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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1560 on: May 24, 2017, 12:45:12 pm »
He has prior before.

I remember Migs being dropped by Rogers in favour of Brad Jones for a couple of games and he also came back a better player but soon regressed again. I just wished this isn't another false dawn because our margin of error will be much smaller next season with CL to contend with.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1561 on: May 25, 2017, 07:45:47 am »
Why is that fair? What is it based on? He's worse from crosses (the stats from his time at Mainz back that up) and his reflexes aren't as sharp. I think he's more natural with his distribution but Mignolet has even improved at that now.
Does Mignolet really have better reflexes than Karius? Karius had a poor start but in the semis his reflexes were excellent. And im sure they were pretty good at Mainz. Its weird how nobody seems to rate him.
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1562 on: June 11, 2017, 11:37:58 am »
Thankfully at least our Simon stands in the centre of the fvckin goal mouth at freekicks, unlike that walking dandruf advert Joe Hart who you would think would have learnt from Gareth Bale's freekick, but oh no, he did it again against the Scots last night... twice !!! - unbelievable

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1563 on: June 15, 2017, 09:07:38 pm »
Towards the end of the season he really did command his penalty area and made the right decisions regarding when to punch it clear and when to catch it, if he carries on next season like this then things can only be good for him.
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1564 on: June 15, 2017, 09:11:03 pm »
From after Hull away to the end of the season he was great. Hope it wasn't just a run of form because if we had that level of keeper for an entirety of a season it could make such a huge difference. He wasn't just not fucking up and playing neutrally but he was actually making big saves and commanding his box, two things he hadn't really done at all since he came here.

Desperately hope he keeps it up for all of next season because I miss having a keeper you weren't only not worried about, but one you were actually actively confident in like peak Reina.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1565 on: June 15, 2017, 09:12:45 pm »
We really need a goalkeeper thread now Simon, Karius and Ward are all going to be vying for one spot
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1566 on: June 15, 2017, 09:19:21 pm »
Maybe knowing his place was under severe threat spurred him on, rumours about signing a keeper in the summer probably made him more determined. Fair play to him for rising to the challenge
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1567 on: June 16, 2017, 01:04:04 am »
I used to hate watching him play but he has no real weaknesses in his game anymore. The way he comes and punches the ball is outstanding. I used to criticize his decisions to try blocking low shots with his hands way too often. He uses his feet so much better now to block low shots. His distribution has improved a lot as well. What's there not to like?

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1568 on: June 17, 2017, 12:17:10 am »
Maybe knowing his place was under severe threat spurred him on, rumours about signing a keeper in the summer probably made him more determined. Fair play to him for rising to the challenge
Bit of a weird thing to say, and it's not just you of course. So the difference between his shambolic self that we had to endure for 3 seasons and this more solid new version was just competition? He needed to think he was going to lose his spot to actually perform?

He's either a shithouse for that or maybe he just had the odd okay season, with little to suggest that this is his actual ability given the wealth of evidence we have.

I don't at all expect us to sign a new keeper so I hope he continues playing well, but the 'competition' argument is not very good. Maybe miracles do happen.
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1569 on: June 17, 2017, 02:24:51 pm »
Bit of a weird thing to say, and it's not just you of course. So the difference between his shambolic self that we had to endure for 3 seasons and this more solid new version was just competition? He needed to think he was going to lose his spot to actually perform?

He's either a shithouse for that or maybe he just had the odd okay season, with little to suggest that this is his actual ability given the wealth of evidence we have.

I don't at all expect us to sign a new keeper so I hope he continues playing well, but the 'competition' argument is not very good. Maybe miracles do happen.

it's a fair enough suggestion, so why you decided it a 'not very good one' is a bit odd!  He knew he was going to start the season as the 2nd choice last year, and he knew the manager had bought in a new number 1 of course it's going to have an affect. And it can be positive or negative, for him it looks like it was very positive.

But there's a number of factors.

Another is that he was never that bad in the first place, but many had decided he was utter shit - that has now been passed onto Karius, it seems we always have to have a goalie to come down hard on.

Another will be confidence, he lost it, it affected him, he's now playing with as much of it as he ever has.

Another will simply be working hard, and working with the coach on the things that needed improving on. And I'd think that working with other good goalies likely does help too, an experienced old pro in Manninger, and a younger one in Karius.


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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1570 on: June 17, 2017, 03:16:33 pm »
I do think to a degree he's a confidence player. Not the be all and end all, but a happy Simon is a reliable Simon, and you only have to watch how he (used to?) gets flustered at high pressure moments to know he's taking it to heart.

On a seperate note, good on him (and the other lads who participated) doing this charity work raising over 100K :)

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1571 on: June 17, 2017, 03:22:00 pm »
I suspect that Manninger had a huge effect on him. There's something about having a genuine old pro around to give you advice and teach you the finer points that cannot be underestimated

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1572 on: June 17, 2017, 03:59:54 pm »
I suspect that Manninger had a huge effect on him. There's something about having a genuine old pro around to give you advice and teach you the finer points that cannot be underestimated

Mignolet is a far better keeper than career bench warmer Manninger ever was so not sure what he could have taught him exactly? Mignolet is nearly 30 and played more career games than Manninger ever did so it isn't like he is a kid with no experience.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1573 on: June 17, 2017, 04:03:31 pm »
Mignolet is a far better keeper than career bench warmer Manninger ever was so not sure what he could have taught him exactly? Mignolet is nearly 30 and played more career games than Manninger ever did so it isn't like he is a kid with no experience.

Way more to it than that.

Empathy, understanding, attitude, sense of humour, sharing feelings, just being a friend.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1574 on: June 17, 2017, 04:08:12 pm »
Way more to it than that.

Empathy, understanding, attitude, sense of humour, sharing feelings, just being a friend.

Because he has no other friends at the club? If Simon needs a 40 year old who's never been anything close to a top keeper to hold his hand then he really has no business at a club like Liverpool.

Thankfully I don't think that's the case.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1575 on: June 17, 2017, 04:11:12 pm »
Don't you have people at work you empathise with simply because they do your job?

It's hard to rule this in or out, but I do think goalkeeping has improved since Manninger joined :)

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1576 on: June 17, 2017, 04:13:36 pm »
Because he has no other friends at the club? If Simon needs a 40 year old who's never been anything close to a top keeper to hold his hand then he really has no business at a club like Liverpool.

Thankfully I don't think that's the case.

Mig talkinga bout Manninger:

"I spoke to him over a few drinks in Sydney and I told him I had to thank him for everything he did.

"As a keeper, you can’t really go and speak to anyone in detail about what you are going through. But Alex understands me and he has got the ideas.

"He’s got a similar character to what I have, so it was refreshing to speak with him.

"He’s played with top keepers through his career. He gave me that opportunity to bounce ideas off him when we were in a the gym.

"You wouldn’t necessarily do that with your coach and you certainly wouldn’t do it with an outfield player.

"This has been my best season for Liverpool but I am still taking things on board."

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1577 on: June 17, 2017, 04:15:04 pm »
Don't you have people at work you empathise with simply because they do your job?

If Manninger was so crucial to Mignolet not being a bomb scare of a keeper then we wouldnt have released him. I very much doubt a 40 year old who he'd never met somehow had a profound impact on him because they knocked about on the training field for a couple hours a day.


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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1578 on: June 17, 2017, 04:19:03 pm »
Mig talkinga bout Manninger:

"I spoke to him over a few drinks in Sydney and I told him I had to thank him for everything he did.

"As a keeper, you can’t really go and speak to anyone in detail about what you are going through. But Alex understands me and he has got the ideas.

"He’s got a similar character to what I have, so it was refreshing to speak with him.

"He’s played with top keepers through his career. He gave me that opportunity to bounce ideas off him when we were in a the gym.

"You wouldn’t necessarily do that with your coach and you certainly wouldn’t do it with an outfield player.

"This has been my best season for Liverpool but I am still taking things on board."


Not really my point though. I said that Manninger wouldnt have been giving Simon advice or teaching him the finer points because Mignolet is a far superior keeper than Manninger ever was.

They might be friends and that's nice for them. But I still maintain that Manninger would have not been able to teach him anything about being an actual goalkeeper though.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1579 on: June 17, 2017, 04:23:25 pm »
Not really my point though. I said that Manninger wouldnt have been giving Simon advice or teaching him the finer points because Mignolet is a far superior keeper than Manninger ever was.

They might be friends and that's nice for them. But I still maintain that Manninger would have not been able to teach him anything about being an actual goalkeeper though.

I think you are going a bit over the top about it to be honest! All he suggested was that Manninger helped. Mig has said that was the case - and it was far more than 'because they knocked about on the training field for a couple hours a day' as you claim. Just one of a few factors that has helped our goalie get better.
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1580 on: June 17, 2017, 04:25:20 pm »
I think you are going a bit over the top about it to be honest! All he suggested was that Manninger helped. Mig has said that was the case - and it was far more than 'because they knocked about on the training field for a couple hours a day' as you claim. Just one of a few factors that has helped our goalie get better.
So all good right!

Well Manninger has been released now so lets hope he wasn't too crucial  ;D

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1581 on: June 17, 2017, 04:27:30 pm »
He's retired, he only signed a 1 year contract :)

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1582 on: June 20, 2017, 11:50:23 am »
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1583 on: June 20, 2017, 07:08:10 pm »
Not really my point though. I said that Manninger wouldnt have been giving Simon advice or teaching him the finer points because Mignolet is a far superior keeper than Manninger ever was.

They might be friends and that's nice for them. But I still maintain that Manninger would have not been able to teach him anything about being an actual goalkeeper though.
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The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1584 on: June 20, 2017, 07:55:05 pm »
Not really my point though. I said that Manninger wouldnt have been giving Simon advice or teaching him the finer points because Mignolet is a far superior keeper than Manninger ever was.

They might be friends and that's nice for them. But I still maintain that Manninger would have not been able to teach him anything about being an actual goalkeeper though.
Have you never been mentored by someone who may be technically 'weaker' than you but was able to show you where your weak points are thus helping you overcome them?

No one said that Manninger was a GK God - it's just clear that Mignolet benefited from having him around. Most likely doesn't need him around anymore, but why the hell otherwise would Klopp have brought the old war dog in the first place? It's the kind of thing a good person manager does.

PS really not sure why you got knickers into such a knot about it in the first place.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1585 on: June 20, 2017, 08:46:19 pm »
Have you never been mentored by someone who may be technically 'weaker' than you but was able to show you where your weak points are thus helping you overcome them?

No one said that Manninger was a GK God - it's just clear that Mignolet benefited from having him around. Most likely doesn't need him around anymore, but why the hell otherwise would Klopp have brought the old war dog in the first place? It's the kind of thing a good person manager does.

PS really not sure why you got knickers into such a knot about it in the first place.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1587 on: August 9, 2017, 06:31:26 pm »
If he continues his magnificent form of last season's second half we'll have a very good chance of achieving our goals.

It's impossible to be up there in title conversations without top class goalkeeping performances. His improvement had a profound positive impact on our defence that went on to concede 12 goals last 14 games which was the result of the Mignolet - Matip - Lovren triangle settling down and building enough understanding to perform as a well-drilled unit.

It made sense that three of them needed time to gel and with the whole year behind them they have a good base now to continue with consistently good defensive performances we've seen in the last third of the previous league campaign.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1588 on: August 9, 2017, 06:35:47 pm »
Bumped into him at Manchester Airport at the start of my May half term trip to Boston, really nice fella chatted for a few minutes even though he probably gets hassled a lot and he was wearing a Bruce Lee T shirt which i thought was a nice touch. Face to face he is a bigger unit than i thought he was.
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1589 on: August 9, 2017, 08:49:24 pm »
Bumped into him at Manchester Airport at the start of my May half term trip to Boston, really nice fella chatted for a few minutes even though he probably gets hassled a lot and he was wearing a Bruce Lee T shirt which i thought was a nice touch. Face to face he is a bigger unit than i thought he was

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1590 on: August 9, 2017, 09:02:19 pm »
Bumped into him at Manchester Airport at the start of my May half term trip to Boston, really nice fella chatted for a few minutes even though he probably gets hassled a lot and he was wearing a Bruce Lee T shirt which i thought was a nice touch. Face to face he is a bigger unit than i thought he was.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1591 on: August 11, 2017, 10:54:56 pm »
Been lost in the ensuing shitstorm, but Echo tonight reporting that Mignolet has "won the battle" to be our #1 keeper this season, until displaced. Personally think it's the right call, don't think Karius did enough in pre-season to challenge it (made some good saves but had a number of brainfarts). Long-term I ain't convinced, but we gotta work with what we got and think Mignolet is the best option - for now.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1592 on: August 11, 2017, 11:33:21 pm »
Personally think that the decision was never in doubt as based on last seasons form Simon was always going the be our #1 at the start of the season. The lad was probably in our top 3 performers last season and by far our most consistent man in the backline...how times have changed for the man who was #2 this time last year.
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1593 on: August 12, 2017, 06:16:40 am »
Another boss season please, Si.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1594 on: August 12, 2017, 02:23:41 pm »
F**ksake, that was going out for a throw in.
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1595 on: August 12, 2017, 02:25:06 pm »
If we don't sign a new keeper before August 31st we are fecked. :no

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1596 on: August 12, 2017, 02:25:59 pm »
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1597 on: August 12, 2017, 02:26:01 pm »
Not sure what he was up to there really.

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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1598 on: August 12, 2017, 02:26:14 pm »
It's been his worst performance for us today.
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Re: The Simon Mignolet is boss thread.
« Reply #1599 on: August 12, 2017, 02:26:27 pm »
Fuck sake