Topic: Trent Alexander-Arnold

[hansenite]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/04/16/trent-alexander-arnold-triggers-salary-increase-liverpool-contract/amp/.   

Good on the lad

[RedForeverTT]

I can't wrap my head around just how good his delivery is on a consistent basis. The Sky Sports pundits would have gone out back into a broom closet and had a sneaky wank if Kevin De Bruyne had supplied that pass to Salah.

I think McManaman said the same too on BT. Not just one cross but I think there were 2-3 top crosses in the match. If a high profile players like Pogba or Sanchez did that you would get the whole Red Cafe out for street party justifying the 200m they paid for the player.

[RedForeverTT]

Southgate tried Walker in a back 3 in the most recent international break and it seemed to work rather well as Walker is pretty decent in the air, so I wouldn't be surprised if he sticks with that idea. That leaves a back-up right wingback slot open for Trent, who I think would especially thrive as a wingback. Trippier could pick up a knock, or have a shite game and all of a sudden Trent is playing in the World Cup. It would be fantastic for him and his development, so I hope he gets picked.

Would run him to the ground and then return to us damaged goods. A 19yo with enthusiasm doesn't know when to stop. No thank you.

World Cup has a game every 3-4 days and at the moment, Klopp doesn't even let him play 2 games in the same week.

[simbo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/04/16/trent-alexander-arnold-triggers-salary-increase-liverpool-contract/amp/.   

Good on the lad

Fair play to FSG and Klopp for bringing in Incentives for the Academy boys contract. It’s the way forward

[Djimi Smicer34]

Would run him to the ground and then return to us damaged goods. A 19yo with enthusiasm doesn't know when to stop. No thank you.

World Cup has a game every 3-4 days and at the moment, Klopp doesn't even let him play 2 games in the same week.

He's just played two games in less than a week.

[RedForeverTT]

He's just played two games in less than a week.

Forced by circumstances more like. I don't want TAA to get injured so early in the career and ended up like Michael Owen.

[Djimi Smicer34]

Forced by circumstances more like. I don't want TAA to get injured so early in the career and ended up like Michael Owen.

But it shows that he can do it, and perform to the highest level.

There is no guarantee he will be called up, I don't think he will be, but if Trent is offered an opportunity to go to the World Cup he is not turning it down.

[rowan_d]

Would run him to the ground and then return to us damaged goods. A 19yo with enthusiasm doesn't know when to stop. No thank you.

World Cup has a game every 3-4 days and at the moment, Klopp doesn't even let him play 2 games in the same week.

Based on nothing but impressions from interviews, but Southgate seems much more reasonable than past England managers. Hopefully his background in youth football will lead to him putting more care into making sure the young players don't overexert themselves to the point that they either burn out early in a season, or in their career as a whole ala Rooney.

Players will always get injured if they're unlucky or exhausted if overplayed, but we've hopefully seen the end of nonsense like 'testing his resolve' and refusing to adjust certain players' training schedules if they've proven to help them keep fit.

[classycarra]

None of them come close to Matip's ability on the ball in my opinion. He picks out some unbelievable passes. If he was a bit shorter and a bit quicker he'd be a perfect 6.

I think it was initially passing range that was mentioned. I think there's an argument that Matip is behind Van Dijk, TAA and Lovren in this respect. Excellent passer into midfield (or further forwards, when he's camped in their half), but I don't think he plays particularly good balls over middle to long distances.

[fredfrop]

Looking at our attacks since Coutinho left, it seems that TAA and Robertson have made up the loss of incisive crosses that the Brazilian used to provide. Which is nice.

[Chakan]

Looking at our attacks since Coutinho left, it seems that TAA and Robertson have made up the loss of incisive crosses that the Brazilian used to provide. Which is nice.

Coutinho left? Hadn't noticed...

[FlashGordon]

I think it was initially passing range that was mentioned. I think there's an argument that Matip is behind Van Dijk, TAA and Lovren in this respect. Excellent passer into midfield (or further forwards, when he's camped in their half), but I don't think he plays particularly good balls over middle to long distances.

Maybe not lofted balls but he can ping a pass 30/40 yards on the turf not a bother. Lovren is better than Matip in some areas, but passing range definitely isn’t one in my opinion.

[RedForeverTT]

Based on nothing but impressions from interviews, but Southgate seems much more reasonable than past England managers. Hopefully his background in youth football will lead to him putting more care into making sure the young players don't overexert themselves to the point that they either burn out early in a season, or in their career as a whole ala Rooney.

Players will always get injured if they're unlucky or exhausted if overplayed, but we've hopefully seen the end of nonsense like 'testing his resolve' and refusing to adjust certain players' training schedules if they've proven to help them keep fit.

Southgate was a likeable player and definitely more likeable than the corrupted Fat Sam and Hodgson that came before him but that wasn't setting the bar very high. When his job is on the line, I am not sure Southgate would be as reasonable. But again that was my own conjecture.

I think back a time when Gerrard decided to go for operation instead of joining the England team for World Cup or was it Euro? Did a lot of good for him.

TAA will get lots of opportunities down the the road and you look around him, there is no right back of his generation that will give him much competition in 3 to 4 years time (which is sad from and England point of view). Holgate and Tom Davis do not even come close.

[So… Howard Philips]

Holgate and Tom Davis do not even come close.

Close to what?

[BabuYagu]

From the tactics thread but wanted to share it here.

Just wanted to drop some random data in here split into Full backs, Center Mid, Forwards. Will also put players on loan from the club at the end too.

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Player Name G+A/90 SoT+Drib+KP/90
Trent Alexander-Arnold 0,14 3,25
Victor Moses 0,2 3,07
Marcos Alonso 0,27 2,99
Ben Davies 0,35 2,89
Kieran Trippier 0,22 2,56
Fabian Delph 0,12 2,52
Ashley Young 0,2 2,29
Héctor Bellerín 0,1 2,27
Antonio Valencia 0,14 1,9
Kyle Walker 0,2 1,81
Andrew Robertson 0,2 1,62
Sead Kolasinac 0,24 1,61

Don't forget that set piece involvement will influence numbers.

The right number is interesting as I consider them to be a good indicator of a penetrative player. Anybody who is scoring well there I would scout them to see what specifically they are doing in the final 3rd with the ball.

Trent is putting up better numbers than any starting full back in the top 6. And I genuinely think there is even more to come from him too as we are seeing his confidence in himself continue to grow since he put Sane on lockdown.

[Xanderzone]

It's a different age and a different set of circumstances but I'd like calling him up to the WC this summer to Svens decision to call up Walcott in 2006.

If he's not going to play then Southgate shouldn't be engaging in playing-to-the-gallery exercises like Sven did with Walcott.

I always thought that that decision did Walcott no favours. Just like calling up TAA this summer won't do him any favours.

Let him report to preseason and continue his development and then see for Euro 2020.

[rowan_d]

Walcott hadn't played a match above Championship level, and was clearly judged at the tournament to not be ready to play.

TAA has excelled in two Champions League quarter finals against one of the best young attackers in the world, and possibly the best team in Europe. Plus 23 PL appearances, not a huge number but infinitely better than nothing.

I've seen nothing to suggest that he'd be unready to step up if needed. I personally feel he won't go because England have 3 other good rightbacks, two of which seem able to slot into a back 3 which is a huge advantage in a squad and tournament where versatility is a key quality.

If he goes, he'll have earned it.

[na fir dearg]

https://streamable.com/6aodg

Can we all take a moment to notice how composed this kid is? Look at the pass in the lead-up to Firmino goal. He lobs the ball over 3 players perfectly to Gini which opens up a lot of space for both Gini and Ox to drive forward and results in a goal.

that is top class

[Aceldama]

It's a different age and a different set of circumstances but I'd like calling him up to the WC this summer to Svens decision to call up Walcott in 2006.

If he's not going to play then Southgate shouldn't be engaging in playing-to-the-gallery exercises like Sven did with Walcott.

I always thought that that decision did Walcott no favours. Just like calling up TAA this summer won't do him any favours.

Let him report to preseason and continue his development and then see for Euro 2020.

Walcott had never played a top flight game when he went to the 2006 WC. Trent AA is going to be playing in a Champions League semi final soon. It's a silly comparison.

If Southgate was considering calling up Curtis Jones then compare away.

[redbyrdz]

Nobody mentioned that ball to Salah yet? Curved so much that it nearly went out and came back in. Fantastic skill.

[jillcwhomever]

Nobody mentioned that ball to Salah yet? Curved so much that it nearly went out and came back in. Fantastic skill.

I mentioned it in the commentary one hell of a ball it was. Also Trent was great at cleaning up defensively yesterday. I think VVD was stretched who was it who cleared the ball? Great performance by the lad.

[KillieRed]

He might have to play in midfield for us soon, with Clyne or Gomez coming in at RB.

We`re getting a few injuries at the minute.

[didi shamone]

Forced by circumstances more like. I don't want TAA to get injured so early in the career and ended up like Michael Owen.

I don't think injuries can turn you into a monotone money grabbing bellend.

[FlashingBlade]

Poste about AOC in here by mistake,.....but while here would like to say the lads doing sound!

[paulrazor]

what sort of midfield role can he do ?

[Mr Mingebag Squid]

what sort of midfield role can he do ?

Lijnders said he was his number 6 and Woodburn the 10....

[paulrazor]

Lijnders said he was his number 6 and Woodburn the 10....

big ask for him to do number 6 at this stage in europe

worth trying in a league game just in case

[Mr Mingebag Squid]

big ask for him to do number 6 at this stage in europe

worth trying in a league game just in case

Yeah - not sure I'd throw him in there - but then again, you'd had expected him not to have been able to cope with Sane...

You'd imagine alongside Henderson/Milner/Wijnaldum he'd be tutored and cope.

[paulrazor]

Yeah - not sure I'd throw him in there - but then again, you'd had expected him not to have been able to cope with Sane...

You'd imagine alongside Henderson/Milner/Wijnaldum he'd be tutored and cope.

yep

will have to work on it just in case though

midfield is looking thin

[rscanderlech]

TAA versus Marcelo and C. Ronaldo is a disconcerting prospect. I hope we have a tactical plan for that. Maybe Milner plays in the right-most midfield spot and helps him out?

[Chakan]

Someones going to have to step in and give him a lot of support and help against Marcelo.

[Funky_Gibbons]

Someones going to have to step in and give him a lot of support and help against Marcelo.

Someone’s going to have to give Marcelo help against Salah.

[Chakan]

Someone’s going to have to give Marcelo help against Salah.

There's that as well.

[rscanderlech]

Someone’s going to have to give Marcelo help against Salah.

Sure, but today, as you saw, Salah was playing, TAA struggled a lot. He struggled mostly in the air, though. So C. Ronaldo will likely target him and receive the ball in the air.

I think he would have had more support from Henderson and Milner, but they both looked tired today. They will hopefully be fit and well-rested before the final.

[Zlen]

TAA versus Marcelo and C. Ronaldo is a disconcerting prospect. I hope we have a tactical plan for that. Maybe Milner plays in the right-most midfield spot and helps him out?

Nah, no worry at all.
He'll be grand.

[Gods_Left_Boot]

He had the kind of game Guardiola hoped he would have against City, but he definitely was helped by Mo struggling to follow Kolarov's constant overlaps. Dealing with Marcelo on the wing will be tricky in the final, but I'm sure our Trent will do great.

[SteveZissou]

I'd play Clyne in the final. Sorry Trent. TAA has a superb cross in him so I think he would do well if he starts against Real Madrid, but if we do decide to contain with backs to the wall at a certain point, then that's the time to bring in Clyne cos it doesn't work with Trent in there. Both Trent and Gomez have been poor in tracking those balls going over the top.

[rscanderlech]

I'd play Clyne in the final. Sorry Trent. TAA has a superb cross in him so I think he would do well if he starts against Real Madrid, but if we do decide to contain with backs to the wall at a certain point, then that's the time to bring in Clyne cos it doesn't work with Trent in there. Both Trent and Gomez have been poor in tracking those balls going over the top.

Me too. But it all depends on Clyne's fitness.

[Caligula?]

I'd play Clyne in the final. Sorry Trent. TAA has a superb cross in him so I think he would do well if he starts against Real Madrid, but if we do decide to contain with backs to the wall at a certain point, then that's the time to bring in Clyne cos it doesn't work with Trent in there. Both Trent and Gomez have been poor in tracking those balls going over the top.

Mourinho might do that. But not Klopp. You don't just drop a player for the final who has been with you all of the way because of one poor game.

Yes, he looked very poor throughout and needed help. But he got none from Salah or from Klopp, who I thought should have brought Clyne on at some point (not as part of a back 5 though). He will start in Kyiv.

[Zlen]

Me too. But it all depends on Clyne's fitness.

Ye weak of heart!