enough as all PL clubs have.

Couple weeks ago Bundesliga made it clear that a team had to play on despite having over half their 1st team squad unavailable, they basically filled their bench with U23 players (and gave debuts to 2 of them late in the game), and added 1 or 2 youngsters to their line up and off they went.

Only postponements should be for when a training ground is locked down and no one can actually get together to train and prepare.

WTF is Burnley doing - making up injuries in training and giving people covid to avoid playing? This is ridiculous.

Worse than Aresenal's recent shenanigans.

[Decomposing Composer]

Couple weeks ago Bundesliga made it clear that a team had to play on despite having over half their 1st team squad unavailable, they basically filled their bench with U23 players (and gave debuts to 2 of them late in the game), and added 1 or 2 youngsters to their line up and off they went.

I think the Premier League is the only league who has has the 13+1 rule and only counting "appropriately experienced" players towards that total. All the other leagues as far as I'm aware make you use all your players (U23's and further down if you have to) till you can assemble a team and the game goes ahead.

[Barneylfc∗]

There's a new thread for this week's games 

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=351255.0

[Decomposing Composer]

There's a new thread for this week's games 

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=351255.0

Cheers. I will post in there instead.

[SamLad]

whole thing is ridiculous.

Burnley had 16 players available last night for their U23 game.

If the Premier League was actually competent (ha!), they should have had rules in place from the get go, that if you have the required number of professional players, regardless of experience, then you play or forfeit. Burnley (and Leicester, and Arsenal) clearly have more than enough as all PL clubs have.

Couple weeks ago Bundesliga made it clear that a team had to play on despite having over half their 1st team squad unavailable, they basically filled their bench with U23 players (and gave debuts to 2 of them late in the game), and added 1 or 2 youngsters to their line up and off they went.

Only postponements should be for when a training ground is locked down and no one can actually get together to train and prepare.

you and your common sense .... jeez ....