Topic: PL: Palace 0 vs Liverpool 2 ‘44 Milner pen ‘92 Mane

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Brighton won't be easy, but we're a tougher team to face than United.

We got to watch out for set-pieces, but we should dominate every other aspect. They'll be disciplined but not as disciplined as Palace.

[lemons]

Anyone know what's happened to the Benteke that played for Villa? Even for us he looked shot. Hope for his sake he sorts it out at some point because he seems a good lad and there is a player in there too

[cskay]

This is a key point as well. Yes, Mo went down. But he had no choice - in no circumstances does a referee ever give a penalty for that kind of foul unless the attacker draws attention to it. Until honesty is rewarded with penalties, 'diving' of that kind will remain a necessity for strikers. As it was, going down was a better chance of scoring than shooting - Salah did exactly the right thing.

I agree. My worry is he seemed affected by the dive accusation, he was giving too much explanation to their players. Last season he stood his ground too many times when another striker would have fallen and won a fowl for the team. I would like him to win fowls for the team and not honesty badges. There's always a line that he need not cross.

[sms1986]

Anyone know what's happened to the Benteke that played for Villa? Even for us he looked shot. Hope for his sake he sorts it out at some point because he seems a good lad and there is a player in there too

He probably looked better at Villa because he was by far the best player they had.

[lemons]

He probably looked better at Villa because he was by far the best player they had.

I just thought at Villa at times he looked like a right bully. Gave us a handful a couple of times if memory serves? Looks timid whenever I see him now.

[TheMissionary]

Really can't believe how some people (not here ofc) didn't think it was a pen.

Most ex players say it is, only weirdo journos and idiots don't think it was a pen.

Was a bit worried we couldn't get the 2nd earlier but all good.

The ref thought it was a pen, and that's all that matters really.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

He probably looked better at Villa because he was by far the best player they had.

He was a completely different player at Villa. He had a long term injury and ever since then he's been a shadow of his former self. He bullied defenders in the league, including us and was a right nuisance.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

 "I told (Salah) ‘say to the referee it was not a penalty’. - Milivojevic [Palace captain]


Hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhahahaah

Get to fck.

[sms1986]

The ref thought it was a pen, and that's all that matters really.

Exactly, who cares what Palace or any pundit thinks?

[the_red_pill]

"I told (Salah) ‘say to the referee it was not a penalty’. - Milivojevic [Palace captain]


Hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhahahaah

Get to fck.

The ref would've told Salah to f* off!

[clinical]

I just thought at Villa at times he looked like a right bully. Gave us a handful a couple of times if memory serves? Looks timid whenever I see him now.

He used to save his best games for against us. But the bad injury he had, well he's never been the same since. Awful signing by the club, there was a reason a lot of fans were against it, especially after Carroll.

[Chakan]

"I told (Salah) ‘say to the referee it was not a penalty’. - Milivojevic [Palace captain]


Hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhahahaah

Get to fck.

But it was a penalty...

[TravisBickle]

"I told (Salah) ‘say to the referee it was not a penalty’. - Milivojevic [Palace captain]


Hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhahahaah

Get to fck.

 Jesus Christ, that’s absolutely pathetic - I’m actually a bit embarrassed for him. They’ve been proper Hodgson’d if that’s how they think.

[sms1986]

He used to save his best games for against us.

Wouldn't that also be true for the other big teams as well? If he was that motivated against us, then he would be motivated against the likes of City and Spurs as well.

[ColdSteel]

That was a great game.  We've got some real thouroughbred's, don't we?

[Kekule]

"I told (Salah) ‘say to the referee it was not a penalty’. - Milivojevic [Palace captain]


Hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhahahaah

Get to fck.

I’m absolutely certain Milivojevic will tell the ref to change his mind next time Zaha falls over under minimal contact to win a penalty, and will drag young Wilfried over to the ref with him to apologise for diving.

[clinical]

I’m absolutely certain Milivojevic will tell the ref to change his mind next time Zaha dives to win a penalty, and will drag young Wilfried over to the ref with him to apologise.

Cringeworthy stuff by him.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Whilst I don't buy into this line that we would have lost this game last season or 2-3 seasons ago given that we have won our last four visits to Selhurst Park, this was definitely a game that we would have had to win 2-1/3-2/4-3 in recent seasons. For the first time in a long time I now feel really calm when we are only one goal ahead at the end of matches, and I thought the players controlled things really well in the second half. On any other day, we could have been 4-0 or 5-0 up so it is good to see that when our forward line isn't firing, our defenders can be the match winners for us.

A few points that have probably been covered elsewhere:

- Gomez and Van Dijk are looking like they will quickly become our first choice centre-back partnership. They complement each other well and look to enjoy playing besides each other.
- TAA wasn't great going forward but defensively I thought he was really good against a very dangerous attacker. There was one moment where Palace tried to play in Zaha behind Gomez but Trent was one step ahead and had already dropped off to cover the through ball. His weakness last season was his reading of the play so I thought that showed a real sign him learning.
- Wijnaldum should be considered a defensive midfielder. It allows him to play the simple game that he often wants to.
- Mane is looking very, very dangerous. Doesn't feel like that long ago that people were questioning him when his form dropped last season but he was brilliant in the last few months and has picked up where he left off. Wouldn't surprise me if he outscores Salah.
- Alisson and Keita are great, obviously.

[sms1986]

Wouldn't surprise me if he outscores Salah.

I think both will be contenders for the Golden Boot and the winner will be one of them.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

"I told (Salah) ‘say to the referee it was not a penalty’. - Milivojevic [Palace captain]


Hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhahahaah

Get to fck.

With this, and Hodgson's weird interpretation of events, I can only hope that the Palace players and staff are as righteous when they are awarded a "dubious" penalty.

I just hope this diving bollocks doesn't stick in the way it did with Suarez with grock defenders bending down yelling abuse at him when he's on the ground etc. we really need our players to be getting stuck into any opponents that try this with Mo. 

Not sure Mo chose to go down either, he does try to stay on his feet. When you move nimbly like he does, if someone catches you, which Sakho did, then it's hard not to fall especially if you're about to shoot.

[norecat]

Professional performance at a venue where we can come unstuck. The difference Alisson, VVD and Keita make to the side is striking. I think I'm my most optimistic since 1990 in terms of us winning the league. We look defensively solid allied to an industrious midfield and devastating trio up front. Everything points in the right direction.

[slaphead]

Our fans were brilliant in the ground as well, seemed like an home game at times!

Totally. I actually thought to myself at one point the cheek of them Palace fans singing our sing when they were 1-0 down then the commentator said the noise was all from the away fans. Brilliant stuff fair play 

[Dim Glas]

"I told (Salah) ‘say to the referee it was not a penalty’. - Milivojevic [Palace captain]


Hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhahahaah

Get to fck.

embarrassed for him. Although the fact he then said it in public after shows that he has little sense.

I hate this thing with players who've made a mistake trying to deflect, by doing what Sakho did last night in trying to convince everyone around that the player dived.  Take some sodding responsibility. It's so gutless. Wish the ref had booked him for his incessant whining.

 

[Linudden]

"I told (Salah) ‘say to the referee it was not a penalty’. - Milivojevic [Palace captain]


Hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhahahaah

Get to fck.

I told Milivojevic to study Newton's law of physics. - Linudden [RAWK poster]

[wige]

A big three points. A huge statement.

This Liverpool team will not be bullied. It will not shrink from a fight. It will earn the right to have the ball. Then it will kill you. It doesn't have a soft belly, it doesn't carry any passengers. It's hungry. It's angry. It's solid. It's skilful. It's strong. It's composed. It's tough as nails. It's fucking brilliant.

A few moments/things that stood out to me:

- Alisson coming to claim the ball from a corner. Jumping, catching, making it look like the easiest thing in the world. No fuss, no wobbles, a perfect execution of a crucial goalkeeping skill.
- Keita' s turn and pass. Keita's doggedness and fight. Keita's everything.
- Salah's set such standards that a game in which he wins a penalty, assists the clinching goal, creates a clear chance for Keita, hits a great side footed volleyed effort and tracks back and fights like an absolute bastard is considered as him having an off game.
- Both full backs were, in comparison to their usual level, poor on the ball. Both full backs were relentless in their defensive performances.
- Gomez played his best game tor Liverpool.
- Van Dijk is an utter collussus.
- That is the sort of performance and result I used to see delivered by a title winning Utd or Chelsea. Strong, solid, resolute, committed, confident, ruthless.
- This the best Liverpool team and squad I've ever seen.

[PoetryInMotion]

Must say that Townsend and Hargreaves were decent last night (they generally are) - called everything correctly - clear pen, clear red

Hargreaves looks like a guy who has genuinely followed us in the last season or two based on his opinions and looks like he has an astute footballing mind. Townsend just went along with him.

[Nessy76]

What I love in this clip is the Palace players reaction. No attempt to turn and chase, just a slump of the shoulders and a "shit, I've been done". Love it.

I was thinking along those lines last night. When they went down to ten, it crossed my mind that some teams will use that as motivation, to step up a gear and pull off a shock.
But this is a Hodgson side, and he doesn't do motivation, he doesn't demand hunger, just stick with the same plan that isn't working and hope something turns up out of the blue.
Palace are an effective side, and they will have a decent record at home, but another club with those talents available would be looking to push on a level.

[idontknow]

I would like him to win fowls for the team

I shouldn't but I can't help it.
 

[PoetryInMotion]

If only Salah scored from this.

That turn was stuff of Suarez/Mane and the pass was stuff of Gerrard to Owen/Torres/Suarez. I was in disbelief when he pulled off the 1st one (the turn) and missed the 2nd one (the pass) and I found the ball suddenly controlled by Salah and didn't know what happened in between. Caught up with it in the replay though.

[whtwht]

What I love in this clip is the Palace players reaction. No attempt to turn and chase, just a slump of the shoulders and a "shit, I've been done". Love it.

hahahaa.Imagine if Salah hit that with a first time volley. 

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Brighton won't be easy, but we're a tougher team to face than United.

And far superior to Watford who have admittedly started the season well.

[Zeppelin]

Cringeworthy stuff by him.

To be fair, he also said “I do not want VAR in this league. In this country you have the best referees in the world.

“I do not think VAR will help. They are human beings, and they make mistakes sometimes. In his opinion he (Oliver) did the right thing. As players, we have to respect the referee. We are not a team who will cry over that penalty, we just carry on.”

Shame he didn't tell his manager though

[stara]

Watching the game again and appreciating the effort our fans put together. 

[scalatore]

That turn was stuff of Suarez/Mane and the pass was stuff of Gerrard to Owen/Torres/Suarez.

Crazy, isn't it? I thought our fans were getting over-excited when we signed him, but he really is top-class. Brings so much to the team.

[rob1966]

I mute the commentary now.
I wish we had a red button to mute comms and keep crowd noise.
I reckon if that was introduced, there would be a lot of out of work shit stirrers.

They used to have that when I first got Sky 20 years ago, it was a bit strange watching the footy with only crowd noise though. I used to try and listen to Radio City commentary with the Sky pics, but due to the delay with digital - it is behind analogue so the radio commentator told you what happended before you saw it, you couldn't do it.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

With this, and Hodgson's weird interpretation of events, I can only hope that the Palace players and staff are as righteous when they are awarded a "dubious" penalty.

I just hope this diving bollocks doesn't stick in the way it did with Suarez with grock defenders bending down yelling abuse at him when he's on the ground etc. we really need our players to be getting stuck into any opponents that try this with Mo. 

Not sure Mo chose to go down either, he does try to stay on his feet. When you move nimbly like he does, if someone catches you, which Sakho did, then it's hard not to fall especially if you're about to shoot.

I agree,we're far too nice on those situations.

[scalatore]

They used to have that when I first got Sky 20 years ago, it was a bit strange watching the footy with only crowd noise though. I used to try and listen to Radio City commentary with the Sky pics, but due to the delay with digital - it is behind analogue so the radio commentator told you what happended before you saw it, you couldn't do it.

I remember that. The red button used to have 5 Live or something as an option for a while too.

You have to think that the streaming companies that do footy should be able to give us the option of stadium sound or commentary - they already have both audio channels. I'd buy into something like NBC Gold if it had that kind of extra benefit.

[rob1966]

I remember that. The red button used to have 5 Live or something as an option for a while too.

You have to think that the streaming companies that do footy should be able to let us have ambient or comms options at the very least - they already have both audio channels. I'd buy into something like NBC Gold if it had that kind of extra benefit.

I wasn't sure about that, I was convinced that I could remember the 5 Live commentary, but doubted myself.

They probably dropped the idea once it clicked they could be paying commentators when nobody was listening.

[Nessy76]

I wasn't sure about that, I was convinced that I could remember the 5 Live commentary, but doubted myself.

They probably dropped the idea once it clicked they could be paying commentators when nobody was listening.

The technology exists definitely, when the BBC had f1 they had the option to listen to the radio commentary rather than the TV.

[Walk on, walk on]

To be fair, in live action (from the TV angle) it does look like Salah went down easy.



But there was no questions with the replays.



Sakho clearly catches Salah's trailing ankle.



P.S.: Fuck off facerubbing owl.