Author Topic: The Alternative Premier League Table 2019-20 (Read 234402 times)

farawayred · « **Reply #1200 on:** January 30, 2020, 03:49:05 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on January 30, 2020, 03:34:49 pm

This is just beautiful.

This graph is NSFW, our line looks like an erection.

markedasred · « **Reply #1201 on:** January 30, 2020, 04:01:35 pm »

'tis indeed a season to celebrate, as I am now confident enough to say we will finish above our two main rivals Everton and Manchester United. This is one of the things I have hoped would happen by May, for about fortysomething Augusts. Without hope we are nothing.

royhendo · « **Reply #1202 on:** January 30, 2020, 04:36:52 pm »

Spurs away, Man U home, Wolves away, West Ham away, +2, no change, +2, +2.

Trump's tiny tiny hands · « **Reply #1203 on:** January 30, 2020, 05:29:17 pm »

That December to January run is incredible. We all were happy with draws here and there but not this squad, they took it all.

Iska · « **Reply #1204 on:** January 30, 2020, 06:02:33 pm »

Quote from: Bobsackamano on January 29, 2020, 10:51:54 pm

Last 34 games.
W 33
D 1

Even if we lose the next game that will probably still stand as the greatest run of form by the time we are all dead and buried.

Crikey, I suppose that’s probably right. We could be talking a Dixie Dean style record here. He also had to overcome Some Guy breaking records the year before he hit his 60, but nobody really remembers Some Guy now.

JC the Messiah · « **Reply #1205 on:** January 30, 2020, 07:04:44 pm »

Quote from: markedasred on January 30, 2020, 04:01:35 pm

'tis indeed a season to celebrate, as I am now confident enough to say we will finish above our two main rivals Everton and Manchester United. This is one of the things I have hoped would happen by May, for about fortysomething Augusts. Without hope we are nothing.

We win this weekend, and Everton cannot catch us mathematically. Three more wins, and Utd can no longer catch us - obviously fewer if they drop points in the meantime.

stoopid yank · « **Reply #1206 on:** January 30, 2020, 07:07:25 pm »

Quote from: sms1986 on September 22, 2019, 06:48:56 pm

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #1207 on:** January 30, 2020, 11:11:02 pm »

So no team has gone this far without a downward slope on the APLT. man city got to 19 or 20 games before dipping two seasons ago. I’m assuming the invincibles had a dip or two, but that was before APLT.

Prof · « **Reply #1208 on:** January 30, 2020, 11:48:05 pm »

Quote from: Brian Blessed on January 30, 2020, 11:11:02 pm

I’m assuming the invincibles had a dip or two, but that was before APLT.

That drew at home to Portsmouth in round 7

kcbworth · « **Reply #1209 on:** January 31, 2020, 01:29:10 am »

Quote from: Prof on January 30, 2020, 11:48:05 pm

That drew at home to Portsmouth in round 7

Do you have all the data you need to plot the champions of each year on the same APLT, against how we're tracking this season?

Frizzo · « **Reply #1210 on:** January 31, 2020, 02:45:03 am »

Quote from: Brian Blessed on January 30, 2020, 11:11:02 pm

So no team has gone this far without a downward slope on the APLT. man city got to 19 or 20 games before dipping two seasons ago. I’m assuming the invincibles had a dip or two, but that was before APLT.

I actually count all records as "during the APLT era". Before that football didn't exist imo.

Prof · « **Reply #1211 on:** January 31, 2020, 07:46:40 am »

Quote from: Frizzo on January 31, 2020, 02:45:03 am

I actually count all records as "during the APLT era". Before that football didn't exist imo.

Prof · « **Reply #1212 on:** January 31, 2020, 07:48:11 am »

Quote from: kcbworth on January 31, 2020, 01:29:10 am

Do you have all the data you need to plot the champions of each year on the same APLT, against how we're tracking this season?

I'll have them somewhere. If I get some time I'll see it I can cobble something together. It might look better only with certain years.

BigJimFinn · « **Reply #1213 on:** January 31, 2020, 09:07:49 am »

Quote from: markedasred on January 30, 2020, 04:01:35 pm

'tis indeed a season to celebrate, as I am now confident enough to say we will finish above our two main rivals Everton and Manchester United. This is one of the things I have hoped would happen by May, for about fortysomething Augusts. Without hope we are nothing.

We are well on track to finish with more points than Everton and Man United COMBINED. How's that for a rivalry?

Dr Stu-Pid · « **Reply #1214 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:37:00 am »

I think this is probably the best thread to post this in.

The graph below shows the rolling 38 game points total for both Liverpool and Man Utd since Solskjaer took over from Mourinho, and I've also added the trend line for each set of data.

They are almost a perfect mirror image, beautifully illustrating rise and fall in perfect harmony.

And from a numbers point of view, how about the fact that after 10 games of OGS in charge they were within 8 points of our 38 game total, and now just 34 games later that gap is 51 points!

If you would have told me 7 years ago that in 2020 Man Utd and Liverpool would have been separated by 51 points over 38 games I would have assumed that it meant we were about to be relegated! Oh what a time to be alive...

Iska · « **Reply #1215 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:39:58 am »

Quote from: BigJimFinn on January 31, 2020, 09:07:49 am

We are well on track to finish with more points than Everton and Man United COMBINED. How's that for a rivalry?

Unfair comparison. When those two play each other one of them HAS to drop points #taintedtitle

KissThisGuy · « **Reply #1216 on:** January 31, 2020, 11:34:22 am »

Quote from: Brian Blessed on January 30, 2020, 11:11:02 pm

So no team has gone this far without a downward slope on the APLT. man city got to 19 or 20 games before dipping two seasons ago. I’m assuming the invincibles had a dip or two, but that was before APLT.

Didn't City draw at home to Everton early in that season? The second game of the season?

AmanShah21 · « **Reply #1217 on:** January 31, 2020, 12:20:55 pm »

Quote from: Brian Blessed on January 30, 2020, 11:11:02 pm

So no team has gone this far without a downward slope on the APLT. man city got to 19 or 20 games before dipping two seasons ago. I’m assuming the invincibles had a dip or two, but that was before APLT.

No team has ever gone through a season with a 100% win record at home which is necessary in order to have an APLT without a downward slope. That has never happened. The only team to do it in top flight was sunderland back in 1891-92 when we didn't even exist and they only had to win 13 games at home.

The longest unbeaten starts for all teams apart from Us (this season and last) and City (2017-18) are all under 19 games except for United, who went 24 unbeaten from start in 2010-11. However, they drew to West Brom at Home in game 8. Regardless, that guarantees that we now have the longest APLT without a downward slope in the Premier League era.

The next best in the premier league era I think would then be Chelsea 2005-06 who went 11 games without a dip before losing to United in the 12th.

JC the Messiah · « **Reply #1218 on:** January 31, 2020, 12:44:26 pm »

Quote from: Dr Stu-Pid on January 31, 2020, 10:37:00 am

I think this is probably the best thread to post this in.

The graph below shows the rolling 38 game points total for both Liverpool and Man Utd since Solskjaer took over from Mourinho, and I've also added the trend line for each set of data.

They are almost a perfect mirror image, beautifully illustrating rise and fall in perfect harmony.

And from a numbers point of view, how about the fact that after 10 games of OGS in charge they were within 8 points of our 38 game total, and now just 34 games later that gap is 51 points!

If you would have told me 7 years ago that in 2020 Man Utd and Liverpool would have been separated by 51 points over 38 games I would have assumed that it meant we were about to be relegated! Oh what a time to be alive...

Nice.

Iska · « **Reply #1219 on:** January 31, 2020, 01:05:38 pm »

Quote from: AmanShah21 on January 31, 2020, 12:20:55 pm

The next best in the premier league era I think would then be Chelsea 2005-06 who went 11 games without a dip before losing to United in the 12th.

Newcastle won their first 13 in 1995/96 before losing the fourteenth 0-1 to a Cantona goal. They finished with a home record of 17-1-1.

JC the Messiah · « **Reply #1220 on:** February 1, 2020, 05:54:56 pm »

The biggest ever lead at the end of a day in the English top flight apparently.

Enjoy:

JC the Messiah · « **Reply #1221 on:** February 1, 2020, 05:55:22 pm »

Trump's tiny tiny hands · « **Reply #1222 on:** February 1, 2020, 08:01:58 pm »

Like someone dropped the burj khalifa into London that graph

farawayred · « **Reply #1223 on:** February 1, 2020, 08:11:35 pm »

Quote from: farawayred on January 19, 2020, 07:45:43 pm

It's a pity that this thread is missing Sheffield and Wolves... I think that there is a good chance that Sheffield will be 4th at the end of March (when we win the league).

This is coming true week by week. I know that most of you see this as a joke, but Sheffield have the Cherries and Brighton at home in the next two games. I'd think they've done more than United to earn their place in the APLT. It would be unwelcome extra work, but is the any chance to include them, Prof? If not now, maybe after the next two games?

timbo · « **Reply #1224 on:** February 1, 2020, 08:40:48 pm »

This new stat😀 very specific about end of a day so presumably some team had 22 before but a late kick off clawed it back. Anyone know who? Or when?

Quote from: JC the Messiah on February 1, 2020, 05:54:56 pm

The biggest ever lead at the end of a day in the English top flight apparently.

Enjoy:

chemeddy · « **Reply #1225 on:** February 2, 2020, 04:21:15 am »

Quote from: timbo on February 1, 2020, 08:40:48 pm

This new stat😀 very specific about end of a day so presumably some team had 22 before but a late kick off clawed it back. Anyone know who? Or when?

Probably City, when they led United by 19 points in 2018.

smutchin · « **Reply #1226 on:** February 2, 2020, 07:51:00 am »

Quote from: chemeddy on February 2, 2020, 04:21:15 am

Probably City, when they led United by 19 points in 2018.

Game 36. Sunday 29 April, City won away at West Ham in the 2.15 kick off, to take their lead to 21 points, before United beat Arsenal at home in the 4.30 kick off to claw it back to a mere 18.

Dr Stu-Pid · « **Reply #1227 on:** February 2, 2020, 06:02:59 pm »

This is all getting a bit silly now.

Period	LFC	% Pts Won	Old PL Best	Holder	Note
38 Game	108	94.7%	102	LIV	WTF
50 Game	137	91.3%	134	LIV
45 Game	122	90.4%	120	LIV
40 Game	110	91.7%	107	LIV	1x W to extend (112)
35 Game	101	96.2%	96	LIV	1x W to extend (103)
30 Game	88	97.8%	82	LIV
25 Game	73	97.3%	71	LIV
20 Game	58	96.7%	58	LIV & MC
15 Game	45	100%	45	LIV & MC
10 Game	30	100%	30	5 Teams

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #1228 on:** February 2, 2020, 06:23:34 pm »

JC the Messiah · « **Reply #1229 on:** February 2, 2020, 06:25:03 pm »

Quote from: timbo on February 1, 2020, 08:40:48 pm

This new stat😀 very specific about end of a day so presumably some team had 22 before but a late kick off clawed it back. Anyone know who? Or when?

22 points at the end of the day, weekend, whatever.

JC the Messiah · « **Reply #1230 on:** February 2, 2020, 06:25:24 pm »

KurtVerbose · « **Reply #1231 on:** February 2, 2020, 06:37:06 pm »

Based on current PPG we can win it in round 31 - Crystal Palace at home.

Schmidt · « **Reply #1232 on:** February 2, 2020, 06:37:12 pm »

Over half the table can't catch us any more.

farawayred · « **Reply #1233 on:** February 2, 2020, 06:38:32 pm »

Quote from: KurtVerbose on February 2, 2020, 06:37:06 pm

Based on current PPG we can win it in round 31 - Crystal Palace at home.

That's not ppg for all teams, that's ours only. It means that City will have to go for 3ppg until the end. Meh.

KurtVerbose · « **Reply #1234 on:** February 2, 2020, 06:44:31 pm »

Quote from: farawayred on February 2, 2020, 06:38:32 pm

That's not ppg for all teams, that's ours only. It means that City will have to go for 3ppg until the end. Meh.

Yes, that's what I'm calculating. It creeps down when they drop points with respecto to us.

johnny74 · « **Reply #1235 on:** February 2, 2020, 07:01:33 pm »

In reality probably 3-4 wins. I think it will happen at Anfield against Bournemouth on the 7th. I sense it.

Prof · « **Reply #1236 on:** February 2, 2020, 07:06:07 pm »

Suareznumber7 · « **Reply #1237 on:** February 2, 2020, 07:09:30 pm »

For fucks sake, we even have a 20 point lead in the aplt.

We are witnessing an all time great league campaign. One that’ll likely never be repeated again.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #1238 on:** February 2, 2020, 07:10:10 pm »

Mr_Shane · « **Reply #1239 on:** February 2, 2020, 07:43:23 pm »

Continue playing to par and we will get 102 points