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VAR! Video Assistant Referee & Shite Referees in General
Phil M:
As above...
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/09/video-assistant-referee-stamp-out-match-fixing
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40474969
ggcc14:
It's a great idea and when implemented properly could be a godsend. unfortunately all the evidence from the trials suggests that errors are still very common, which kind of negates the purpose and just slows down the game for no good reason.
classycarra:
If implemented in it's current form, it'll ruin the sport.
It's godawful, currently being used to affirm refereeing decisions.
It raises questions about the statute of limitations (if there was a slight offside off the ball thirty seconds before a goal, and the video refs deem it affected the play, then do you rule out the goal? If there's a foul throw 25 seconds beforehand from the defending team, and a goal is scored does the ref follow the rules and give the attackers a throw in instead of a goal?). This technology isn't making anything clearer, it still relies on human interpretation. It seems to favour divers too (looking only for contact before a penalty winning dive, to affirm the decision, rather than the legality of the contact).
It barely works in Rugby, and has killed that as a spectator sport (you have to wait a few minutes before bothering to cheer a try), and that is a sport much more conducive to stoppage.
Technology should be limited to the binary only, such as with goal line additions (which has been seamless, and added value). You could use it more transparently and consistently for retrospective actions, like say headbutting. But rushing to implement it now would be a disaster
HighSix:
Much rather a virtual reality assistant ref. Locked in a Jonny Quest like set up.
Watching it on a shitty tv monitor with half the world watching your decision helps no one.
lamonti:
--- Quote from: Classycara on July 4, 2017, 03:03:35 pm ---If implemented in it's current form, it'll ruin the sport.
It's godawful, currently being used to affirm refereeing decisions.
It raises questions about the statute of limitations (if there was a slight offside off the ball thirty seconds before a goal, and the video refs deem it affected the play, then do you rule out the goal? If there's a foul throw 25 seconds beforehand from the defending team, and a goal is scored does the ref follow the rules and give the attackers a throw in instead of a goal?). This technology isn't making anything clearer, it still relies on human interpretation. It seems to favour divers too (looking only for contact before a penalty winning dive, to affirm the decision, rather than the legality of the contact).
It barely works in Rugby, and has killed that as a spectator sport (you have to wait a few minutes before bothering to cheer a try), and that is a sport much more conducive to stoppage.
Technology should be limited to the binary only, such as with goal line additions (which has been seamless, and added value). You could use it more transparently and consistently for retrospective actions, like say headbutting. But rushing to implement it now would be a disaster
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These are all the key points. It's a disaster in football. It works better in rugby, a more phase-based game that has used it for years with clear protocols about what gets checked – and even then it's frustrating to spectators and players and breaks up games.
In cricket, a sport entirely based around discrete events, it can work, but totally reduces the taking of wickets – the biggest event in the game – into an administrative event. "Out" only means "out" if one team has no appeals left – even if the stumps are skittled down towards the wicketkeeper they still review the no ball now. And in the case that a team has no appeals left, there's still potential for a completely incorrect decision being upheld because nobody appeals it.
In both cases, there's the argument that it also makes the referees/umpires worse at their jobs as they become reliant on the technology to dig them out of any spot, rather than busting their balls to be in the right place, to have seen the key incident.
Basically, video evidence in sport sounds better in theory than it has ever been in practice. The implementation in football by FIFA is really shockingly bad, and hopefully it will be what kills it stone dead.
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