Topic: Cody Mathès Gakpo

[The G in Gerrard]

Worked his socks off last night. Why he didn't get a foul for that challenge from Evans iirc? Way he picks up ball and runs is joyful.

[Persephone]

Worked his socks off last night. Why he didn't get a foul for that challenge from Evans iirc? Way he picks up ball and runs is joyful.

Nope, he was fouled twice in that same run and neither was given. Leicester were thuggish in the first 20 and nothing was done to protect any of our players.

[The G in Gerrard]

Nope, he was fouled twice in that same run and neither was given. Leicester were thuggish in the first 20 and nothing was done to protect any of our players.

Yeah referee seemed reluctant to give anything in the first twenty minutes. Harvey Barnes & Maddison were going down at slightest thing though.

[lamonti]

Only player Klopp has tried to replicate the Bobby role with by the looks of it. Every other 9 was more of a traditional 9. He looks great picking the ball up deep, turning and sprinting. At the moment his default is to ALWAYS look to Salah, which is fine. Could add a little Bobby slide-rull pass to his arsenal, or that classic Firmino lay-off, run to the byline and pull back inside for Sadio move.

Edit: there should be words for these moves!

[afc tukrish]

Only player Klopp has tried to replicate the Bobby role with by the looks of it. Every other 9 was more of a traditional 9. He looks great picking the ball up deep, turning and sprinting. At the moment his default is to ALWAYS look to Salah, which is fine. Could add a little Bobby slide-rull pass to his arsenal, or that classic Firmino lay-off, run to the byline and pull back inside for Sadio move.

Edit: there should be words for these moves!

Bobby's moves cannot be contained or described by mere verbiage...

[SamLad]

True enough.

As I said this one manc fan I know is probably more intelligent and knowledgeable about what makes a good player than the entire muster at Man United. And long may it remain so

You're saying he had no comments to make about Cody's social media presence??

Wow.

[Dim Glas]

Cody finding his feet so quickly, the return of (and huge strides made by) Curtis Jones, Bajcetic’s emergence, TAA’s superhero regen, and hopefully Darwin getting his confidence back quickly in pre-season makes me very hopeful for this team bouncing back. Of course with reinforcements too!

Only thing that needs doing to make it a real positive vibe - is some strong suggestion there is an overhaul of the sodding medical department over the summer! Only that will truly mean there is much to be positive about!

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

How many goals / assists has he got this season altogether? (PSV, Holland & us)

[Samie]

How many goals / assists has he got this season altogether? (PSV, Holland & us)

19 goals/19 assist's combined for Us and PSV mate.  3 goals at the World Cup too.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

19 goals/19 assist's combined for Us and PSV mate.  3 goals at the World Cup too.

Cheese Chuffer. Some season that then

[KirkVanHouten]

This guy is a great signing. He is so skilful and quick but he is fucking massive. I think after a full pre-season working with the other forwards he’s going to get even better. I have seen more than enough this season, dinked finishes, long range shots, dribbling, etc. to be excited by what he will become. 23 years old too.

[killer-heels]

His goals are not the impressive thing, its his improvement in pressing. Think i read somewhere he is a player that really improves due to his hard work and you can see it in his pressing and how much he is now winning the ball. That is the most essential thing.

[jepovic]

Really good second half, involved in most of the little creativity we had.

[tubby]

Yeah thought he played well, his touch is excellent.

[leinad]

Played well despite nearly getting donuted by Mings.

[SerbianScouser]

Very frustrating game but you have to give Villa credit for completely shutting down the space between the lines with their insanely high line.

Cody literally had no space to operate in. Still did some bits here and there.

He's the least of our worries for the next season.

[shank94]

What's with all these Liverpool Dutch players protecting the ball like it's their kid?

[Samie]

Not a red card though. 

[MonsLibpool]

Very frustrating game but you have to give Villa credit for completely shutting down the space between the lines with their insanely high line.

Cody literally had no space to operate in. Still did some bits here and there.

He's the least of our worries for the next season.

They are a good team with a good manager.

[jepovic]

Not a red card though. 

Ouch. Gakpo will remember this game for the rest of the summer 

[SamLad]

Not a red card though. 

With that piece of shite ref, we're lucky he didn't get a yellow for chesting Mings' foot.

[newterp]

Ouch. Gakpo will remember this game for the rest of the summer 

He may - but opposing fans, the annoucers and the FA will rewrite things quickly to pretend it never happened. And then to have a goal stolen from him.

[RedG13]

Not a red card though. 

That will leave a mark.
I thought the at least was worth the ref going to the monitor for

[Buck Pete]

That will leave a mark.
I thought the at least was worth the ref going to the monitor for

Not even mentioned by the “pundits” on MOTD. Not one solitary word.

You know, the very same pundits who wanted Jota hung, drawn and quartered for a lesser high boot challenge onky a few weeks ago.

Anyway, love Gakpo.  Always seems to want to go forward. Think we are yet to see the best of this lad by a country mile.

[Samie]

https://twitter.com/FootballOranje_/status/1662887814822780931

Cody Gakpo had a wonderful season for PSV and Liverpool

PSV: 13 goals, 17 assists

Liverpool: 7 goals 3 assists

In 50 games this season, that is 20 goals and 20 assists.

[classycarra]

https://twitter.com/FootballOranje_/status/1662887814822780931

Great stats those, Samie

Still can't believe Tepid thought he was mince

[lamonti]

Reckon this guy will be a shining light for us next season.

[Aldo1988]

Pleasantly surprised buy how he turned out, wasn't overwhelmed when we signed him as I was expecting money to be spent on a midfielder and couldn't see where he'd get games.  Looks like he's set to be the new Bobby.

[killer-heels]

Yeah I also thought he may be a bit of a dud but glad to be proven wrong on an assumption made in the first month of him playing. The thing I still have a question about is why we went for his style of player after Nunez but its good that we got him.

There are still some questions about goals from the front three but I think he is capable of replicating 2018-2021 Bobby numbers. But main thing is his pressing has really taken off and that is key.

[RyanBabel19]

A huge example of the need to just give players a bit of time

Within a few games people were moaning and criticising praise of his play. Wonderful player and a great great addition to our side

[Schmidt]

A huge example of the need to just give players a bit of time

Within a few games people were moaning and criticising praise of his play. Wonderful player and a great great addition to our side

I think most felt we needed a midfielder more than anything in January, so watching us sign Gakpo and then seeing our form deteriorate even more as our chances of top four dwindled away was understandably pretty annoying. I like Gakpo but I'm still not convinced our season wouldn't have gone a lot better if we had brought in a decent midfielder.

[Eddie]

Along with Ali's form and the emergence of Stefan Bajcetic. Gakpo has been a real positive in a season that's just been woeful.  Didn't impress me in his first month or so, he looked slow and I couldn't make out his role in the team, but he's really sharpened up, carries and progresses the ball forward as good as any player in the Prem, keeps possession really well, and his play 'between the lines' is great. I think he'll be close to a 'one in three' striker for us. He's going to be a very important player in Jurgen's rebuild. Can't wait to see him next season after a decent pre-season. If he can achieve half of what Bobby did for us, he'll be a fantastic buy.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I think most felt we needed a midfielder more than anything in January, so watching us sign Gakpo and then seeing our form deteriorate even more as our chances of top four dwindled away was understandably pretty annoying. I like Gakpo but I'm still not convinced our season wouldn't have gone a lot better if we had brought in a decent midfielder.

You didn't think there was any need to address the loss of Mane and Bobby?

[killer-heels]

I think most felt we needed a midfielder more than anything in January, so watching us sign Gakpo and then seeing our form deteriorate even more as our chances of top four dwindled away was understandably pretty annoying. I like Gakpo but I'm still not convinced our season wouldn't have gone a lot better if we had brought in a decent midfielder.

Or we sign both? Like seriously, are we that fucking poor.

I cant believe that people are saying Klopp made a mistake getting an attacker over a midfielder.

[GreatEx]

I'm a big Gapko Guy (sic) , really looking forward to what he brings next season. If he stays fit, 25-30 G+A in the league is a realistic target.

[Schmidt]

You didn't think there was any need to address the loss of Mane and Bobby?

We literally started a game with two attacking midfielders, Elliot and Carvalho, in midfield at one point, and we ended the season with one decent midfielder playing regularly. I don't think it's outrageous to suggest that having one quality midfielder for the last 5 months would have had a bigger impact than getting Bobby's replacement in early.

Or we sign both? Like seriously, are we that fucking poor.

I cant believe that people are saying Klopp made a mistake getting an attacker over a midfielder.

I don't disagree but ultimately for whatever reason we only signed one player. I'm not necessarily saying it was a mistake choosing Gakpo, just that I think our odds of a top four finish would have been higher with a midfielder given the issues we've had this season.

[JackWard33]

We use him as a 10 basically an advanced midfielder .. and he's been decent in that role without being anything earth shattering .. not an amazing passer and struggles to get on the ball sometimes- looks lively/aware in the box when he gets there
There remains a live question about whether we have enough goal threat / shot production in this set up

[RyanBabel19]

I think most felt we needed a midfielder more than anything in January, so watching us sign Gakpo and then seeing our form deteriorate even more as our chances of top four dwindled away was understandably pretty annoying. I like Gakpo but I'm still not convinced our season wouldn't have gone a lot better if we had brought in a decent midfielder.

I’ve said it a few times and i’m confident i’m spot on, there wasn’t money made available initially in January, Gakpos availability became apparent and funds were freed up for him specifically, we were short up top and he wasn’t signed on a spur of the moment admiration more with a view to the future and the evolution of our squad, he was called the missing piece because of his ability to link play and transition from defence to attack therefore relieving some the pressure on the midfield, also providing goals and assists. The midfield was an issue but I think the impending departures in summer likely made it hard to sell the idea of spending on another body for midfield in January, it was never a straight choice between Gakpo and a CM hence the talk of us being stretched financially immediately following Gakpos arrival.

This is how I see it but I could obviously be very wrong but going by the comments and way things unfolded around his arrivals its how I see what occured. Also… this is all besides the point. Frustration is one thing and I have been one of those shouting loudest about our need for a CM for some time, the solution isn’t to fucking criticise a young red who is learning a new system, team and league and use him as some lightning rod for our frustrations with our clubs choices, just support the guy and dont write him off instantly because he isn’t a CM

[Black Bull Nova]

I’ve said it a few times and i’m confident i’m spot on, there wasn’t money made available initially in January, Gakpos availability became apparent and funds were freed up for him specifically, we were short up top and he wasn’t signed on a spur of the moment admiration more with a view to the future and the evolution of our squad, he was called the missing piece because of his ability to link play and transition from defence to attack therefore relieving some the pressure on the midfield, also providing goals and assists. The midfield was an issue but I think the impending departures in summer likely made it hard to sell the idea of spending on another body for midfield in January, it was never a straight choice between Gakpo and a CM hence the talk of us being stretched financially immediately following Gakpos arrival.

This is how I see it but I could obviously be very wrong but going by the comments and way things unfolded around his arrivals its how I see what occured. Also… this is all besides the point. Frustration is one thing and I have been one of those shouting loudest about our need for a CM for some time, the solution isn’t to fucking criticise a young red who is learning a new system, team and league and use him as some lightning rod for our frustrations with our clubs choices, just support the guy and dont write him off instantly because he isn’t a CM

Yup, indeed, I also think that Cody is a learner and we'll see a lot more of him as time goes on. The PL can be a challenge for some when new (Leiva, Fabinho etc) not everyone hits the ground running.

[RyanBabel19]

Yup, indeed, I also think that Cody is a learner and we'll see a lot more of him as time goes on. The PL can be a challenge for some when new (Leiva, Fabinho etc) not everyone hits the ground running.

Exactly. Look at Paqueta, quickly dubbed rubbish and a bullet dodged, a little time granted and he's been very good. It's mad we see players we have in our own side have a slow start and require patience then some go back to acting as if it's the first time when another new player needs some time