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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #80 on: February 8, 2013, 12:25:24 pm »
I loved the Playstation, and Playstation 2, but I always got the feeling Sony were trying to fuck me over when I bought their products. All the accessories were pretty extortionate, all the memory was proprietary. I know they're losing money like mad, but you don't win many friends by trying to squeeze your owner base for every red cent.

The PS3 really should've wiped the floor with the 360, Blu-Ray built in, free online service, etc. I just hope they right these wrongs for the next gen.

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #81 on: February 8, 2013, 05:57:48 pm »
$400=£400

Which is weird because 599 usd equaled 425 gbp when ps3 launched

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #82 on: February 8, 2013, 07:31:50 pm »
Hope its backward compatible to the PS2.

They can probably make it do that with a small chip to replicate the ps2, or via emulation.

I can't see it being backwards compatible with the PS3, I don't think that's possible.
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #83 on: February 8, 2013, 07:32:14 pm »
Which is weird because 599 usd equaled 425 gbp when ps3 launched

They had to drop the price because it was six months later :)
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #84 on: February 8, 2013, 07:45:59 pm »
They had to drop the price because it was six months later :)

It was always retailing at 425. I had it pre-ordered at that price well before it launched in america and when it was due to release in EU in November 06 and then got pushed back to March 07.


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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #85 on: February 8, 2013, 07:50:52 pm »
They can probably make it do that with a small chip to replicate the ps2, or via emulation.

I can't see it being backwards compatible with the PS3, I don't think that's possible.
Really? That's a huge disappointment for me if true.Thought of getting this so I don't have to buy a PS3.
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #86 on: February 8, 2013, 08:17:10 pm »
two different types of processor architecture, cell and X86

which means they either build in cell, they won't, or they emulate, which even high end pcs can barely manage

unless they can come up with something like WINE for linux i can't see it happening, they won't
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Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #87 on: February 8, 2013, 08:45:51 pm »
What about if they used Gaikai, would it be possible to play older titles through that? 


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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #88 on: February 8, 2013, 08:48:49 pm »
of course, provided you've a good internet connection and near to a server it would probably be ok

they have to have bought it for a reason
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #89 on: February 9, 2013, 02:41:28 am »
Won't see it backwards compatible with PS2, too many HD remakes cash devs would lose out on.
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #90 on: February 9, 2013, 03:01:31 am »
two different types of processor architecture, cell and X86

which means they either build in cell, they won't, or they emulate, which even high end pcs can barely manage

unless they can come up with something like WINE for linux i can't see it happening, they won't

Emulating on a PC is miles apart from something Sony could develop for their own system.
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #91 on: February 9, 2013, 09:09:22 am »
the ps4 will be a pc
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #92 on: February 9, 2013, 12:20:09 pm »
was discussing this last night. imagine if ps4 is brought out earlier than expected and then gta 5 is delayed and brought out afterwards. what a waste of a gta. read last week that the ps4 will be dated by the time it comes out because of new processors etc. this steambox could be a rival if they got it out
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #93 on: February 9, 2013, 09:29:58 pm »
was discussing this last night. imagine if ps4 is brought out earlier than expected and then gta 5 is delayed and brought out afterwards. what a waste of a gta. read last week that the ps4 will be dated by the time it comes out because of new processors etc. this steambox could be a rival if they got it out

Nah, PS4 won't make it out before September in US or Europe IMO.

And if GTA V is great, it doesn't matter what console it's on.

Do like me, enjoy GTAV on current gen, then pray they make Red Dead Rwhatever on PS4/Xbox 720 for the same time 2014 (by which time I'll just be getting tired of GTAV...well, probably not actually, considering the likelihood of DLC...)

Steambox will certainly be interesting.
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #94 on: February 9, 2013, 09:39:01 pm »
was discussing this last night. imagine if ps4 is brought out earlier than expected and then gta 5 is delayed and brought out afterwards. what a waste of a gta. read last week that the ps4 will be dated by the time it comes out because of new processors etc. this steambox could be a rival if they got it out

Many of the best PS2 games were released when we had next generation consoles.

God Of War, Shadow of The Colossus etc.
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #95 on: February 9, 2013, 11:15:34 pm »
yeah i remember holding onto my ps2 for about a year to 18 months after i got my ps3
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #96 on: February 10, 2013, 10:34:02 am »
Many of the best PS2 games were released when we had next generation consoles.

God Of War, Shadow of The Colossus etc.
Yep. Also Okami, GoW 2 , Persona 3 and 4 etc.
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #97 on: February 10, 2013, 07:00:24 pm »
i want ea to at least get a fifa ready for release. scored a massive owngoal last time. it came out in march and we had to wait till october to get the first ps3 fifa. yeah its relevant for a few months but people like me would buy it
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #98 on: February 10, 2013, 08:50:36 pm »
people like me would buy it

Yep, FIFA players will buy the same game, year in, year out, it's amazing really when it's essentially exactly the same game with different skins. They'd be stupid not to take your money!
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #99 on: February 11, 2013, 01:26:00 am »
i want ea to at least get a fifa ready for release. scored a massive owngoal last time. it came out in march and we had to wait till october to get the first ps3 fifa.
Careful what you wish for. The first FIFA on this gen was 07 on the 360 and it was one of, if not the worst football game I've ever played. I'm sure they'll be more prepared this time around though.

Yep, FIFA players will buy the same game, year in, year out, it's amazing really when it's essentially exactly the same game with different skins. They'd be stupid not to take your money!

This nonsense again! By your logic the game hasn't changed since 07, lol.

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #100 on: February 11, 2013, 03:03:37 am »
Yep, FIFA players will buy the same game, year in, year out, it's amazing really when it's essentially exactly the same game with different skins. They'd be stupid not to take your money!
yeah but its just one of them things. its football. everyone gets it so you have to pay 25 a season. think of it as a subscription to football games. its a huge selling game and yeah thats a good point about 07. it was a brand new system i suppose
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #101 on: February 11, 2013, 07:28:34 am »
At least Fifa managed to adapt to the next gen! Let's not get started on PES ;D

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #102 on: February 11, 2013, 12:17:44 pm »
Careful what you wish for. The first FIFA on this gen was 07 on the 360 and it was one of, if not the worst football game I've ever played. I'm sure they'll be more prepared this time around though.
Wasn't the first one FIFA 06 Road to World Cup? It was even worse than FIFA 07.


Rumours are Killzone 4 will be releasing in September (so might be shown next week), and Evolution are teasing a new game on the 20th (developers of Motorstorm who now apparently have been joined by former Studio Liverpool (Wipeout) and Bizarre (PGR) developers.

Edit: And now Media Molecule too, according to Eurogamer:

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LittleBigPlanet creator Media Molecule added a section for a new project (titled "?") to its games page (separate to PlayStation Vita title Tearaway, also currently in development). It features a YouTube video of 1981 pop tune It's A Mystery by Toyah Wilcox.

It probably won't be LBP3 as rumour has it Sumo are developing that while MM work on something else.
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #103 on: February 11, 2013, 12:51:38 pm »
yeah but its just one of them things. its football. everyone gets it so you have to pay 25 a season. think of it as a subscription to football games. its a huge selling game and yeah thats a good point about 07. it was a brand new system i suppose

I'd like it better if it was £25 subscription rather than a new £40 retail game every year I think. Good point.
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #104 on: February 11, 2013, 01:19:58 pm »
I'd like it better if it was £25 subscription rather than a new £40 retail game every year I think. Good point.

Same with FM20xx, you pay a huge amount for effectively an updated squad list, a few new features, more pointless leagues no one plays and most importantly lots and lots of bugs ;)

If they were cheaper then fine but full price each time for effectively just a few changes? I wait a few years between iterations before considering whether to buy or not, and whether it has moved on enough from the last one I bought and if not to wait for the next version.

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #105 on: February 11, 2013, 02:16:44 pm »
i want ea to at least get a fifa ready for release. scored a massive owngoal last time. it came out in march and we had to wait till october to get the first ps3 fifa. yeah its relevant for a few months but people like me would buy it

I always thought it was released late September to get the correct teams/kits/players for the current season. A March release would mean they are out of date in 2months time. They could do a downloadable update, but some people still only play offline, and I imagine 2 new kits for nearly every team would be a large download.

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #106 on: February 11, 2013, 05:34:22 pm »
At least Fifa managed to adapt to the next gen! Let's not get started on PES ;D

Yeah but it was revolutionary in the audio department, how can people forget classics like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR0oAJLEx7k

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #107 on: February 11, 2013, 07:00:13 pm »
Yep, FIFA players will buy the same game, year in, year out, it's amazing really when it's essentially exactly the same game with different skins. They'd be stupid not to take your money!
I haven't bought a Fifa game in two years now due to the fact they still haven't fixed the defending AI in the game, which is still awful at times. However, it's not true that they are just releasing the same game with a different skin. Go back and play Fifa 08 and compare it to 13. It's an entirely different game.

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #109 on: February 14, 2013, 10:41:37 pm »
Interesting

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/02/14/is-this-playstation-4s-controller



Glad to see they're using the Vita d-pad. Not sure about the sticks and I don't know what use the touchpad/screen thing will be. Either a microphone or speakers built in as well, hopefully it's a mic so you don't have to buy headsets separately.
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #110 on: February 14, 2013, 10:46:26 pm »
that glowy bit is where they keep your soul locked up
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #111 on: February 14, 2013, 11:13:57 pm »
Hmmmm - wonder how real that is?  We'll find out sure enough I suppose.

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #112 on: February 15, 2013, 01:53:17 am »
Definitely happening on the 20th - Sony adverts for it:




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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #113 on: February 15, 2013, 07:27:35 am »
Hmmmm - wonder how real that is?  We'll find out sure enough I suppose.

Prototype, but I do think its real. Heavily rumoured that the pad will have a touch screen similar to the rear one on the vita.

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #114 on: February 15, 2013, 07:49:04 am »
I don't think it will be as big and 80's looking as that though.

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #115 on: February 15, 2013, 07:59:03 am »
I don't think it will be as big and 80's looking as that though.

Yeah I reckon it will be different but the general gist will be similar. Touch pad, redesigned l2 r2 triggers. Analogue sticks rumoured to be similar shape to 360's.

Ign has a closer look

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/02/14/a-closer-look-at-the-playstation-4-controller-prototype

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #116 on: February 15, 2013, 08:51:51 am »
Been seeing that pic pop up everywhere for some time now. Pretty sure that's the controller.

I assume there will be several live streams around for this?
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #117 on: February 15, 2013, 09:11:02 am »
Been seeing that pic pop up everywhere for some time now. Pretty sure that's the controller.

I assume there will be several live streams around for this?

Yeah, gamespot, ign etc will all have it. Plus the playstation meeting site itself.
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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #118 on: February 15, 2013, 09:24:42 am »
Hmmmm - wonder how real that is?  We'll find out sure enough I suppose.

Playstation Move?

Looks like the glow from the ball/lightbulb bit on the move controller anyway

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Re: Sony PlayStation 4 - rumoured announcement February 20th 11pm
« Reply #119 on: February 15, 2013, 10:11:51 am »
I deffo believe it is 100% genuine Sony controller, but more of a dev controller with all the features packed in and working (move, touch screen e.t.c).

I'd like to think they'll pretty it up a little before final release.