Topic: Álisson Ramsés Becker

[Dr. Beaker]

I thought that the ball took a strange trajectory over the first half of it's journey. I blame the fucking ball - modern football bah!

[hesbighesred]

I thought that the ball took a strange trajectory over the first half of it's journey. I blame the fucking ball - modern football bah!

I will get mocked for saying this but it looked very much like a knuckleball to me - hardly span in the air at all. (but did move weirdly).

[Andy82lfc]

State of some 'fans' desperate to assign blame. I swear they believe the dog shit pundits more than our own manager, hang on every word they say then repeat it with certainty as someone in the big flashy box in the corner said it who other people know and like.   

[Dr. Beaker]

I will get mocked for saying this but it looked very much like a knuckleball to me - hardly span in the air at all. (but did move weirdly).

It reminded me of this Socrates goal - them arl spotted balls were shite as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkq4fVKzibY

[Dench57]

I will get mocked for saying this but it looked very much like a knuckleball to me - hardly span in the air at all. (but did move weirdly).

steady

[Sudden Death Draft Loser]

I will get mocked for saying this but it looked very much like a knuckleball to me - hardly span in the air at all. (but did move weirdly).

 

[Spanish Al]

Crazy how keepers get so heavily scrutinised nowadays, I blame Gary Neville and Sky for their weird and odd hatred of Karius during his first few months here. Everybody is desperate for Alisson to become a dud as well so any goal we ever concede people will look to blame him. It seems he is expected to save everything just because he cost a few quid.

The lad is boss, we're boss. My one complaint with him is he seems to have gone into his shell somewhat (maybe there wrong term but he is definitely a little more cautious now) after the Leicester error and isn't doing enough crazy shit like taking strikers on etc. Need more of that.

[CraigDS]

I think we’ll see more of it once he settles here and it becomes obvious to everyone just how good he is.

[rob1966]

While it might not be a knuckleball as seen in baseball, the definition fits in football, when the ball doesn't spin and moves about. I've been teaching my lad how to do it as, even with a size 3 ball, the amount of movement you get is ridiculous.

That shot the other night deffo isn't spinning much and did look like it moved late as it got to Allisson.

[rowan_d]

Crazy how keepers get so heavily scrutinised nowadays, I blame Gary Neville and Sky for their weird and odd hatred of Karius during his first few months here. Everybody is desperate for Alisson to become a dud as well so any goal we ever concede people will look to blame him. It seems he is expected to save everything just because he cost a few quid.

The lad is boss, we're boss. My one complaint with him is he seems to have gone into his shell somewhat (maybe there wrong term but he is definitely a little more cautious now) after the Leicester error and isn't doing enough crazy shit like taking strikers on etc. Need more of that.

The shark was jumped when Neville was dissecting Jagielka's last minute goal against us I think

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

He was brilliant. Kept us in the game. This would have been a frustrated draw if it wasn't for him.

[Gaz123456]

The best compliment I can give him is that he seems to have been around for ages.

A definite step up from what we've had for the last few seasons.

[lgvkarlos]

Definitely wanted to stick with Karius and thought 70m was to much.
  So happy with Alisson, he has made a massive difference to our team.
Have stopped the glue sniffing now.

[Mr_Shane]

He has contributed to us being more press resistant. I am more confident that we can play our way out of it now

[newterp]

The shot he spilled was a bit surprising.

[tubby]

The shot he spilled was a bit surprising.

Not sure it was, there was a lot of talk about his stats when we were linked with him and how everything was off the charts except for that fact that he often pushes the ball back into the middle of the box when making saves.  He's done it a few times already this season but we've not conceded off it so it's no biggie at the moment but I'm a bit worried it might cost us at some point.

Other than that he's doing all that could be expected of him.  I'm surprised at how easily he's adapted to crosses in the English game, doesn't seem at all fazed, just comes and gets them.

[Mr_Shane]

Not sure it was, there was a lot of talk about his stats when we were linked with him and how everything was off the charts except for that fact that he often pushes the ball back into the middle of the box when making saves.  He's done it a few times already this season but we've not conceded off it so it's no biggie at the moment but I'm a bit worried it might cost us at some point.

Other than that he's doing all that could be expected of him.  I'm surprised at how easily he's adapted to crosses in the English game, doesn't seem at all fazed, just comes and gets them.

Shades of Brucie. If Bruce was on his game, nothing would get past him. On the other hand Bruce was also capable of the unexplained odd gaffe, but Bruce was a character, mistakes never fazed him. Alisson is similar. What sort of person wears bright pink and bright orange jerserys when playing football 

[keyop]

7 clean sheets in his first 12 games in a new team and a new league. Great signing.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

5 goals conceded so far this season, same as City. That's some tittle winning defence.

[Keith Lard]

Our majestic Brazilian Number One

He's brilliant.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

He even wore a cap during the game, like he wasn't cool enough.

[s_andrews89]

Definitely wanted to stick with Karius and thought 70m was to much.
  So happy with Alisson, he has made a massive difference to our team.
Have stopped the glue sniffing now.

I was exactly the same. Man, I was wrong!

[Kansti]

He even wore a cap during the game, like he wasn't cool enough.

What he said

[PhilV]

Definitely wanted to stick with Karius and thought 70m was to much.
  So happy with Alisson, he has made a massive difference to our team.
Have stopped the glue sniffing now.

haha I was on the same boat my man.

So glad we have Alisson now, he has been fantastic since joining.

[AndyMuller]

Yeah he looked cool as fuck with that cap on in the second half.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

Not sure it was, there was a lot of talk about his stats when we were linked with him and how everything was off the charts except for that fact that he often pushes the ball back into the middle of the box when making saves.  He's done it a few times already this season but we've not conceded off it so it's no biggie at the moment but I'm a bit worried it might cost us at some point.

Other than that he's doing all that could be expected of him.  I'm surprised at how easily he's adapted to crosses in the English game, doesn't seem at all fazed, just comes and gets them.

Yeah, it's definitely a weakness of it, but given that it's probably his only one, I think we can live with it.

Definitely wanted to stick with Karius and thought 70m was to much.
  So happy with Alisson, he has made a massive difference to our team.
Have stopped the glue sniffing now.

Good to hear.

[Peabee]

7 clean sheets in his first 12 games in a new team and a new league. Great signing.

Wow. That also means he’s let in no more than one goal in each league game we have conceded.

[Peabee]

Crazy how keepers get so heavily scrutinised nowadays, I blame Gary Neville and Sky for their weird and odd hatred of Karius during his first few months here. Everybody is desperate for Alisson to become a dud as well so any goal we ever concede people will look to blame him. It seems he is expected to save everything just because he cost a few quid.

The lad is boss, we're boss. My one complaint with him is he seems to have gone into his shell somewhat (maybe there wrong term but he is definitely a little more cautious now) after the Leicester error and isn't doing enough crazy shit like taking strikers on etc. Need more of that.

I see it as a positive. He’s adapted to the league as he’s been put under more pressure when doing that here. He learned from his mistake. I think we’ll see a few dribbles, but only when it’s necessary.

[BarryCrocker]

Yeah he looked cool as fuck with that cap on in the second half.

For some reason he reminded me of Kevin Kline in A Fish Called Wanda.

[farawayred]

He even wore a cap during the game, like he wasn't cool enough.

A question for the old farts (who remember all keepers wearing hats). Suppose that an attacker beats Alisson and slides the ball toward the far corner. Alisson grabs the hat and throws it on the ball path, stopping the ball from going in the net. What would be the correct call by the referee?

Believe it or not, that had happened way back when!

[Dr. Beaker]

A question for the old farts (who remember all keepers wearing hats). Suppose that an attacker beats Alisson and slides the ball toward the far corner. Alisson grabs the hat and throws it on the ball path, stopping the ball from going in the net. What would be the correct call by the referee?

Believe it or not, that had happened way back when!

The other team would be awarded five runs.

[kavah]

^ ha ha

[Nessy76]

A question for the old farts (who remember all keepers wearing hats). Suppose that an attacker beats Alisson and slides the ball toward the far corner. Alisson grabs the hat and throws it on the ball path, stopping the ball from going in the net. What would be the correct call by the referee?

Believe it or not, that had happened way back when!

That would be a penalty for throwing an object at the ball.

[So… Howard Philips]

That would be a penalty for throwing an object at the ball.

But if it's a beach ball does Catch 22 apply?

[farawayred]

That would be a penalty for throwing an object at the ball.

Not really. Any foreign object is treated as an extension of the arm. So if a player takes the hat off the keeper and throws it at the ball (I can't believe that's a real case), then it's a penalty. But the keeper is allowed to use his hands. The correct decision would be an indirect free kick as in the case of a back-pass.

[farawayred]

But if it's a beach ball does Catch 22 apply?

That beach ball incident should have been a drop ball.

Are we the only team to ever concede a goal from a beach ball?

[Nessy76]

Not really. Any foreign object is treated as an extension of the arm. So if a player takes the hat off the keeper and throws it at the ball (I can't believe that's a real case), then it's a penalty. But the keeper is allowed to use his hands. The correct decision would be an indirect free kick as in the case of a back-pass.

Throwing an object at the ball is a direct free kick. (Laws of the game). If it is in the area, that's a definite pen.

The beach ball was a fuck up, but it wasn't thrown by a player, so different situations.

[capt k]

The beach ball was a fuck up, but it wasn't thrown by a player, so different situations.

and who recalls fat heads mocking of Rafa?..if  you knew that rule, youre a  person that I find irritating"{well maybe not person that I find irritating, but along the lines}

[Hazell]

and who recalls fat heads mocking of Rafa?..if  you knew that rule, youre a  person that I find irritating"{well maybe not person that I find irritating, but along the lines}

And then whinging about Kuyt's goal against Sunderland the next season. That was pretty funny (not so much the result).

[farawayred]

Throwing an object at the ball is a direct free kick. (Laws of the game). If it is in the area, that's a definite pen.

It is not. It depends if the keeper throws it or an outfield player throws it. the difference comes from the fact that any foreign object is considered "an extension of the arm" and the keeper can use his arms. An outfield player would also get a red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity, but the keeper would only get a yellow for unsporting behavior.