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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #80 on: March 31, 2012, 02:44:00 pm »
Quote from: Blinis on March 31, 2012, 02:37:25 pm
I'd rather have Enrique, Robinson and Fabio Aurelio than Insua, Dossena and Konchesky.


What a bizarre and pointless comparison.

For starters, Aurelio and Robinson were both at the club when Insua was. And Dossena and Konchesky were never at the club at the same time.
You may as well argue that we were right to sell Arbeloa because Josemi and Kromkamp were rubbish.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #81 on: March 31, 2012, 02:44:41 pm »
Quote from: sangria on March 31, 2012, 02:42:31 pm
What's Aurelio doing in the list? And why are Dossena and Konchesky in the same list?

coz its to prove an argument, of course!
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #82 on: March 31, 2012, 02:45:30 pm »
Quote from: Blinis on March 31, 2012, 02:37:25 pm
He is a good player, but no way better than Enrique. I'd rather have Enrique, Robinson and Fabio Aurelio than Insua, Dossena and Konchesky. Insua moved forward, so did the LFC.

Aurelio is medically challenged ... I rate the fella, borderline love him ...Class player...  Gutted with his medical issues but he makes Lesley King look indestructible.... There was a reason rafa let him go.... What value is having a back up player who inevitably needs a back up cause he's injured or recovering....

Anyway how does a thread which I would term a little insua remembrance thread turn into I still wouldn't have insua in our squad ... To the extent injured players are a better option than a functioning insua ...

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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #83 on: March 31, 2012, 02:48:17 pm »
Some of you people are deluded seriously. He was never good and never would have been, Lucas just got a good break, though even now he isn't orgasmic amazing like some of you state  :duh
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #84 on: March 31, 2012, 02:48:27 pm »
Is he still on our books then ?
If so, Hows he getting on ? Improved at all ?
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #85 on: March 31, 2012, 02:49:32 pm »
Quote from: PepsiRebina on March 31, 2012, 02:48:17 pm
Some of you people are deluded seriously. He was never good and never would have been, Lucas just got a good break, though even now he isn't orgasmic amazing like some of you state  :duh

Some Oracle you are.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #86 on: March 31, 2012, 02:50:56 pm »
It was ridiculous what happened in summer 2010 with him and he probably wasted a year in Turkey with the wrong loan move (should have gone to an English club to see how he did if he was going anywhere).

Kenny did the get the chance to look at him in pre-season, but mustn't have fancied him. I think the potential of Jack Robinson might have swayed the decision to move him on.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #87 on: March 31, 2012, 02:51:44 pm »
Quote from: Prelude no.5 on March 31, 2012, 02:49:32 pm
Some Oracle you are.

Some of you guys need to take a good look at yourself with the Lucas situation!
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #88 on: March 31, 2012, 02:52:11 pm »
Quote from: shelovesyou on March 31, 2012, 02:48:27 pm
Is he still on our books then ?
If so, Hows he getting on ? Improved at all ?

No, well, and yes respectively.

Don't think he was ever that bad a player though, just over-played in an underperforming defensive unit at the time.

Enrique, Insua and Robinson would have been a decent set of options, but that train has sailed.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #89 on: March 31, 2012, 02:53:38 pm »
Quote from: PepsiRebina on March 31, 2012, 02:48:17 pm
Lucas just got a good break

A uniquely profound and insightful piece of analysis
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #90 on: March 31, 2012, 02:53:56 pm »
Always liked him, good player, just never worked out with us. Pity.
We've not done bad with enrique and Robinson hopefully will be a great player
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #91 on: March 31, 2012, 02:54:00 pm »
Quote from: Discipline on March 31, 2012, 10:25:01 am
Wait what? If we own majority of his rights, does that mean he's out on loan to Sporting?  ???

Not a loan in the classic sense of the word. When we've sent Insua there, he's had 12 months left on his LFC contract, but Sporting were not in position to pay any fee due to their financial troubles. It was agreed for LFC to keep 50% of Insua's rights, and for Sporting to pay us the other 50% at a later date. Their debt was settled when we have signed Joao Carlos in January. Since Sporting were still struggling financially, they have sold a certain percentage of the rights of several of their players, including Insua, to some sports management companies, under the names of "Sporting Portugal Fund" and "Quality Sports Investments". You can see some of the transactions here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporting_Portugal_Fund
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_Sports_Investments

In mu humble opinion, these are some sort of money laundering vehicles.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #92 on: March 31, 2012, 02:54:09 pm »
Quote from: PepsiRebina on March 31, 2012, 02:48:17 pm
Lucas just got a good break, though even now he isn't orgasmic amazing like some of you state  :duh

Football not your game then?
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #93 on: March 31, 2012, 02:54:51 pm »
Quote from: PepsiRebina on March 31, 2012, 02:48:17 pm
Some of you people are deluded seriously. He was never good and never would have been, Lucas just got a good break, though even now he isn't orgasmic amazing like some of you state  :duh

Context ... Always helps I find when making criticisms.... Your trainers might look shit but I guess you'd rather still wear them that walk around town bare foot?

As for Lucas " just got a good break" ... What was that then? Father Christmas came and left him a shit load of talent in his stocking?
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #94 on: March 31, 2012, 02:55:19 pm »
Quote from: Suspect Package. on March 31, 2012, 02:54:09 pm
Football not your game then?

Typical response  :lmao
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #95 on: March 31, 2012, 02:56:10 pm »
Quote from: rafa4eva on March 31, 2012, 02:54:51 pm
Context ... Always helps I find when making criticisms.... Your trainers might look shit but I guess you'd rather still wear them that walk around town bare foot?

As for Lucas " just got a good break" ... What was that then? Father Christmas came and left him a shit load of talent in his stocking?

"Shit load of talent"..

That says it all.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #96 on: March 31, 2012, 02:57:08 pm »
Quote from: PepsiRebina on March 31, 2012, 02:55:19 pm
Typical response  :lmao

It's a pretty accurate response though.

Lucas is our best midfielder, it's been obvious to see what he brings since he's been injured, we've missed him enormously.

I don't see how any of that is disputable.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #97 on: March 31, 2012, 02:58:41 pm »
Quote from: Suspect Package. on March 31, 2012, 02:57:08 pm
It's a pretty accurate response though.

Lucas is our best midfielder, it's been obvious to see what he brings since he's been injured, we've missed him enormously.

I don't see how any of that is disputable.

Yes he's our best midfielder, A shining light in our shite midfield. Not hard to do considering the quality and how we have performed this season.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #98 on: March 31, 2012, 02:58:44 pm »
Quote from: PepsiRebina on March 31, 2012, 02:56:10 pm
"Shit load of talent"..

That says it all.

Yes it does, but more about you than me....I'll leave you to spew more insightful thoughts... Your post made me wince.... Then smile... Well done.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #99 on: March 31, 2012, 02:58:51 pm »
Quote from: rafa4eva on March 31, 2012, 02:34:49 pm
Ok... Do you still agree getting rid of him and replacing him with konchesky still makes it the right decision? Or maybe insua was so poor we as a club would rather have an empty space at lb than insua? I can understand wanting to get better, what I can't understand is getting a far worse player on all levels replacing a player who wasn't apparently good enough.... And people still saying that outcome as a positive....Is this a definition of insanity?

I don't think it was worth keeping him as a second choice LB when we already have Aurelio and Robinson. I don't know why people have to bring Konchesky into it.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #100 on: March 31, 2012, 02:59:08 pm »
Quote from: PepsiRebina on March 31, 2012, 02:48:17 pm
Some of you people are deluded seriously. He was never good and never would have been, Lucas just got a good break, though even now he isn't orgasmic amazing like some of you state  :duh
dont think anyone here will bite regarding lucas.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #101 on: March 31, 2012, 03:02:08 pm »
And if you cant see how much our side has missed him this season then you are either deluded or a wum
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #102 on: March 31, 2012, 03:02:12 pm »
Quote from: rafa4eva on March 31, 2012, 02:58:44 pm
Yes it does, but more about you than me....I'll leave you to spew more insightful thoughts... Your post made me wince.... Then smile... Well done.

Yes because he clearly has a "shite load of talent".
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #103 on: March 31, 2012, 03:02:22 pm »
Quote from: Nin on March 31, 2012, 02:58:51 pm
I don't think it was worth keeping him as a second choice LB when we already have Aurelio and Robinson. I don't know why people have to bring Konchesky into it.

Because Aurelio wasn't fit enough to be offered a new contract, & Konchesky was clearly Insua's replacement (or would you have just had Robinson playing the majority of the season on his own?)
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #104 on: March 31, 2012, 03:04:13 pm »
Quote from: simesy on March 31, 2012, 03:02:08 pm
And if you cant see how much our side has missed him this season then you are either deluded or a wum

I don't fully understand how we have "missed" him.. We played shite when he played and when he hasn't played. Wasn't it Gerrard before who when he played we won and we he didn't we lossed? Just accept we are just shite at the minute!
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #105 on: March 31, 2012, 03:04:13 pm »
Quote from: Nin on March 31, 2012, 02:58:51 pm
I don't think it was worth keeping him as a second choice LB when we already have Aurelio and Robinson. I don't know why people have to bring Konchesky into it.

The point is aurelio is injured ... He's kind of a luxury player a side wishes it could afford to keep.... He cannot be relied on however as sad as that is ..... As we have seen over the last 3 years...

The only reason konchesky came into the equation is that insua was sold, and konchesky was bought... He was insuas replacement...
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #106 on: March 31, 2012, 03:04:49 pm »
Quote from: PepsiRebina on March 31, 2012, 02:58:41 pm
Yes he's our best midfielder, A shining light in our shite midfield. Not hard to do considering the quality and how we have performed this season.

So because our other midfielders aren't currently performing, it means our best midfielder, someone who plays regularly for the Brazil national team, who's played at an outstanding level for us for a very long time now, "isn't all that?"

Football not your game then?
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #107 on: March 31, 2012, 03:06:10 pm »
He still isn't orgasmic, some of the praise he gets on here is mad.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #108 on: March 31, 2012, 03:07:23 pm »
Quote from: PepsiRebina on March 31, 2012, 03:02:12 pm
Yes because he clearly has a "shite load of talent".

Are you being deliberately stupid? Or deliberately antagonistic? Or just attempting to wind me up? Or is this just your normal self?

Either way good luck with your life... :wave
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #109 on: March 31, 2012, 03:08:07 pm »
Quote from: NZ Red on March 31, 2012, 02:53:38 pm
A uniquely profound and insightful piece of analysis

:D

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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #110 on: March 31, 2012, 03:10:38 pm »
Quote from: rafa4eva on March 31, 2012, 03:07:23 pm
Are you being deliberately stupid? Or deliberately antagonistic? Or just attempting to wind me up? Or is this just your normal self?

Either way good luck with your life... :wave

This is the problem with our club, deluded fans.
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #111 on: March 31, 2012, 03:14:37 pm »
Quote from: Suspect Package. on March 31, 2012, 03:04:49 pm

Football not your game then?


He doesn't think a full back who liked getting forward & putting in crosses would have been any use to us this season(considering our back up for Enrique has basically been our RB, Insua may have given him some competition).
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #112 on: March 31, 2012, 03:20:44 pm »
Quote from: PepsiRebina on March 31, 2012, 03:04:13 pm
I don't fully understand how we have "missed" him.. We played shite when he played and when he hasn't played. Wasn't it Gerrard before who when he played we won and we he didn't we lossed? Just accept we are just shite at the minute!

With Lucas
P12 W6 D4 L2 Pts22
Extrapolated to 30 games, that's 55 points, level with Tottenham (4th).

Without Lucas
P18 W5 D5 L8 Pts20
Extrapolated to 30 games, that's 33 points, 1 point behind Aston Villa (15th).

Assuming our current goal difference, our form with Lucas would put us 5th, level with Tottenham, while our form without Lucas would put us 15th, 7 points above the relegation places. Oh, and those 12 games with Lucas includes 5 games against the top 5, a majority of them away, while the 18 games without Lucas only includes 4 games against the top 5, with half of them away, so the minitables above are actually disproportionately kinder on our form without Lucas. We still have an away game against a top 5 team to come, and our form against the top 5 is abysmal without Lucas (P4 W0 D1 L3).
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Re: Insua's Goal
« Reply #113 on: March 31, 2012, 03:22:34 pm »
Quote from: AJ4Seven on March 31, 2012, 03:14:37 pm

He doesn't think a full back who liked getting forward & putting in crosses would have been any use to us this season(considering our back up for Enrique has basically been our RB, Insua may have given him some competition).

Insua has also been playing LW on occasion this season, sometimes outshining the specialist (Spanish international) winger on the other flank.
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Re: Alberto Insua
« Reply #114 on: July 14, 2015, 04:15:38 am »
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Re: Alberto Insua
« Reply #115 on: July 14, 2015, 05:36:13 am »
Alberto?
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Re: Alberto Insua
« Reply #116 on: July 14, 2015, 08:35:57 am »
Quote from: DanA on July 14, 2015, 05:36:13 am
Alberto?

Emiliano Adrián Insúa Zapata?
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Re: Emiliano Insua
« Reply #117 on: July 14, 2015, 11:40:00 am »
Emiliano
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Re: Emiliano Insua
« Reply #118 on: January 18, 2016, 06:34:43 am »
« Last Edit: January 18, 2016, 07:05:11 am by zabadoh »
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Re: Emiliano Insua
« Reply #119 on: January 19, 2016, 08:33:32 pm »
Quote from: zabadoh on January 18, 2016, 06:34:43 am
Insua is on a 6 month loan to Newell's Old Boys from Stuttgart(?)

http://deportes.terra.com.ar/futbol/emiliano-insua-cuarto-refuerzo-de-newells,c592d191ed6c5cda51a046730ef92219dlg0ka87.html

Bit of a fall isn't it?  Wasn't he at Sporting and Atletico Madrid not too long ago?  I'm getting old
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