Topic: Roberto Firmino

[Nessy76]

He did everything whilst playing as a double pivot, he also played as a wide midfielder and as a number 10 and a box to box midfielder.

Sorry, not sure what you mean there. Are you saying he actually played all of those roles, or he played as part of the double pivot and did some other stuff that you wouldn't normally associate with that position?

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Sorry, not sure what you mean there. Are you saying he actually played all of those roles, or he played as part of the double pivot and did some other stuff that you wouldn't normally associate with that position?

Both.

There's an article where Klopp mentions his ability to play in a number of different roles.

[Nessy76]

Both.

There's an article where Klopp mentions his ability to play in a number of different roles.

Well let's hope so. I think it's a bit of a leap to go from that to saying he the ideal player for that role, but obviously I hope you're right.

[Zlen]

Is he tired or what?

[rscanderlech]

Is he tired or what?

If there were more midfield support, he would be able to play nice one-twos and everything else. He might be tired, but playing in this isolated front three over and over must be very tiring mentally. You already know within a few minutes of being on the pitch that you will only get half-chances and will need to create your own moments of magic all the time.

[AndyMuller]

Sloppy af at the moment.

[SuperStevieNicol]

At what point does he get dropped instead of rested? He’s not scoring or creating. Very worrying as he’s so vital to how we play.

[FlashGordon]

At what point does he get dropped instead of rested? He’s not scoring or creating. Very worrying as he’s so vital to how we play.

Literally picked the lock to break the deadlock last weekend. Must try harder, this place is the pits.

[El Lobo]

Literally picked the lock to break the deadlock last weekend. Must try harder, this place is the pits.

Yeah but apart from that, and the goal he scored?

[SuperStevieNicol]

Yeah but apart from that, and the goal he scored?

I love Firmino but he’s been pretty poor all season and I think his form is arguably more key than any other player.

[OOS]

He can't pass to himself.

He's best when we've got midfielders running past him. He's good at receiving the ball in tight spaces, turning a man and playing the ball. We aren't doing that as often anymore. He's a striker who makes play. Granted he's going through a bad patch goalscoring wise, but we aren't playing to his strengths.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

At what point does he get dropped instead of rested? He’s not scoring or creating. Very worrying as he’s so vital to how we play.

He might get rested or dropped if we'd signed a viable alternative in the three years Klopp has been here.

[rawcusk8]

Other than the key pass for Mane and his goal he’s done shit all. Opinions change game by game, y’all should know this by now.

[BobPaisley3]

Bloke must be shattered. We need an alternative so that we rest him every now and again. Despite the nostalgia, Sturridge just isnt anywhere near him.

[El Lobo]

He might get rested or dropped if we'd signed a viable alternative in the three years Klopp has been here.

He’s not doing much right is he, the daft unqualified plonker?

[DelTrotter]

He’s not doing much right is he, the daft unqualified plonker?

Yeah, that's clearly what he said. Odd one you, you absolutely hammer the players at times yet anyone else even suggests a player is out of form and you go nuts, stalking them round the forum, harassing PM's. When you are the most recent response on a thread we pretty much know what's coming when we click, it'll be you having a go at someone, the lad who goes to absolutely no games whatsoever lecturing everyone on how to be a supporter. Can you not just accept other opinions? The lad hardly said Klopp and Firmino are crap and need to get the hell out of our city did he?! If he did then kicking off would be understandable. But someone could write "I didn't think Gini was good tonight, I'd rest him on the weekend" and you'd go absolutely mental. Not sure why you come on here so much when it seems to bring you down so badly.

Anddddd he's PM'd already.  Shock.

[jillcwhomever]

Is he out of form, or is he just getting used to playing in this new position? I agree with the manager he's an intelligent player and he will play himself into it.

[SMASHerano]

Suffering because he's carrying the burden of creating everything for himself. Getting no support from midfield.

[tubby]

The midfield aren't getting him the ball quickly, but when he did get on it, his touch wasn't up to his usual standard and he misplaced some really straightforward passes.  Really need him to get back into proper form and the best way to do that is to get our transitions going quicker to take advantage of his smart movement.

[BrandoLFC]

Just fucking close this thread.

[RedMichelFerri]

Think our forwards are man marked in case of salah Mane, they are double marked. Opposition know that our midfield is not gonna bomb their box, they are happy to allow them space. A player like ox or keita running through middle should change that. Currently none of Milner, hendo and gini have skillet to do it.

[Advil]

Just fucking close this thread.

Why? Firmino is supposed to be an integral part of the team but so far this season he has not been performing at all. I dont think it is wrong for people to question what he actually is contributing to the team.

[Lycan]

Bobby is suffering from the lack of pressing we are doing as a side.

[El Lobo]

Why? Firmino is supposed to be an integral part of the team but so far this season he has not been performing at all. I dont think it is wrong for people to question what he actually is contributing to the team.

Its already been questioned though, and posters far more eloquent than myself have laid out pretty clearly why he's not 'contributing' as much in terms of goals/assists as last season. Not sure what else needs repeating. He didn't play well last night, like everyone apart from Allisson, but he's clearly being asked to play a different role to last season.

[redgriffin73]

Anybody know that song for him ? A few lads were singing it on our coach on Tuesday and were drumming at clapping samba style.

Something like.

Oh Firminio... theres something that we'd like to let you know.
Si ..    Senor ... 
Cos you are the one that we adore.

Anyone ?

Right, I've got these words now...I think...



There's something that the Kop wants you to know....

The best in the world is our Bobby Firmino...

Our number 9, he gets the ball and we score every time...

Si senor, you get the ball to Bobby and he will score...

[BrandoLFC]

Why? Firmino is supposed to be an integral part of the team but so far this season he has not been performing at all. I dont think it is wrong for people to question what he actually is contributing to the team.

Just sit for a second and re-read what you wrote and ask yourself if this is truly what you meant.  Firmino has not performed at all, really?  This is why this thread is trash and most player threads on this forum are as well.  It's either the player is amazing or complete shit, there's no in between.  I suppose it's a good way to waste time between games but seriously... again... You want to claim with a straight face that Bobby Firmino has not performed at all this season and is actually a detriment to the team?  Really?

[RedForeverTT]

Its already been questioned though, and posters far more eloquent than myself have laid out pretty clearly why he's not 'contributing' as much in terms of goals/assists as last season. Not sure what else needs repeating. He didn't play well last night, like everyone apart from Allisson, but he's clearly being asked to play a different role to last season.

He doesn't have a foil this season. Before we had Coutinho and Ox who could do some quick interchanges with him. Milner probably could still a step down. Gini and Henderson just don't have the quickness or ball skills to cause any surprise.

He was off-colour last night but our midfield has let him down.

[kesey]

Anybody know that song for him ? A few lads were singing it on our coach on Tuesday and were drumming at clapping samba style.

Something like.

Oh Firminio... theres something that we'd like to let you know.
Si ..    Senor ... 
Cos you are the one that we adore.

Anyone ?

Heard a group of lads singing it while we were waiting to get into the stadium but can't for the life of me remember it!

There's something that the Kop want you to know
The best in the world is Bobby Firminio
Our number nine
Give him the ball an he will score everytime
Si Senor
You get the ball to Bobby an he will score

Repeat...

Got the tune in my head but still don't know what it is.

Great song.

[kesey]

Its on youtube from Paris.  Cant cut and paste it though.

[BabuYagu]

Just sit for a second and re-read what you wrote and ask yourself if this is truly what you meant.  Firmino has not performed at all, really?  This is why this thread is trash and most player threads on this forum are as well.  It's either the player is amazing or complete shit, there's no in between.  I suppose it's a good way to waste time between games but seriously... again... You want to claim with a straight face that Bobby Firmino has not performed at all this season and is actually a detriment to the team?  Really?

Firmino on Saturday:-

- Created our first open play chance in the first half with counter pressing to win the ball back
- Played the through ball that got us in behind Watford for the 1st goal
- Won the freekick on the edge of the box for the 2nd goal
- Scored the 3rd goal

https://twitter.com/babuyagu/status/1068310981565194245

As Klopp suggested before, if you don't understand the game tactically, you aren't going to understand his role.

[4pool]

Just the stats Bobby Firmino:

Last season after 13 League matches:
3 goals- Watford, Arsenal, Huddersfield.
2 assists- Watford, Arsenal.

This season after 13 League matches:
3 goals- Leicester, Spurs, Watford.
2 assists-West Ham, Brighton.

 

Had to look twice to make sure as the perception is he's been so poor ...lol.

Last season though he scored more in Europe by now. Mind you we had an "easier" group and he wasn't being used as a #10.

[FlashGordon]

Just the stats Bobby Firmino:

Last season after 13 League matches:
3 goals- Watford, Arsenal, Huddersfield.
2 assists- Watford, Arsenal.

This season after 13 League matches:
3 goals- Leicester, Spurs, Watford.
2 assists-West Ham, Brighton.

 

Had to look twice to make sure as the perception is he's been so poor ...lol.

Last season though he scored more in Europe by now. Mind you we had an "easier" group and he wasn't being used as a #10.

Ssshhhhh they don't like it when facts get in the way.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Just the stats Bobby Firmino:

Last season after 13 League matches:
3 goals- Watford, Arsenal, Huddersfield.
2 assists- Watford, Arsenal.

This season after 13 League matches:
3 goals- Leicester, Spurs, Watford.
2 assists-West Ham, Brighton.

 

Had to look twice to make sure as the perception is he's been so poor ...lol.

Last season though he scored more in Europe by now. Mind you we had an "easier" group and he wasn't being used as a #10.

Very  true, our group and the 2 games in the CL qualifiers is why some had more goals at this stage than last year.

[rocco]

Yeah but apart from that, and the goal he scored?

All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what has the Brazilian  ever done for us?

[4pool]

Ssshhhhh they don't like it when facts get in the way.

Whatever you do don't bring up the last 13 League matches last season. You know when things were clicking, rolling, and we were scoring goals for fun.

Bobby's stats for League matches 26 through 38 last season, the last 13 matches:

4 goals- Soton, West Ham, Watford , Bournemouth

2 assists- Soton, Newcastle

[farawayred]

Just the stats Bobby Firmino:

Last season after 13 League matches:
3 goals- Watford, Arsenal, Huddersfield.
2 assists- Watford, Arsenal.

This season after 13 League matches:
3 goals- Leicester, Spurs, Watford.
2 assists-West Ham, Brighton.

 

Had to look twice to make sure as the perception is he's been so poor ...lol.

Last season though he scored more in Europe by now. Mind you we had an "easier" group and he wasn't being used as a #10.

Ssshhhhh they don't like it when facts get in the way.

A tale of an ugly fact killing a beautiful hypothesis... Greek tragedy!

[kesey]

Wouldnt be surprised to hear the song on Sunday. Its all over twatter , youtube and in the echo. Was actually sung at the boss night too.

[Jookie]

Just the stats Bobby Firmino:

Last season after 13 League matches:
3 goals- Watford, Arsenal, Huddersfield.
2 assists- Watford, Arsenal.

This season after 13 League matches:
3 goals- Leicester, Spurs, Watford.
2 assists-West Ham, Brighton.

 

Had to look twice to make sure as the perception is he's been so poor ...lol.

Last season though he scored more in Europe by now. Mind you we had an "easier" group and he wasn't being used as a #10.

If people were saying he was boss at the start of last season and not this season then your post would make sense.

Firmino is below par based on his normal play. However, he was relatively inconsistent and poor at the start of last season. He was pretty poor after the Seville game when he missed a critical pen.

Saying his performances this season are below his 'par' is correct. To say his performances this season so far are relatively comparable to the start of last season is also correct.

Because he's had 2 under par starts to the last 2 seasons doesn't mean he's playing well though.

[FlashGordon]

Wouldnt be surprised to hear the song on Sunday. Its all over twatter , youtube and in the echo. Was actually sung at the boss night too.

What's the song Kesey?

[kesey]

What's the song Kesey?

It's a belter. Heard it in Belgrade but not at Watford. Apparantly it took off in Paris . Its a River Plate song. I cant seem to post a link mate.

Youtube or Google.

New Bobby Firmino song. Post it here.