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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24520 on: March 1, 2019, 01:25:33 pm »
I once wore something that used the the distributor cap from a Ford Mondeo, but that's another story.

Sounds a bit inconsistent.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24521 on: March 1, 2019, 01:29:25 pm »
I wonder if there’s any commercial deal going Puma’s way via one of the City owners’s companies. That’s nearly as big as the United deal...
do puma have any new commercial bases in the Middle East that are in Abu Dhabi?

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24522 on: March 1, 2019, 03:15:44 pm »
I wonder if there’s any commercial deal going Puma’s way via one of the City owners’s companies. That’s nearly as big as the United deal...

In the case of City, their owners and their corrupted set up you don't need any details to know that the deal will have only a partial basis in potential kit sales, being little more than a further cheating ploy to bypass FFP.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24523 on: March 1, 2019, 10:36:18 pm »
do puma have any new commercial bases in the Middle East that are in Abu Dhabi?

A nice free HQ maybe?  Wouldn’t be surprised. It’d be a good way around FFP. Lease it below MV etc
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24524 on: March 1, 2019, 10:38:46 pm »
In the case of City, their owners and their corrupted set up you don't need any details to know that the deal will have only a partial basis in potential kit sales, being little more than a further cheating ploy to bypass FFP.

No doubt. There’ll be something going on. That’s a ridiculous deal for a club who’ve just won a few PLs. United are a global behemoth and they’ve only earned an extra £10m per year from a much larger sports company.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24525 on: March 1, 2019, 10:59:26 pm »
No doubt. There’ll be something going on. That’s a ridiculous deal for a club who’ve just won a few PLs. United are a global behemoth and they’ve only earned an extra £10m per year from a much larger sports company.

Absolutely. It fucking stinks. Like everything else surrounding that club in its modern guise. What was once a fantastic football club - I could rattle off the entire Joe mercer/Malcolm Allison late '60's side in my sleep and purr about them with immense unending admiration - is now the joint most unpalatable stain on the entire modern game along with PSG and fucking China.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24526 on: March 1, 2019, 11:01:19 pm »
Latest Spiegel.de article on Corrupt FC:

Man City Accused of Using Shadow Firms to Flout Rules

Football Leaks documents outline how Manchester City's owners may have used a surreptitious company in the Cayman Islands to conceal a player investment fund. The team has been accused of violating UEFA spending rules.

It was Nov. 6, 2018, and Pep Guardiola was sitting behind a UEFA podium to answer reporters' questions about accusations that had been leveled against his club, Manchester City. The Spanish-born coach shook his head, scratched his ear and shrugged his shoulders.

"Believe me," Guardiola said, "I don't know what happened because I'm a manager." He said he was unable to contribute anything to the discussion about whether his club had violated UEFA rules. "Of course we want to follow the rules of UEFA, FIFA, the Premier League," Guardiola said. But who exactly he meant by "we" was unclear. He couldn't have been talking about Manchester City's leadership -- they seem to have been disregarding the rules for years.

The most important weeks of the year are beginning for Manchester City. From a sporting perspective, the team is in fine shape. Last weekend, they secured the league cup, their first title of the season. After a brief period of shaky form, Manchester City now finds itself on top of the Premier League table along with Liverpool. In the Champions League, meanwhile, even a narrow defeat in the second-leg, round-of-16 match against Schalke 04 would be enough to advance. And the team could also win the FA Cup.

Possible Exclusion

Off the field, however, the club's leadership is under serious pressure. Due to rules violations, the club finds itself facing expulsion from the Champions League. Revelations made public at the end of last year by DER SPIEGEL exposed flagrant transgressions by Manchester City. The reports were based on internal documents from the club that were provided to DER SPIEGEL bythe whistleblower platform Football Leaks.

The European football association now wants to take a closer look at Manchester City once again. At the same time, there are additional revelations that shed light on the questionable conduct of the club's directors. If UEFA is serious about following through on the strict course announced by its president, Aleksander eferin, it has no choice but to impose tough sanctions against the Premier League titan.

Just how angry some of the association's investigators are that Manchester City evidently deceived them years ago is shown by the reaction of Yves Leterme, the head of UEFA's Investigatory Chamber. A former Belgian prime minister, Leterme said it would be a serious problem if DER SPIEGEL's reporting was confirmed: "This can lead to the heaviest punishment -- exclusion from UEFA competitions," he said.

No Matter What the Cost

In 2014, Manchester City reached a settlement with UEFA to avoid such a penalty. UEFA had discovered violations to its Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules, which prevent club owners from investing unlimited sums of money in their organizations -- a club is not allowed to spend significantly more than it earns. Since Manchester was bought by Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, though, the club hasn't made much of an effort to keep its strategy a secret. It has been trying to buy its way to the top of the football world by spending exorbitant sums of money on infrastructure and players -- no matter what the cost.

UEFA investigators didn't believe the club's assertions that certain sponsors from Abu Dhabi had no connection to the sheikh. They suspected that those companies were also utilized as surreptitious investment vehicles to inflate the club's revenues.

The club's boss, Khaldoon Al-Mubarak, said at the time that the settlement felt like little more than a tiny pinch and added that the team would continue pursuing its strategy. Considering the gravity of the accusations facing it, Al-Mubarak's club had gotten off extremely lightly.

A Special Construct

The documents provided by Football Leaks made it clear just how brazen Manchester City was willing to be. Beginning in 2012, the team devised a special construct to systematically circumvent FFP rules, with team executives outsourcing costs to other companies, effectively hiding them from UEFA auditors. If they spent more during a season than intended, they had their sponsors from Abu Dhabi increase the fees they paid to the team andbackdated the money transfers to the beginning of the season.

Manchester City has never publicly answered questions about the Football Leaks revelations. Instead, it always provides the same statement, which the club demands be printed in full: "We will not be providing any comment on out of context materials purported to have been hacked or stolen from City Football Group and Manchester City personnel and associated people. The attempt to damage the Club's reputation is organized and clear."

Manchester City CEO Ferran Soriano and Chairman Mubarak have remained silent about the accusations. As for the alleged financier himself, Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, a member of the Emirati royal family, has only attended one single Manchester City match in over 10 years of ownership. To celebrate championships, he has his picture taken with his relatives along with enormous cakes. Otherwise, he too remains silent.

A Bad Reputation

Meanwhile, Football Leaks documents now reveal the club apparently wasn't honest with England's football association, either. In summer 2014, the FA seemed to have got wind of a secret Manchester City project. Some months prior, Manchester City had set up a player investment fund aimed at buying shares of football players to make a profit. The practice is known as third-party ownership, or TPO, and it is practical for two reasons.

First, it would give the club some control over the career paths of promising talent. And second, investors would earn money each time the player is transfered because part of the transfer fee would go to shareholders.

Manchester City CEO Soriano tapped a Luxembourg-based company called Mangrove as his business partner. Soriano had founded a consulting firm with one of the company's executives, a Catalonian named Marc Ingla, back in 1993 and he had also worked with Ingla at FC Barcelona. Now, the former colleagues wanted to invest 30 million euros ($34.2 million) together in order to buy shares in up to 70 players from Latin America within 10 years.

But there was a problem: TPO had a bad reputation in the world of football and there was talk of it being a form of "modern-day slavery." Indeed, the practice had been banned within the Premier League. As such, the plan was that the investment fund "should be run separately but receives direction from the corporation CITY football," according to an internal document from October 2012.

A Potential Ban

The fact that football's global governing body also wanted to ban TPO -- which it finally did in 2015 -- didn't seem to bother Manchester City executives. "Clubs and funds are already looking for and trying alternative schemes to get around the potential ban," an internal paper reads. For Manchester City, this meant one thing: Money that flowed into the funds should simply not be traceable back to the club.

So lawyers answering to the Executive Affairs Authority of Abu Dhabi set up a discreet company in the Cayman Islands to serve as a vehicle for financing the fund. To this day, the head of this government agency is none other than Manchester City Chairman Mubarak.

In summer 2014, the club completed the transfer of a fund-financed player, the Argentinian Bruno Zuculini. He was to be contracted by Manchester City and then loaned out to other clubs in Europe. Manchester City, as required, informed the Premier League and England's football association that a company named MPI owned shares in Zuculini.

The league asked who was behind the company MPI, to which Manchester City lawyer Simon Cliff answered: "MPI is a fund ultimately controlled by a venture capital fund called Mangrove Capital Partners." And where did MPI get its money, the league asked? Cliff responded ingenuously: As far they knew, the money came from Mangrove's owners themselves. There was no word that Mangrove had established the fund together with Manchester City executives. There was no word, either, of a company set up for this fund in the Cayman Islands by the Abu Dhabi Executive Affairs Authority.

Not Much to Fear

Again, Manchester City didn't answer questions posed by the journalist network European Investigative Collaborations (EIC) but referred back to their boilerplate statement. Ingla, the Mangrove manager, said he wouldn't answer questions because they dealt with confidential contractual subject matter. Meanwhile, Ingla is now the managing director of the French first-division team OSC Lille.

The Premier League ultimately approved Zuculini's transfer. Manchester City loaned out the player to six clubs in three years, though he is now back playing in Argentina.

So far, the football associations have not used the material provided by Football Leaks for their own investigation. As long as that remains the case, Manchester City doesn't have much to fear. The holding company City Football Group announced last week that it had bought shares in a Chinese football club. It's the seventh club that now belongs to the international City brand.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/manchester-city-accused-of-using-shadow-firms-to-flout-rules-a-1255796-amp.html

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24527 on: March 1, 2019, 11:06:19 pm »
Spineless Uefa won’t be doing anything when there is brown envelopes available.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24528 on: March 2, 2019, 01:20:11 pm »

'Der Spiegel releases internal e-mails and documents from Manchester City regarding alleged inflated sponsorship contracts that allowed them to circumvent UEFA's Financial Fair Play'...

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/football-leaks-in-diesen-e-mails-plant-manchester-city-den-regelbruch-a-1255943.html


and another translation on here - https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/awho41/der_spiegel_releases_internal_emails_and/
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24529 on: March 2, 2019, 01:26:12 pm »
Are these new allegations on top of the ones from earlier on? There was a huge amount of speculation over the earlier ones which the footballing authorities where swearing something would be done. But then everything seemed to die down again. I would love to believe something would happen to them and PSG, but I don't have any faith to be honest. If they flouted the rules then they should be chucked out of next season's CL. Only way to truly punish them now.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24530 on: March 2, 2019, 06:21:35 pm »
I think there's a consensus on here that the media seem to be giving City more 'favourable' press than us, e.g. saying they are the best team in the universe, and we are just going to self-explode due to mounting pressures.

However, I gotta smile at the "still seeking an unprecedented quadruple" line that now seems to accompany every single City victory hahahaha

Nice one you media muppets!
Keep saying it! Love that Quadruple tag. Nice bit of added pressure on City?

The stupid thing is, even if City win the league...and that's hard enough as it is, due to us this year ;)   they've then got to GET to the FA Cup Final...and win it! Then GET to the Champions League Final...and win it!
Hahaha what a load of shit!

Still on for the quadruple though!!!!

I don't think any team will ever win the fecking quadruple...ever.
Any team that does will probably get knocked out in either of the domestic cups before that happens.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24531 on: March 2, 2019, 06:34:09 pm »
16 wins from there last 17 games, how long can they keep this up?

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24532 on: March 2, 2019, 06:36:04 pm »
'Der Spiegel releases internal e-mails and documents from Manchester City regarding alleged inflated sponsorship contracts that allowed them to circumvent UEFA's Financial Fair Play'...

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/football-leaks-in-diesen-e-mails-plant-manchester-city-den-regelbruch-a-1255943.html


and another translation on here - https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/awho41/der_spiegel_releases_internal_emails_and/

Holy fuck.

This is cheating on an enormous scale.

Don’t agre with FFP?  I get that, but they’ve baltently cheated the rules.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24533 on: March 2, 2019, 06:36:55 pm »
There is no point whatsoever in fining them as previously. The only thing that would be appropriate would be a 10 points deduction from their league total. All us fair minded people should lobby for this.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24534 on: March 2, 2019, 06:37:18 pm »
Holy fuck.

This is cheating on an enormous scale.

Don’t agre with FFP?  I get that, but they’ve baltently cheated the rules.

Are you so surprised, I can't say anything surprises me where this lot are concerned.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24535 on: March 2, 2019, 06:43:26 pm »
There is no point whatsoever in fining them as previously. The only thing that would be appropriate would be a 10 points deduction from their league total. All us fair minded people should lobby for this.

Nah fuck that. I don't want us to win the league by proxy because they got docked 10 points. Hit them in another way.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24536 on: March 2, 2019, 06:47:05 pm »
I think there's a consensus on here that the media seem to be giving City more 'favourable' press than us, e.g. saying they are the best team in the universe, and we are just going to self-explode due to mounting pressures.

However, I gotta smile at the "still seeking an unprecedented quadruple" line that now seems to accompany every single City victory hahahaha

Nice one you media muppets!
Keep saying it! Love that Quadruple tag. Nice bit of added pressure on City?

The stupid thing is, even if City win the league...and that's hard enough as it is, due to us this year ;)   they've then got to GET to the FA Cup Final...and win it! Then GET to the Champions League Final...and win it!
Hahaha what a load of shit!

Still on for the quadruple though!!!!

I don't think any team will ever win the fecking quadruple...ever.
Any team that does will probably get knocked out in either of the domestic cups before that happens.

They are still seeking a Quadruple though  ??? Until they get knocked out of one of the cups and cant catch us it's fair to mention it

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24537 on: March 2, 2019, 06:49:50 pm »
They are still seeking a Quadruple though  ??? Until they get knocked out of one of the cups and cant catch us it's fair to mention it
actually it’s a quintuple as they won the community shield

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24538 on: March 2, 2019, 06:53:27 pm »
16 wins from there last 17 games, how long can they keep this up?

Or 3 loses in there last 13 league games. Not counting playing Newport County, Burton, Rotherham or other cup dross. But whichever way people want to spin it I suppose.

We win tomorrow it’ll not be a nice feeling for them at all. Will demoralise them and I know Klopp will have the lads fired up like crazy.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24539 on: March 2, 2019, 06:55:55 pm »
actually it’s a quintuple as they won the community shield

It’d be hilarious if they just ended up with the league cup.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24540 on: March 2, 2019, 07:30:56 pm »
I rememeber when they were saying the same quadruple / quintuple shit about utd. Sky started mentioning it in like Oct / Nov. Load of utter bollocks.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24541 on: March 2, 2019, 07:35:19 pm »
They are still seeking a Quadruple though  ??? Until they get knocked out of one of the cups and cant catch us it's fair to mention it

Not really look at all those teams still in the CL its just completely arrogant to dismiss everyone else. Especially for a team who have never won it, never mind made the final.
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« Reply #24542 on: March 2, 2019, 07:52:51 pm »
Not really look at all those teams still in the CL its just completely arrogant to dismiss everyone else. Especially for a team who have never won it, never mind made the final.

Bizarrely they're massive favourites with all the bookmakers to win the CL. They've got them as big favourites for the PL too.

I think the quadruple is a long shot but they're probably in a better position than any other team in the past has been to pull it off, especially given how pathetic the teams left in the FA Cup are.

I don't mind all the quadruple talk to be honest, I think it suits us to pile the pressure on them.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24543 on: March 2, 2019, 08:05:23 pm »
Guardiola confirms that De Bruyne will be out "for a while." The injuries are starting to pile up but they really didn't miss him too much last time and have adequate cover in that position. Fernandinho and Laporte are the bigger worries but they have piss easy fixtures coming up so again it shouldn't trouble them all that much. Still, you never know though.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24544 on: March 2, 2019, 08:10:46 pm »
Aarghh.. nothing's going to happen with these. Football is corrupt at the higher levels. City can do what they want and it will be swept under the carpet.

At this point, they can order and execute hits and they're going to be protected by the very people whom they riling against. It's just an attempt to smear their good name, if you believe them. That will be the statement and it will remain there while everyone else looks the other way.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24545 on: March 2, 2019, 08:20:43 pm »
16 wins from there last 17 games, how long can they keep this up?
Not much longer! They are starting to run on empty. Might have all the possession but didn’t even have a shot on target in the first half today. The last 3 games they have scored 1 goal from open play and one of them went to extra time.  They are slowly losing their spark.  A big convincing win tomorrow and I really believe it could finally break them
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24546 on: March 2, 2019, 08:24:46 pm »
Mangala signs a contract extension.  ;D Guess he’ll be the first to that Chinese club then, probably for £80m.
to be fair he has an option for an extra year which they took up so somebody will pay, but it will be that Chinese club, to be honest fifa should just ban transactions between clubs with the same owners, will hurt Watford’s owners a bit but with the amount of pisstaking that can happen with city’s owners can now do is off the charts

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« Reply #24547 on: March 2, 2019, 08:40:52 pm »
Not much longer! They are starting to run on empty. Might have all the possession but didn’t even have a shot on target in the first half today. The last 3 games they have scored 1 goal from open play and one of them went to extra time.  They are slowly losing their spark.  A big convincing win tomorrow and I really believe it could finally break them
And more talk about Liverpool just hoping we slip up. At this point, it's about all they can do- talk about us incessantly, hoping we drop points and frantically grasping at any glimmer of hope. Instead of concentrating on themselves, getting their heads down and work for their meal, they resort to low-life tactics. A pickpocket will always throw you off first and then go for the pocket when you're not looking.

We've got a manager though, who doesn't really bother with mindgames. Supremely confident and focussed and appear to not be fazed at all. He lives and lets live.
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In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24548 on: March 3, 2019, 03:26:58 am »
Holy fuck.

This is cheating on an enormous scale.

Don’t agre with FFP?  I get that, but they’ve baltently cheated the rules.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24549 on: March 3, 2019, 08:39:12 pm »
It’s worse than that

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It was Nov. 6, 2018, and Pep Guardiola was sitting behind a UEFA podium to answer reporters' questions about accusations that had been leveled against his club, Manchester City. The Spanish-born coach shook his head, scratched his ear and shrugged his shoulders.

"Believe me," Guardiola said, "I don't know what happened because I'm a manager." He said he was unable to contribute anything to the discussion about whether his club had violated UEFA rules. "Of course we want to follow the rules of UEFA, FIFA, the Premier League," Guardiola said. But who exactly he meant by "we" was unclear. He couldn't have been talking about Manchester City's leadership -- they seem to have been disregarding the rules for years.

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The most important weeks of the year are beginning for Manchester City. From a sporting perspective, the team is in fine shape. Last weekend, they secured the league cup, their first title of the season. After a brief period of shaky form, Manchester City now finds itself on top of the Premier League table along with Liverpool. In the Champions League, meanwhile, even a narrow defeat in the second-leg, round-of-16 match against Schalke 04 would be enough to advance. And the team could also win the FA Cup.

Possible Exclusion

Off the field, however, the club's leadership is under serious pressure. Due to rules violations, the club finds itself facing expulsion from the Champions League. Revelations made public at the end of last year by DER SPIEGEL exposed flagrant transgressions by Manchester City. The reports were based on internal documents from the club that were provided to DER SPIEGEL bythe whistleblower platform Football Leaks.

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The European football association now wants to take a closer look at Manchester City once again. At the same time, there are additional revelations that shed light on the questionable conduct of the club's directors. If UEFA is serious about following through on the strict course announced by its president, Aleksander eferin, it has no choice but to impose tough sanctions against the Premier League titan.

Just how angry some of the association's investigators are that Manchester City evidently deceived them years ago is shown by the reaction of Yves Leterme, the head of UEFA's Investigatory Chamber. A former Belgian prime minister, Leterme said it would be a serious problem if DER SPIEGEL's reporting was confirmed: "This can lead to the heaviest punishment -- exclusion from UEFA competitions," he said.

No Matter What the Cost

In 2014, Manchester City reached a settlement with UEFA to avoid such a penalty. UEFA had discovered violations to its Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules, which prevent club owners from investing unlimited sums of money in their organizations -- a club is not allowed to spend significantly more than it earns. Since Manchester was bought by Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, though, the club hasn't made much of an effort to keep its strategy a secret. It has been trying to buy its way to the top of the football world by spending exorbitant sums of money on infrastructure and players -- no matter what the cost.

UEFA investigators didn't believe the club's assertions that certain sponsors from Abu Dhabi had no connection to the sheikh. They suspected that those companies were also utilized as surreptitious investment vehicles to inflate the club's revenues.

The club's boss, Khaldoon Al-Mubarak, said at the time that the settlement felt like little more than a tiny pinch and added that the team would continue pursuing its strategy. Considering the gravity of the accusations facing it, Al-Mubarak's club had gotten off extremely lightly.

A Special Construct

The documents provided by Football Leaks made it clear just how brazen Manchester City was willing to be. Beginning in 2012, the team devised a special construct to systematically circumvent FFP rules, with team executives outsourcing costs to other companies, effectively hiding them from UEFA auditors. If they spent more during a season than intended, they had their sponsors from Abu Dhabi increase the fees they paid to the team andbackdated the money transfers to the beginning of the season.

Manchester City has never publicly answered questions about the Football Leaks revelations. Instead, it always provides the same statement, which the club demands be printed in full: "We will not be providing any comment on out of context materials purported to have been hacked or stolen from City Football Group and Manchester City personnel and associated people. The attempt to damage the Club's reputation is organized and clear."

Manchester City CEO Ferran Soriano and Chairman Mubarak have remained silent about the accusations. As for the alleged financier himself, Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, a member of the Emirati royal family, has only attended one single Manchester City match in over 10 years of ownership. To celebrate championships, he has his picture taken with his relatives along with enormous cakes. Otherwise, he too remains silent.

A Bad Reputation

Meanwhile, Football Leaks documents now reveal the club apparently wasn't honest with England's football association, either. In summer 2014, the FA seemed to have got wind of a secret Manchester City project. Some months prior, Manchester City had set up a player investment fund aimed at buying shares of football players to make a profit. The practice is known as third-party ownership, or TPO, and it is practical for two reasons.

First, it would give the club some control over the career paths of promising talent. And second, investors would earn money each time the player is transfered because part of the transfer fee would go to shareholders.

Manchester City CEO Soriano tapped a Luxembourg-based company called Mangrove as his business partner. Soriano had founded a consulting firm with one of the company's executives, a Catalonian named Marc Ingla, back in 1993 and he had also worked with Ingla at FC Barcelona. Now, the former colleagues wanted to invest 30 million euros ($34.2 million) together in order to buy shares in up to 70 players from Latin America within 10 years.

But there was a problem: TPO had a bad reputation in the world of football and there was talk of it being a form of "modern-day slavery." Indeed, the practice had been banned within the Premier League. As such, the plan was that the investment fund "should be run separately but receives direction from the corporation CITY football," according to an internal document from October 2012.

A Potential Ban

The fact that football's global governing body also wanted to ban TPO -- which it finally did in 2015 -- didn't seem to bother Manchester City executives. "Clubs and funds are already looking for and trying alternative schemes to get around the potential ban," an internal paper reads. For Manchester City, this meant one thing: Money that flowed into the funds should simply not be traceable back to the club.

So lawyers answering to the Executive Affairs Authority of Abu Dhabi set up a discreet company in the Cayman Islands to serve as a vehicle for financing the fund. To this day, the head of this government agency is none other than Manchester City Chairman Mubarak.

In summer 2014, the club completed the transfer of a fund-financed player, the Argentinian Bruno Zuculini. He was to be contracted by Manchester City and then loaned out to other clubs in Europe. Manchester City, as required, informed the Premier League and England's football association that a company named MPI owned shares in Zuculini.

The league asked who was behind the company MPI, to which Manchester City lawyer Simon Cliff answered: "MPI is a fund ultimately controlled by a venture capital fund called Mangrove Capital Partners." And where did MPI get its money, the league asked? Cliff responded ingenuously: As far they knew, the money came from Mangrove's owners themselves. There was no word that Mangrove had established the fund together with Manchester City executives. There was no word, either, of a company set up for this fund in the Cayman Islands by the Abu Dhabi Executive Affairs Authority.

Not Much to Fear

Again, Manchester City didn't answer questions posed by the journalist network European Investigative Collaborations (EIC) but referred back to their boilerplate statement. Ingla, the Mangrove manager, said he wouldn't answer questions because they dealt with confidential contractual subject matter. Meanwhile, Ingla is now the managing director of the French first-division team OSC Lille.

The Premier League ultimately approved Zuculini's transfer. Manchester City loaned out the player to six clubs in three years, though he is now back playing in Argentina.

So far, the football associations have not used the material provided by Football Leaks for their own investigation. As long as that remains the case, Manchester City doesn't have much to fear. The holding company City Football Group announced last week that it had bought shares in a Chinese football club. It's the seventh club that now belongs to the international City brand
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24550 on: March 3, 2019, 08:58:05 pm »
Wonder if there'll be as much glee that Liverpool haven't won it when City have won a few in a row and become the Premier League's Bayern-Death-Munich-Star.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24551 on: March 3, 2019, 09:15:42 pm »
Wonder if there'll be as much glee that Liverpool haven't won it when City have won a few in a row and become the Premier League's Bayern-Death-Munich-Star.

If we don’t win it (or the Champions League) it will almost (probably not) be worth seeing them win all 4 just to see how funny it is for United fans (and others) then.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24552 on: March 3, 2019, 10:24:00 pm »
It’s worse than that
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/manchester-city-accused-of-using-shadow-firms-to-flout-rules-a-1255796.html
if the authorities don’t look they’ll act it’ll be interesting to see how the clubs react, can remember when the rangers thing happened a large part of the reason why they ended up in the bottom tier instead of the second tier was fan pressure

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24553 on: March 3, 2019, 10:27:12 pm »
Is there any other stuff due to come out about this? They seem to be going quiet and then pulling more out every few months.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24554 on: March 4, 2019, 08:43:29 am »
Unfortunately most people don't give a shit because they're the only team who will stop us from winning the league. Their cheating and corruption could be widespread and all over the news but people will still brush it under the carpet because apparently some of our fans are a bit annoying ::)
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24555 on: March 4, 2019, 09:02:32 am »
Unfortunately most people don't give a shit because they're the only team who will stop us from winning the league. Their cheating and corruption wculd be widespread and all over the news but people will still brush it under the kit because apparently some of our fans are a bit annoying ::)

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24556 on: March 4, 2019, 10:31:45 am »
When they lose their local derby, our two draws against Everton and ManUtd suddenly look fantastic 8)
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24557 on: March 4, 2019, 11:06:08 am »
When they lose their local derby, our two draws against Everton and ManUtd suddenly look fantastic 8)

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24558 on: March 4, 2019, 11:09:16 am »
One reason I think they aren’t held accountable is fear. Who wants to take on a vicious, corrupt, violent, moneyed absolute monarchy that has global influence? Anyways, a couple of phone calls to Her Majesty’s offices or whatever and I’m sure our FA would be advised to maintain peace with an important diplomatic and trade partner—if it ever even got to that stage. Same thing at UEFA and FIFA levels.

But here’s hoping I am wrong.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #24559 on: March 4, 2019, 11:58:38 am »
Unfortunately most people don't give a shit because they're the only team who will stop us from winning the league. Their cheating and corruption could be widespread and all over the news but people will still brush it under the carpet because apparently some of our fans are a bit annoying ::)

You are taking it too personally. The neutrals' reason to want a Manchester City win is that football supporting is mostly misery most of the time, and them winning increases the overall amount of pain in football, thereby relatively diminishing one's own.  Yous lot will be fucking ecstatic at winning the league, while another oil funded title will hardly cheer the spoilt mancs at all. 

Leicester was an exception to this, because their fluke depressed some big club fans (ha ha spurs) and gives years of false hope to a load of middling clubs.
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