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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1560 on: May 24, 2022, 12:02:47 pm »
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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1561 on: May 24, 2022, 04:25:25 pm »

Yes, I don't know how he will cope.

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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1562 on: June 22, 2022, 10:55:15 am »
Been approached by Chelsea

Thought he has something lined up .

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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1563 on: June 22, 2022, 10:55:57 am »
Been approached by Chelsea

Thought he has something lined up .

Caughtoffside is the source isn't it, so, yeah....

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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1564 on: June 22, 2022, 10:58:52 am »
Caughtoffside is the source isn't it, so, yeah....

Ok , so yeah . ;)

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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1565 on: June 22, 2022, 11:03:53 am »
Been approached by Chelsea

Thought he has something lined up .

You read some things on RAWK which genuinely just leave you gobsmacked.

So....when he announced in November last year that he was leaving, you think what he had lined up was a Sporting Director job at Chelsea? Who have since had their owner sanctioned, put the club up for sale, spent months sorting a new buyer and then sacked their previous sporting director (who was pretty much the main football person at the club under the owner who was in charge at the time that Edwards announced he was leaving)? :D

I know we credit Edwards for playing 4D chess....but wow.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1566 on: June 22, 2022, 11:28:50 am »
You read some things on RAWK which genuinely just leave you gobsmacked.

So....when he announced in November last year that he was leaving, you think what he had lined up was a Sporting Director job at Chelsea? Who have since had their owner sanctioned, put the club up for sale, spent months sorting a new buyer and then sacked their previous sporting director (who was pretty much the main football person at the club under the owner who was in charge at the time that Edwards announced he was leaving)? :D

I know we credit Edwards for playing 4D chess....but wow.

Defo Edwards move that. Cause a war between Russia and Ukraine to get Chelsea sold to a new owner of his choosing who then employs him.

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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1567 on: June 22, 2022, 11:49:34 am »
Caughtoffside is the source isn't it, so, yeah....

The same source says that he has rejected them
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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1568 on: June 22, 2022, 08:56:11 pm »
I hope to god he won’t join one of our “rivals”, that’d be a big blow
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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1569 on: June 22, 2022, 09:02:55 pm »
I imagine Chelsea will try again, but why would you join a club and invest years helping build them up into a competitive winning machine, only to then join a domestic rival competitor and spent the next three to five years of your life effectively trying to undo all the work you did in your previous job by making things even harder for them? 

He certainly doesn't need the money, so is this what would pass for a challenge these days?
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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1570 on: June 22, 2022, 09:06:34 pm »
He certainly doesn't need the money
I'm sure he was paid well, but I doubt he was on footballer wages. Maybe he does need a big payday to set him up for life.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1571 on: June 22, 2022, 11:19:32 pm »
You watch him - he’ll go to a genuine total rebuild project I reckon. He’s an architect. Architects are all about the architecture.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1572 on: June 22, 2022, 11:33:13 pm »
Times confirming that Chelsea want him...
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1573 on: June 22, 2022, 11:43:11 pm »
I thought he would go abroad - hope he doesn’t go Chelsea or Manure

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1574 on: June 23, 2022, 01:07:15 am »
Someone better tell Ward to change all the passwords.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1575 on: June 23, 2022, 10:44:07 am »
I thought he had already turned down Chelsea. None of the Chelsea journalists have even confirmed any of this.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1576 on: June 23, 2022, 10:50:28 am »
Man United is very unrealistic but I could see him at Chelsea.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1577 on: June 23, 2022, 11:03:08 am »
Man United is very unrealistic but I could see him at Chelsea.

In terms of a challenge United would be a very attractive proposition. Problem is its got quite a lot of power brokers involved so he probably would struggle to get settled.

Apparently he has contacts to the group that bought Chelsea and he would be given more backing in that regard. But Chelsea's financial future isn't that assured really.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1578 on: June 23, 2022, 11:17:31 am »
Our super nerd number crunchers better be on iron clad long term contracts.

Not surprised by this, Boehly since he's been linked with Chelsea has wax lyrical about our analytics based recruitment.

Seems he likes to copy of FSG, his Dodgers certainly did by hiring their version of their version of Theo Epstein and  copying the Redsox bringing in analytics to their Baseball recruitment.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1579 on: June 23, 2022, 11:45:03 am »
the angst people are having about this is a bit funny.

most top-level teams are putting this structure in place anyway (maybe without the physicists).

Edwards has already done that here - and left us his protege.

in a couple of years everyone will have it - it's not a huge secret.

(not to take away how awesome Edwards was for us)

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1580 on: June 23, 2022, 11:48:53 am »
You watch him - he’ll go to a genuine total rebuild project I reckon. He’s an architect. Architects are all about the architecture.
I thought he'd go for a different sport, or a more executive role, even at FSG -- overseeing the whole sporting empire and installing best practice. That would be a challenge, rather than more of the same, which is what Chelsea represents.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1581 on: June 23, 2022, 12:03:47 pm »
the angst people are having about this is a bit funny.

most top-level teams are putting this structure in place anyway (maybe without the physicists).

Edwards has already done that here - and left us his protege.

in a couple of years everyone will have it - it's not a huge secret.

(not to take away how awesome Edwards was for us)

He could take some part of the team with him though
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1582 on: June 23, 2022, 12:22:29 pm »
It's not having a data analytics that wins you trophies. They present the foundation but all the heavy lifting is still required by the coaching.

Obviously all Premier League clubs use analytics to some extent, and if you put Klopp in at Chelsea they'd be winning all before them regardless of Boehly's grand data vision.

Not saying it's unimportant but FSG's methods were being utilised prior to Klopp and the margin between success and failure is down to the coaching. And let's remember Brendan Rodgers - who is a very capable manager - couldn't get a tune out of Firmino or know how to play him. Looked like a dud under such circumstances but bring in a world class manager and suddenly the data analysis is genius.

It's another thing altogether to get a world class manager to get the absolute best out of them. Chelsea may replicate the structure, but I'm not worrying they'll usurp Klopp and co if they're still up against the neurotic oddball that is in their dugout.
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1583 on: June 23, 2022, 12:32:28 pm »
Its a bit like when that Steve Walsh bloke who 'masterminded' Leicester signing Vardy, Kante and Mahrez, rolled up at Everton to much fanfare and then promptly got fucked off about a year later.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1584 on: June 23, 2022, 12:56:58 pm »
the angst people are having about this is a bit funny.

most top-level teams are putting this structure in place anyway (maybe without the physicists).

Edwards has already done that here - and left us his protege.

in a couple of years everyone will have it - it's not a huge secret.

(not to take away how awesome Edwards was for us)

It’s probably cos football in England was so slow to catch onto the Sporting Director model. It was a big no-no for ages. We all remember how Rodgers refused to work with one here, it was normal for managers to just not want them.

Edwards’ status was really elevated, as he was maybe one of the first really good, high profile ones and of cousre, doing it at a very high profile club.

I’m sure many of recall how Michael Zorc was looked upon as some genius by a lot of PL fans (his name would come up as often as a managers’ name in many a teams fanbase wish lists). Yet pre Klopp he wasn’t considered anything special, in fact he was on shaky ground at Dortmund.   

It’s become a bigger deal here because many where not used to it I imagine.

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Re: Michael Edwards and the Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1585 on: June 23, 2022, 02:30:07 pm »


Oh. I sea.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1586 on: June 29, 2022, 10:01:29 pm »
Stories about of United and Chelsea.
I hope edwards doesn’t go to either
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1587 on: June 29, 2022, 11:24:35 pm »
Stories about of United and Chelsea.
I hope edwards doesn’t go to either

I hope he goes to both

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1588 on: July 25, 2022, 05:52:53 am »
The £80million Anfield Road redevelopment is on budget and on track for completion in time for the start of the 2023-24 season. An extra 7,000 seats will boost capacity of Liverpool’s stadium to around 61,000. The club are open to the idea of selling naming rights to the stand (not the stadium itself) if the right offer is forthcoming.

“It’s certainly something that we will consider,” says Hogan. “We didn’t for the Main Stand; we may for Anfield Road. We wouldn’t say no to it but it’s not something we’re actively pursuing currently.”

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1589 on: July 25, 2022, 10:55:01 am »
I wish I could win £100m on euromillions. I'd gladly offer LFC £20m a year for five years to rename the ARE the "Everton Are Crap" stand. ;D
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1590 on: July 25, 2022, 01:06:23 pm »
I wish I could win £100m on euromillions. I'd gladly offer LFC £20m a year for five years to rename the ARE the "Everton Are Crap" stand. ;D

Perhaps the "Everton Are Tragic" stand would be more, you know, traditional...
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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1591 on: August 15, 2022, 08:06:16 am »
It has been well documented that Michael Edwards was a leading target for the new Stamford Bridge hierarchy, the Englishman having decided to leave his post with Liverpool after more than a decade.

But if Edwards had emerged as the top candidate from Chelsea’s perspective, they are going to need to look elsewhere because, The Athletic has learned, he has turned down the potential opportunity.

It is believed Edwards — who joined Liverpool in November 2011 following two years at Tottenham and was previously employed by EFL club Portsmouth — informed Chelsea in recent weeks of his intention to take some time out away from football, so stepping into such a role is not on his agenda for now.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1592 on: August 15, 2022, 08:36:52 am »
You read some things on RAWK which genuinely just leave you gobsmacked.

So....when he announced in November last year that he was leaving, you think what he had lined up was a Sporting Director job at Chelsea? Who have since had their owner sanctioned, put the club up for sale, spent months sorting a new buyer and then sacked their previous sporting director (who was pretty much the main football person at the club under the owner who was in charge at the time that Edwards announced he was leaving)? :D

I know we credit Edwards for playing 4D chess....but wow.

You missed the point , never thought he was going to Chelsea .

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1593 on: August 15, 2022, 01:53:41 pm »
It has been well documented that Michael Edwards was a leading target for the new Stamford Bridge hierarchy, the Englishman having decided to leave his post with Liverpool after more than a decade.

But if Edwards had emerged as the top candidate from Chelsea’s perspective, they are going to need to look elsewhere because, The Athletic has learned, he has turned down the potential opportunity.

It is believed Edwards — who joined Liverpool in November 2011 following two years at Tottenham and was previously employed by EFL club Portsmouth — informed Chelsea in recent weeks of his intention to take some time out away from football, so stepping into such a role is not on his agenda for now.

https://theathletic.com/3505641/2022/08/15/ornstein-column-xhaka-jesus-arsenal-edwards-chelsea/

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1594 on: August 20, 2022, 06:28:30 am »
Lovely interview with Alex Inglethorpe, who's just signed a new long term contract https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/alex-inglethorpe-new-deal-lfc-story-so-far-and-academy-vision

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1595 on: August 20, 2022, 09:16:37 am »
Lovely interview with Alex Inglethorpe, who's just signed a new long term contract https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/alex-inglethorpe-new-deal-lfc-story-so-far-and-academy-vision

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1596 on: September 19, 2022, 06:50:21 pm »
Maybe someone can get over to Wembley and ask Will what he actually does all day as FSG clearly don't care.....


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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1597 on: September 19, 2022, 06:52:06 pm »
Maybe someone can get over to Wembley and ask Will what he actually does all day as FSG clearly don't care.....



Didnt one of our guys give an presentation basically highlighting how transfers are too risky and basically dont bother.

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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1598 on: September 19, 2022, 06:57:27 pm »
Didnt one of our guys give an presentation basically highlighting how transfers are too risky and basically dont bother.

And yet we do transfers! Makes me think of this meme.




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Re: The Men in Suits behind the scenes
« Reply #1599 on: September 19, 2022, 08:14:40 pm »
Didnt one of our guys give an presentation basically highlighting how transfers are too risky and basically dont bother.
Wast he the speaker last year too?