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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2022, 11:28:06 pm »
not really into F1 these days. loved it as a kid back in the mid to late 90s but lost interest.

Hamilton is a great though and dont get the hate for him. i guess thats always the way when you win so much. alot of people didnt like Schumacher either i guess.

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2022, 05:20:50 pm »
So far Car Launch dates are Aston Martin 10/02, McLaren 11/02, Ferrari 17/02 & Mercedes 18/02. Also don't think they'll be any coverage of the first test and for this reason Ferrari are running a different Livery in the second

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2022, 05:22:55 pm »
Don't think I can cope with the typo in the thread title for 11 months ;D

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2022, 06:52:10 am »
What am I missing?
Shouldn't it be 'affect'?
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2022, 07:02:30 am »
Shouldn't it be 'affect'?


No, I don't think so.
   
      Effect -: a change which is a result or consequence of an action or other cause.
     Affect -: have an effect on; make a difference to.

    Affect is usually a verb meaning "to produce an effect upon," as in "the weather affected his mood." Effect is usually a noun meaning "a change that results when something is done or happens," as in "computers have had a huge effect on our lives." There are exceptions, but if you think of affect as a verb and effect as a noun, you'll be right the majority of the time.

Although it depends on how you interpret the sentence.... confusing....

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2022, 07:27:29 am »
No, I don't think so.
   
      Effect -: a change which is a result or consequence of an action or other cause.
     Affect -: have an effect on; make a difference to.

    Affect is usually a verb meaning "to produce an effect upon," as in "the weather affected his mood." Effect is usually a noun meaning "a change that results when something is done or happens," as in "computers have had a huge effect on our lives." There are exceptions, but if you think of affect as a verb and effect as a noun, you'll be right the majority of the time.

Although it depends on how you interpret the sentence.... confusing....
I’m waiting for an English teacher to sort it out  ;D
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2022, 08:07:22 am »
I’m waiting for an English teacher to sort it out  ;D

I'm an English teacher, and it's "ground effect". The 's' at the end of the tread title is not really correct though, if we're splitting hairs...

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2022, 09:02:26 am »
Zak Brown's confirmed McLaren have had a chat with Volkswagen.
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2022, 09:26:48 am »
So far Car Launch dates are Aston Martin 10/02, McLaren 11/02, Ferrari 17/02 & Mercedes 18/02. Also don't think they'll be any coverage of the first test and for this reason Ferrari are running a different Livery in the second

Do we think the dates reflect how deep into last season the teams were still developing last year's car?

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2022, 10:10:34 am »
I'm an English teacher, and it's "ground effect". The 's' at the end of the tread title is not really correct though, if we're splitting hairs...
Tar lar  :thumbup
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2022, 10:24:17 am »
I'm an English teacher, and it's "ground effect". The 's' at the end of the tread title is not really correct though, if we're splitting hairs...

I was indeed ;D
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2022, 03:06:59 pm »
I'm an English teacher, and it's "ground effect". The 's' at the end of the tread title is not really correct though, if we're splitting hairs...

Intermediate or full wets?  :)
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2022, 04:44:36 pm »
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2022, 05:27:12 pm »
Intermediate or full wets?  :)

Yeah I just read it back... :butt ;D

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2022, 05:30:26 pm »
Yeah I just read it back... :butt ;D
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2022, 06:09:55 pm »
I'm an English teacher, and it's "ground effect". The 's' at the end of the tread title is not really correct though, if we're splitting hairs...
It’s more than one effect though… ;D
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2022, 11:15:49 pm »
So far Car Launch dates are Aston Martin 10/02, McLaren 11/02, Ferrari 17/02 & Mercedes 18/02. Also don't think they'll be any coverage of the first test and for this reason Ferrari are running a different Livery in the second


Hopefully Ferrari are returning to the scarlet red of old rather then the darker one of last year
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2022, 12:45:06 am »
It’s more than one effect though… ;D
Still no S it seems when you look at Webster https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ground%20effect

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2022, 08:39:46 am »
6/10
Must try harder
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I was tyred, alright?  ;D

Still no S it seems when you look at Webster https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ground%20effect

Actually genuinely interested here, in what way is ground effect more than one effect? I'm not an engineer, so I have no clue.
Still no S it seems when you look at Webster https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ground%20effect

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2022, 09:23:51 am »
Actually genuinely interested here, in what way is ground effect more than one effect? I'm not an engineer, so I have no clue.


Same effect, but on multiple cars was perhaps what they meant?

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2022, 10:46:23 pm »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60160969

But sources have told BBC Sport that the FIA's plans are to introduce a series of safeguards that will leave the race director freer to make decisions in a calmer environment.

Many insiders admit that Masi made a series of operational errors in the closing laps at Yas Marina that were contrary to the rules and accepted protocols - and there remain serious questions about his future in the role.

At the same time, it has been accepted that the Australian was left exposed, isolated and under too much pressure in the final laps of the race.

A support structure is being planned for the race director, insiders say.

This is likely to include a barrier between that role and the teams to avoid the direct lobbying to which Masi was subjected from the team bosses of both Mercedes and Red Bull in Abu Dhabi.

Revisions to the operations of the stewards - who are independent of the race director and decide on penalties for breaches of the rules - are also being considered.

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2022, 08:01:19 am »
This is likely to include a barrier between that role and the teams to avoid the direct lobbying to which Masi was subjected from the team bosses of both Mercedes and Red Bull in Abu Dhabi.

Very good point actually. Masi was being badgered all over the place from Mercedes / Red Bull whilst trying to do his job. You can’t talk to referees when they’re reviewing VAR

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2022, 01:11:39 pm »
Very good point actually. Masi was being badgered all over the place from Mercedes / Red Bull whilst trying to do his job. You can’t talk to referees when they’re reviewing VAR
agreed mate, it was pretty tough on Masi, doesnt excuse the fuck ups though. you just know Charlie Whiting would have been hanging up a lot of the time if the bosses were like that with him, but then again he had the gravitas and respect built up
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2022, 01:22:22 pm »
The support structure should be implemented, but it should be so that Masi's replacement has the cover they need and he should still be booted out for that shambles.

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2022, 05:19:45 pm »
The support structure should be implemented, but it should be so that Masi's replacement has the cover they need and he should still be booted out for that shambles.
I agree, Masi is not a figure that should survive the utter shambles that was Abu Dhabi. Not to mention Brazil and Saudi Arabia and probably a few more I'm missing. He clearly was in over his head, but it also shows that he is not fit for the role.
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2022, 03:21:43 pm »
Honda will continue to supply power units to Red Bull directly from Japan until the end of the current Formula 1 regulations, in a dramatic change of plan.


https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/honda-set-to-extend-direct-red-bull-supply-to-2025/7677145/

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effects
« Reply #67 on: January 29, 2022, 03:23:21 pm »
You’d be bloody annoyed if you’d moved from AMG to RB and were currently on gardening leave wouldnt you….!
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #68 on: January 29, 2022, 06:16:21 pm »
Honda will continue to supply power units to Red Bull directly from Japan until the end of the current Formula 1 regulations, in a dramatic change of plan.


https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/honda-set-to-extend-direct-red-bull-supply-to-2025/7677145/

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #69 on: January 29, 2022, 07:18:23 pm »
I hate Red Bull but have a fondness for Honda, great to see them staying in F1.

Amazing turnaround from Honda after the McLaren years.

Just need Audi and Porsche to officially announce their F1 plans for 2026, been quite a few articles this month which looks like it's going to be happening.


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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2022, 08:29:22 pm »
Aston Martin are rumoured to be behind schedule.

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #71 on: January 31, 2022, 11:24:32 am »
All F1 personnel must be fully vaccinated for the new season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60195524

Doesn't look like it will impact any teams or drivers due to the travel rules in place last season.

Will apply to all personnel working within F1, including drivers, teams, media, hospitality workers and any guests who attend the races.

Considering everything that happened with the actual racing, it seems that F1 is the only sport that managed the pandemic well last season

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #72 on: January 31, 2022, 11:52:22 am »
Lewis Hamiltons #1 Fan does NOT....does NOT look happy!
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #73 on: February 3, 2022, 09:31:26 am »
At the risk of kicking the hornets' nest, this is quite an interesting article on Hamilton's frame of mind.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2022/feb/03/lewis-hamiltons-future-shrouded-in-doubt-as-new-f1-season-looms

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #74 on: February 3, 2022, 09:35:46 am »
All F1 personnel must be fully vaccinated for the new season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60195524

Doesn't look like it will impact any teams or drivers due to the travel rules in place last season.

Will apply to all personnel working within F1, including drivers, teams, media, hospitality workers and any guests who attend the races.

Considering everything that happened with the actual racing, it seems that F1 is the only sport that managed the pandemic well last season
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #75 on: February 3, 2022, 09:37:18 am »
At the risk of kicking the hornets' nest, this is quite an interesting article on Hamilton's frame of mind.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2022/feb/03/lewis-hamiltons-future-shrouded-in-doubt-as-new-f1-season-looms

I think he just wants a guarantee that he won't be conned out of another drivers title.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #76 on: February 3, 2022, 11:29:28 am »
honestly shocked that a top Indy team hasn't come in and publicly made an offer. Would be embarrassing for the FIA lol
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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #77 on: February 3, 2022, 11:35:17 am »
honestly shocked that a top Indy team hasn't come in and publicly made an offer. Would be embarrassing for the FIA lol

I think he's under contract for another year regardless and I'm not sure any team could afford anything like the money he's on

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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #78 on: February 4, 2022, 11:17:21 am »
Haas have (sort of) revealed their car.  I imagine it's just a livery reveal over the generic car for the year.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-haas-become-first-team-to-reveal-2022-car-and-livery.6hTev2bioqDq0QuojBQXp9.html





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Re: Formula 1 2022: The return of ground effect(s)
« Reply #79 on: February 4, 2022, 11:17:49 am »