Topic: Harry Maguire considering his options thread

[tubby]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work. it's hard to project how putting these guys from a team that's essentially on fire into a winning machine under the best coach in the world would go. Martial I think would be a beast under Klopp

I'm not sure Martial has the workrate for a Klopp team, I'd think Rashford would be more suited.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work. it's hard to project how putting these guys from a team that's essentially on fire into a winning machine under the best coach in the world would go. Martial I think would be a beast under Klopp

Maguire isn't better than Matip. and Martial wouldn't displace anyone in the side either.

[Nobby Reserve]

ESPN taking tips from the Echo on picking a combined team.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work. it's hard to project how putting these guys from a team that's essentially on fire into a winning machine under the best coach in the world would go. Martial I think would be a beast under Klopp

A purple wheelie bin would get picked ahead of McGuire

[Fiasco]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work. it's hard to project how putting these guys from a team that's essentially on fire into a winning machine under the best coach in the world would go. Martial I think would be a beast under Klopp

Absolutely no chance Maguire or Pogba would be first choice in a Klopp side. I can think of a few United players who might shine under Klopp but those 2 aren't close.


Agree on Martial though, I think he'd go up a level.

[Kopenhagen]

Klopp would work wonders with Rashford.

Martial's mentality wouldn't be up to scratch; he'd be sold. Pogba would be similar probably.

Maguire wouldn't start next to Van Dijk over Gomez or Matip. He'd get in ahead of Lovren.

[Chakan]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work. it's hard to project how putting these guys from a team that's essentially on fire into a winning machine under the best coach in the world would go. Martial I think would be a beast under Klopp

that's ridiculous and you know it.

Pogba has the work rate of roadkill, he'd be useless in a Klopp team. Martial would be a good addition to come on when someone gets tired.

[Kopenhagen]

Eric Bailly rewarded with a new contract. He's earned it.

[tonysleft]

True I forgot Gomez existed with the injuries. That and I tend to dodge your games nowadays because you just win. He's a lot better than Maguire on peak form. Think Maguire on form prob gets in ahead of Matip

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

True I forgot Gomez existed with the injuries. That and I tend to dodge your games nowadays because you just win. He's a lot better than Maguire on peak form. Think Maguire on form prob gets in ahead of Matip

Not sure that's the case. Matip was half of a CL winning CB partnership, who also hoovered up 97 points over a league season.

Maguire by comparison has merely looked good in a decent Leicester side, and has been alright for you, apart from at least 3 awful mistakes that I've seen this season.

Not really having that its all Van Dijk, if you watch Matip, he's a very very good player who is solid at the back and useful on his occasional mazy runs forward.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

True I forgot Gomez existed with the injuries. That and I tend to dodge your games nowadays because you just win. He's a lot better than Maguire on peak form. Think Maguire on form prob gets in ahead of Matip

[CraigDS]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work.

Neither would get in the side. Maguire is not good enough on the ball and Pogba just doesn't work enough and never has - he's also not tactically disciplined enough.

[MJD-L4]

Think Maguire on form prob gets in ahead of Matip

[slaphead]

Neither would get in the side. Maguire is not good enough on the ball and Pogba just doesn't work enough and never has - he's also not tactically disciplined enough.

I agree Craig. Yet weirdly the media have him down as this amazing ball playing centre half who brings the ball out of defense and can pass. Maguire seems to believe it too, yet any time I've watched him, his ball distribution is dreadful.
Maybe I'm wrong Tony and you can correct me, but he seems to try a lot of 30/40/50 yard passes to Rashford, and most without success. Around Christmas there was a game where I counted 6 in the first half of a game, and only 1 was a good pass.

[FlashGordon]

Matip is the best ball playing centre back in the league. Only rivalled by Joe, Virgil and Laporte when he's fit. Maguire is a laughable shout.

[Barneylfc∗]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work. it's hard to project how putting these guys from a team that's essentially on fire into a winning machine under the best coach in the world would go. Martial I think would be a beast under Klopp

Maguire isnt better than any of our other 3 centre backs. You'll get people arguing he's better than Lovren because it's fashionable to dislike Lovren, but Lovren is better than Maguire.

[Chakan]

I agree Craig. Yet weirdly the media have him down as this amazing ball playing centre half who brings the ball out of defense and can pass. Maguire seems to believe it too, yet any time I've watched him, his ball distribution is dreadful.
Maybe I'm wrong Tony and you can correct me, but he seems to try a lot of 30/40/50 yard passes to Rashford, and most without success. Around Christmas there was a game where I counted 6 in the first half of a game, and only 1 was a good pass.

It's the "emperor has no clothes" syndrome, everyone says one thing, repeat it enough times and the masses believe it.

Plus with his price tag, he must be good, right ? Right?

[vivabobbygraham]

Maguire isnt better than any of our other 3 centre backs. You'll get people arguing he's better than Lovren because it's fashionable to dislike Lovren, but Lovren is better than Maguire.

...By a country mile

[Yevgeny]

Maguire would be an atrocity in our high line with all that space to defend. He doesn’t have the pace for it. He’d be a liability for any team that wanted to play with a high defensive line. He’s a good player in the right setup but I don’t think he’s good enough for a top side that’s expected to play on the front foot and win every game. Matip and Gomez have a proven ability to play high up the pitch and look good doing it. Recovery pace is obviously key.

Also, the people putting Rashford in ahead of Mo need their heads examined. If Ingsy played for Utd they’d all putting him in their combined XI ahead of Bobby too.

[rob1966]

Maguire and Rashford over Salah 

It's like these people don't even watch football.

They watch Utd, so they don't.

Maguire isnt better than any of our other 3 centre backs. You'll get people arguing he's better than Lovren because it's fashionable to dislike Lovren, but Lovren is better than Maguire.

Maguire is shite, they've a better CB out on loan.

[Chakan]

They watch Utd, so they don't.

Fair point!

[slaphead]

It's the "emperor has no clothes" syndrome, everyone says one thing, repeat it enough times and the masses believe it.

Plus with his price tag, he must be good, right ? Right?

Yep.....and no 
On the repeat it enough and the masses believe it though, that's so right and bloody annoying and all, but when it's an English player, its relentless bullox.
With his surname, he must have some of the good old Irish blood in him. When they dig and find out he's really one of my lot, they'll slow it down 

[Clint Eastwood]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work. it's hard to project how putting these guys from a team that's essentially on fire into a winning machine under the best coach in the world would go. Martial I think would be a beast under Klopp

Absolutely not. Gomez and Matip are better on the ball, faster, and just generally better for our side than Maguire. We won the European Cup with those two, and they’ve been part of the best defence in the league for the past year and a half. Maguire can battle with Lovren for 4th choice, even then I’d rather Dejan.

[arthur sarnoff]

Maguire trying to play in a defensive line as high as ours would be a disaster.

[an fear dearg]

I agree Craig. Yet weirdly the media have him down as this amazing ball playing centre half who brings the ball out of defense and can pass. Maguire seems to believe it too, yet any time I've watched him, his ball distribution is dreadful.
Maybe I'm wrong Tony and you can correct me, but he seems to try a lot of 30/40/50 yard passes to Rashford, and most without success. Around Christmas there was a game where I counted 6 in the first half of a game, and only 1 was a good pass.

Maguire has been caught up about his ball playing abilities in the same hysteria that created the notion that T-Rex has great distribution with his feet. English player makes a few good passes then all of a sudden he’s Beckenbauer reborn....Maguire has a slab for a forehead....that’s his main attribute and if he was breast feeding a shovel, with a hi-viz on, in a hole in the street then he’d be at his level....

[Gili Gulu]

Maguire is handy to have in the PL because of his heading ability, where goals from corners and free-kicks are vital. But we've already got Virgil whose better at everything else as well. We don't need another player who's dominant in the air, and we've got other centre-halves who are quicker and at least as good with the ball.

Gomez followed by Matip are our best partners, as Virgil does not need to constantly keep an eye out and sweep behind a slower partner and he can concentrate fully on his own job. If he was playing alongside Maguire he constantly have to worry about the ball either going over Maguire's head or being played past him.

[RedSince86]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work. it's hard to project how putting these guys from a team that's essentially on fire into a winning machine under the best coach in the world would go. Martial I think would be a beast under Klopp

No way would Maguire play in our high line, to slow and turns like a tugboat

Gomez and Matip are far superior defenders, Lovren he could replace as #4.

Pogba doesn't have the workrate or effort to bust a gut under Klopp.

Martial maybe 2 years ago he would be in the conversation but injuries have made him regress, he wouldn't dislodged anyone on our front 3, again he would be a squad player like Maguire.

[reddebs]

I've not been on the caf the last couple of days, are they getting cock bollocks giddy about how they're going to beat us on Sunday?

They've been even more Evertonised than I thought.

[El Lobo]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work. it's hard to project how putting these guys from a team that's essentially on fire into a winning machine under the best coach in the world would go. Martial I think would be a beast under Klopp

I think Maguire would maybe be 4th choice, at a stretch, under Klopp.

[lobsterboy]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work. it's hard to project how putting these guys from a team that's essentially on fire into a winning machine under the best coach in the world would go. Martial I think would be a beast under Klopp

hah hah, give your head a wobble, both Gomez and Matip are far better.

The only reason Maguire is rated is because he's english.

https://twitter.com/BnsComps/status/1212512587977515008

Martial might get on the bench though.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Maguire is handy to have in the PL because of his heading ability, where goals from corners and free-kicks are vital. But we've already got Virgil whose better at everything else as well. We don't need another player who's dominant in the air, and we've got other centre-halves who are quicker and at least as good with the ball.

Gomez followed by Matip are our best partners, as Virgil does not need to constantly keep an eye out and sweep behind a slower partner and he can concentrate fully on his own job. If he was playing alongside Maguire he constantly have to worry about the ball either going over Maguire's head or being played past him.

He hasn't scored a goal for them.

[Hazell]

Matip is the best ball playing centre back in the league. Only rivalled by Joe, Virgil and Laporte when he's fit. Maguire is a laughable shout.

I was searching for a word that would best describe the idea of Maguire getting into our side and yeah, 'laughable' is it. I think tony knows it too but just tossed this grenade in there for everyone to bite.

I agree Craig. Yet weirdly the media have him down as this amazing ball playing centre half who brings the ball out of defense and can pass. Maguire seems to believe it too, yet any time I've watched him, his ball distribution is dreadful.
Maybe I'm wrong Tony and you can correct me, but he seems to try a lot of 30/40/50 yard passes to Rashford, and most without success. Around Christmas there was a game where I counted 6 in the first half of a game, and only 1 was a good pass.

His ball playing is definitely overrated. One thing I will say is that he's extremely confident when he has possession and that sometimes goes some way to allowing him to carry the ball forward. But I watched him against Arsenal (the Aha game) and one thing that struck me is how slow he is in terms of moving the ball and getting it out of his feet and that allowed Arsenal to move further forward and press him and it put Man Utd on the back foot. And he was shite in his use of the ball too. More of that on Sunday please Harry.

[Anfield Kopite]

I've not been on the caf the last couple of days, are they getting cock bollocks giddy about how they're going to beat us on Sunday?

They've been even more Evertonised than I thought.

I've had a peep. To be fair to them the penny seems to have dropped. Most think we will win and a few expect us to hammer them.

[Lycan]

I think Maguire would probably start beside VVD under Klopp. Pogba too if he could work. it's hard to project how putting these guys from a team that's essentially on fire into a winning machine under the best coach in the world would go. Martial I think would be a beast under Klopp

No chance.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

His ball playing is definitely overrated. One thing I will say is that he's extremely confident when he has possession and that sometimes goes some way to allowing him to carry the ball forward. But I watched him against Arsenal (the Aha game) and one thing that struck me is how slow he is in terms of moving the ball and getting it out of his feet and that allowed Arsenal to move further forward and press him and it put Man Utd on the back foot. And he was shite in his use of the ball too. More of that on Sunday please Harry.

He has the turning circle and stopping speed of an oil tanker.

[Red-Soldier]

Fair play to Tony for still posting on here during these troubled times 

[reddebs]

I've had a peep. To be fair to them the penny seems to have dropped. Most think we will win and a few expect us to hammer them.

Damn I thought they'd still be in the denial phase.  Ah well accepting their fate means their expectations are at rock bottom but not sure if that helps or hinders us.

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[Ghost Town]

Fair play to Tony for still posting on here during these troubled times 

Esp. as he keeps announcing he's not a member any longer

[rob1966]

I've not been on the caf the last couple of days, are they getting cock bollocks giddy about how they're going to beat us on Sunday?

They've been even more Evertonised than I thought.

I've had the "only team to take points off you" at work this week - I just laughed and said no-one will give a shit when Hendo lifts that shiny trophy

[reddebs]

I've had the "only team to take points off you" at work this week - I just laughed and said no-one will give a shit when Hendo lifts that shiny trophy

3 points is all I'm bothered about on Sunday but christ almighty I hope we give them an absolute pasting in the process.