Topic: Harry Maguire considering his options thread

[Sudden Death Draft Loser]

Seems we have some soiled trousers in here now that the german playing field has been leveled

You'll need to get some footballers first.

[oldman]

What's with the pants pissing in here? You'd swear they hired a young Bill Shankly instead of a 63-year old with no experience in English football, who has to deal with a group of lazy overrated useless fuckers from the start amid a fanbase with zero patience. Terrifying 

spot on - they are too shit for anyone to sort out for years

[oldman]

Del, putting Ronaldo in the same sentence as “initiating the press” leads me to believe you are trying to be humourous.

I think he was and I think he succeeded

[Crosby Nick]

Seems we have some soiled trousers in here now that the german playing field has been leveled

I didn’t realise Sir Alex was a member, but welcome.

[Hedley Lamarr]

Seems we have some soiled trousers in here now that the german playing field has been leveled

Because you’ve employed a non-manager to be a manager ? His record has me shitting myself, either that or pissing myself laughing.  He is pretty good at a Europa league level though.

[TepidT2O]

Klopp’s mentor. Klopp’s inspiration. He taught Klopp everything he knows about counterpressing, bla, bla, bla. Amusing that they have to link Rangnick to Klopp as if to validate this move

Thomas Frank was this, not Ragnick….

Everyone seems to have forgotten this!

Ragnick will improve them, but let’s hope he doesn’t give them an accidental sense of direction.

[Crosby Nick]

Thomas Frank was this, not Ragnick….

Everyone seems to have forgotten this!

Ragnick will improve them, but let’s hope he doesn’t give them an accidental sense of direction.

The Brentford manager? I doubt it!

Wolfgang wasn’t it?

[TepidT2O]

Seems we have some soiled trousers in here now that the german playing field has been leveled

Hmmm not so sure.

De Gea.  Line keeper, totally wrong for Ragnick’s game
Wan Bissaka shit.
Lindelof bang average
Maguire
Shaw fat, can’t press.
Mctomminey
Fred
Matic
Mata he’s still there?
Pogba? he couldn’t press a shirt.

Front 4? Decent, the rest? Abominable

[TepidT2O]

The Brentford manager? I doubt it!

Wolfgang wasn’t it?

Yes!  That’s it.

[Dench57]

Jurgen Klopp confirmed bedwetter:

Jürgen Klopp: Ralf Rangnick’s arrival is bad news for rest of Premier League

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/nov/26/jurgen-klopp-ralf-rangnicks-arrival-is-bad-news-for-rest-of-premier-league

[El Lobo]

Seems we have some soiled trousers in here now that the german playing field has been leveled

The most delicious thing is….you lot will never, ever learn

[smutchin]

Thomas Frank was this, not Ragnick….

I think you mean Wolfgang, but even so... the Brentford manager does look like he would have been a better bet than Rangnick.

Everyone seems to have forgotten this!

There seems to be some weird agenda whereby the media want it to look like United aren't just shitting the bed and making it up as they go along. They have no long-term strategy. They're only getting Rangnick on the consultancy role after this interim period because that's what he insisted on as a condition of going there. It hardly sounds like it was his boyhood dream to be United manager. He's got them over a barrel because they're desperate. It will be interesting to see what happens if/when Pochettino arrives to pick up the reins in the summer - will he be able to gel with Rangnick? Pochettino seems more like a Rodgers-style "his own man" kind of person.

Ragnick will improve them, but let’s hope he doesn’t give them an accidental sense of direction.

<insert some pithy observation about silk purses and sows' ears here>

[smutchin]

The Brentford manager? I doubt it!

Wolfgang wasn’t it?

Should have read to the end of the thread before replying myself... sorry!

But anyway, I reckon Thomas Frank is exactly the kind of manager United do need. But he's not what they're getting.

[Keith Lard]

Seems we have some soiled trousers in here now that the german playing field has been leveled

Who has soiled trousers? I’m one of the few that actually think it’s a solid appointment and tried to throw a crumb of comfort to you bunch of clowns that thought Ole could ever be a good manager. Most think you lot are still thoroughly fucked behind the scenes and just reacting as you always have for the last decade and jumping on the latest bandwagon, making a muddled appointment of a German guy that’s never actually won anything.

[smutchin]

Seems we have some soiled trousers in here now that the german playing field has been leveled

It's like you've gone for whichever random German was available simply because German managers are the flavour of the month. I bet your first choice was Jurgen from Bake Off but he turned you down. (He's called Jurgen, he must be good, right?)

[Jon2lfc]

"He helped me a lot," Tuchel said of Rangnick. "He was my coach and one of the main figures to convince me to try coaching so he had a huge influence on all of us at that time. He showed us it's not important to follow people to the toilet in football games because that was the belief."

What does Tuchel mean here about the toilet part? Lost in translation?

[Keith Lard]

"He helped me a lot," Tuchel said of Rangnick. "He was my coach and one of the main figures to convince me to try coaching so he had a huge influence on all of us at that time. He showed us it's not important to follow people to the toilet in football games because that was the belief."

What does Tuchel mean here about the toilet part? Lost in translation?

Who bloody knows man lol … Rangnick clearly seems to be someone that commands an almost fatherly respect from the current generation of younger German managers

[rob1966]

They need to kick out Ferguson from doing anything other than waving hands at crowds otherwise they will remain fucked.

Fuck that, keep him there. In fact, they have to insist he gets more involved

[Sharado]

"He helped me a lot," Tuchel said of Rangnick. "He was my coach and one of the main figures to convince me to try coaching so he had a huge influence on all of us at that time. He showed us it's not important to follow people to the toilet in football games because that was the belief."

What does Tuchel mean here about the toilet part? Lost in translation?

Ha ha ha ha ha probably nothing Tuchel is a right fucking weirdo.

[wemmick]

"He helped me a lot," Tuchel said of Rangnick. "He was my coach and one of the main figures to convince me to try coaching so he had a huge influence on all of us at that time. He showed us it's not important to follow people to the toilet in football games because that was the belief."

What does Tuchel mean here about the toilet part? Lost in translation?

I think he is referring to man-marking there.

[smutchin]

Who bloody knows man lol … Rangnick clearly seems to be someone that commands an almost fatherly respect from the current generation of younger German managers

He seems to be a bit of a Bielsa figure - an elder statesman who seems to be hugely respected for his progressive views, and regarded as hugely influential across the game, but without the cabinet full of silverware that his reputation might suggest.

And it will take him a lot more than 6 months to fix that shower.

[Magz50]

Looks set up for a disaster to happen. Not that Rangnick is bad, he's very good, however, he's coming in middle of a season, tons of pressure, a group of mercenaries, many whom are extremely lazy. A lot of games tightly packed in, so it will be incredibly hard for him to stamp his style on the players in a fast amount of time which means they will most probably let in a ton of goals trying to come to grips with a higher tempo game as Rangnick will want. Gonna have players like Penaldo and Pogback spitting the dummy as well at having to work hard.

Grab the popcorn.

[Fortneef]

Theres 2 stages to manu reanimation

Stage 1.
 Spunk a shitload of cash on two half decent central midfielders , tell pogba to fuck off, be best of the also rans, finish fourth, CL football, hooray trebles all round.
Not beyond a half decent manager.


Stage 2.
Try to build a machine like the top 3 have. Embrace a footballing philosophy build a structure to support and start a long painful process of clearing out the duds.
Hmmm.

[Son of Spion]

Seems we have some soiled trousers in here now that the german playing field has been leveled

Everton: Once we get a new stadium everything will work out perfectly.

Man United: Once we get our own murderous state ownership Klopp in, everything will work out perfectly.

Most people: Once I win the lottery, life will work out perfectly.

The world is full of dreamers. 

The only soiled trousers I've noticed are mine, seeing as I've been pissing myself every day since Ferguson left the Theatre of Dreamers.

[markedasred]

Do others think that the best thing he could do is sideline big Ron?. I think he could be very effective if it wasn't for the on pitch manager interfering with process and plans, just doing whatever he thinks is best anyway, whatever Rangnik says. That's my initial take, that he would be good but won't get the chance to be his own man in enough of the decision making and shaping of things. Enjoy the boost to your pension Ralf.

[CalgarianRed]

I don't understand the media fawning over him. He has done well at RBL but he was a sporting director and Hassanhuttl was the manager when they got relevant. Before that they had vast resources compared to other teams.

He was average at Schalke and had to quit due to stress. This was when Schalke were top 2-3 teams in Germany and had resources.

AC Milan rejected him as Pioli did well and he wanted complete control (modern football clubs don't work that way anymore).

I agree with the Biesla shouts. They will play better football but still end up outside top 4 and then implode next season.

[tonysleft]

Everton: Once we get a new stadium everything will work out perfectly.

Man United: Once we get our own murderous state ownership Klopp in, everything will work out perfectly.

Most people: Once I win the lottery, life will work out perfectly.

The world is full of dreamers. 

The only soiled trousers I've noticed are mine, seeing as I've been pissing myself every day since Ferguson left the Theatre of Dreamers.

you've been pissing your trousers every day since 2013?

[Son of Spion]

you've been pissing your trousers every day since 2013?

Every day. 

[rob1966]

you've been pissing your trousers every day since 2013?

Incontinence is a bastard

[tonysleft]

Every day. 

what about that time we went top of the league for a few mins?

[Tesco tearaway]

you've been pissing your trousers every day since 2013?

His nickname down the pub is Swampy 

[SamLad]

You don't think he was taking the piss? 

you don't think I was? 

[Tesco tearaway]

you don't think I was? 

No, obviously not 

[4pool]

Seems we have some soiled trousers in here now that the german playing field has been leveled

Tony, explain this pending appointment to me? Clear things up.

You're getting an "interim" manager for 6 months.  Fair do's.

What do you expect out of him?

Then he is to leave the managerial side and have 2 years consultancy.

So if Ralph manages for 6 months. Then is kicked upstairs, you'll need a new manager. When the new manager comes in, will the new manager be expected to play the same style as what Ralph has started? And if he doesn't then you have the overlord above kicking off internally.

Basically Ralph is going to help Man utd get Ralph lite as the next manager it seems to me. Not some proven name..aka Poch.

How do you see the rest of the season going and the transition next summer?

[SamLad]

No, obviously not 

maybe I'm a lot more nuanced than you're aware. 

[Tesco tearaway]

maybe I'm a lot more nuanced than you're aware. 

It's all just black letters that can be taken anyway the reader want's.
A smiley or two usually helps convey meaning 

[tonysleft]

Tony, explain this pending appointment to me? Clear things up.

You're getting an "interim" manager for 6 months.  Fair do's.

What do you expect out of him?

Then he is to leave the managerial side and have 2 years consultancy.

So if Ralph manages for 6 months. Then is kicked upstairs, you'll need a new manager. When the new manager comes in, will the new manager be expected to play the same style as what Ralph has started? And if he doesn't then you have the overlord above kicking off internally.

Basically Ralph is going to help Man utd get Ralph lite as the next manager it seems to me. Not some proven name..aka Poch.

How do you see the rest of the season going and the transition next summer?

It makes absolutely no sense to me mate and the last 3 months have been so utterly insane to me that i feel number to football than i have for a long long time.

all I feel from this board is that they attempt to convince everyone they have a plan or are doing something admirable while consistently winging it based on twitter opinion polling

[Samie]

This is the first good appointment youse have made in nearly a decade.

Moysie is well Moysie.

Van Gaal and Mourinho were busted flushes.

Ole was a joke.

[Red Beret]

Tony, explain this pending appointment to me? Clear things up.

You're getting an "interim" manager for 6 months.  Fair do's.

What do you expect out of him?

Then he is to leave the managerial side and have 2 years consultancy.

So if Ralph manages for 6 months. Then is kicked upstairs, you'll need a new manager. When the new manager comes in, will the new manager be expected to play the same style as what Ralph has started? And if he doesn't then you have the overlord above kicking off internally.

Basically Ralph is going to help Man utd get Ralph lite as the next manager it seems to me. Not some proven name..aka Poch.

How do you see the rest of the season going and the transition next summer?

Sounds like they want him to take Ferguson's place as the back seat driver at the club.

[4pool]

It makes absolutely no sense to me mate and the last 3 months have been so utterly insane to me that i feel number to football than i have for a long long time.

all I feel from this board is that they attempt to convince everyone they have a plan or are doing something admirable while consistently winging it based on twitter opinion polling

I guess we will all have to sit back and see what transpires.

Do Man Utd supporters have the patience to wait for success to come back? Or do they want it now?

Going to be interesting to see.