Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - WELCOME, 'A PLAYER'!!

[elsewhere]

to be fair - £250 doesn't get you many good players these days.

[elsewhere]

1. Georgios Baklava
2. Stephanos Souvlaki

Careful there mate, baklava is turkish

[west_london_red]

to be fair - £250 doesn't get you many good players these days.

We sold about 1.6 million kits in 2018/19, considering the fact we have just won the league I think we can safely say the club will get more then my £250 for selling its shirts!

[Reeves]

Makes sense, I’d have you down as a ‘Nuts’ man rather than National Geographic

If the cap fits

[newterp]

We sold about 1.6 million kits in 2018/19, considering the fact we have just won the league I think we can safely say the club will get more then my £250 for selling its shirts!

Don’t ruin my joke with facts please!

[PeterTheRed ...]

With no CL football and no matchday revenue, with a huge stadium debt hanging over Spurs' heads, with no real takers for Harry Kane, this summer is probably the perfect time to make a bid for Heung-min Son.

[Reeves]

son would suit us

[Floydy]

Personally, in terms of attacking options I would do two things & assuming (gut feel) that Origi & Shaqiri will leave  then I would A)  include Brewster in the fold, and B)   purchase a player like Luis Muriel from Atalanta, unpredictable, experienced, knows where the back of the net is. Some of his finishing is excellent, has teh ability to score from range, free kicks too. Shouldn't cost too much either,

[BER]

With no CL football and no matchday revenue, with a huge stadium debt hanging over Spurs' heads, with no real takers for Harry Kane, this summer is probably the perfect time to make a bid for Heung-min Son.

[west_london_red]

Don’t ruin my joke with facts please!

All of us self confessed Rafaistas love a a good fact!

[west_london_red]

son would suit us

I think Son would suit any decent team, he’s absolutely wasted at Spurs.

[PeterTheRed ...]

son would suit us

I don't know if we could afford him (maybe if we sell Origi, Shaqiri and Wilson), but there are very few players out there who would suit us better than Son. Some of the big clubs around Europe will definitely make a bid for him.

[Lynndenberries]

If our big concern is the front 3 aging, why would we go spend £50m+ on a player in the same age profile? I rate Son highly, but it wouldn’t make any sense for us.

[Floydy]

This teams needs  Jari Litmanen, he would take this team to another level.

[Bobinhood]

Socrates ?

Eureka!

It's Gomis.

[IgorBobbins]

Personally, in terms of attacking options I would do two things & assuming (gut feel) that Origi & Shaqiri will leave  then I would A)  include Brewster in the fold, and B)   purchase a player like Luis Muriel from Atalanta, unpredictable, experienced, knows where the back of the net is. Some of his finishing is excellent, has teh ability to score from range, free kicks too. Shouldn't cost too much either,

Was he the guy who missed about 15 great chances against Utd when he was at Sevilla a couple of years back? Or am I confusing him with someone else 

[Red-Soldier]

Personally, in terms of attacking options I would do two things & assuming (gut feel) that Origi & Shaqiri will leave  then I would A)  include Brewster in the fold, and B)   purchase a player like Luis Muriel from Atalanta, unpredictable, experienced, knows where the back of the net is. Some of his finishing is excellent, has teh ability to score from range, free kicks too. Shouldn't cost too much either,

Is he still a champion pie eater!

Remember when he came on the scene, meant to be the next greatest thing etc.  Then he just turned into a fat bastard.

[Floydy]

Was he the guy who missed about 15 great chances against Utd when he was at Sevilla a couple of years back? Or am I confusing him with someone else 

Yes, but for a cheap short term option he could be a good bench option. Scores lots from the bench. He is tough as fuck and gives us that something different. As for missing sitters, shit happens. His goal scoring record is good. When he finishes he does so with aplomb.

[jonnypb]

If our big concern is the front 3 aging, why would we go spend £50m+ on a player in the same age profile? I rate Son highly, but it wouldn’t make any sense for us.

Good point, he's a great player, but don't see us spending the money on him that would be required to sign him, we'd have just bought Werner if we had money for Son.  Son wouldn't come cheap as he's got another few years left on his contract.

Willian on a free wouldn't be a bad shout and he'd get us through the season until things hopefully start returning to normal and the clubs start seeing revenue coming back.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Personally, in terms of attacking options I would do two things & assuming (gut feel) that Origi & Shaqiri will leave  then I would A)  include Brewster in the fold, and B)   purchase a player like Luis Muriel from Atalanta, unpredictable, experienced, knows where the back of the net is. Some of his finishing is excellent, has teh ability to score from range, free kicks too. Shouldn't cost too much either,

Now admittedly I haven't seen him play much for 18 months, but by gum he's had a pretty terrible career given all the hype. I'd put his resurgence mostly down to how Atalanta play?

[PeterTheRed ...]

If our big concern is the front 3 aging, why would we go spend £50m+ on a player in the same age profile? I rate Son highly, but it wouldn’t make any sense for us.

Firmino - 1991
Salah - 1992
Mane - 1992
Son - 1992

None of these players will turn 30 before October 2021. Why would anyone be worried about them aging? They have just entered their peak years. That means at least another 3-4 seasons of domination.

[killer-heels]

Firmino - 1991
Salah - 1992
Mane - 1992
Son - 1992

None of these players will turn 30 before October 2021. Why would anyone be worried about them aging? They have just entered their peak years. That means at least another 3-4 seasons of domination.

We are only signing big signings if they are likely to be a key part of our side and not to sit on the bench. If we are saying that’s what we will do for another attacker then we should be bidding for players like Sancho considering he is younger than Son.

[west_london_red]

We are only signing big signings if they are likely to be a key part of our side and not to sit on the bench. If we are saying that’s what we will do for another attacker then we should be bidding for players like Sancho considering he is younger than Son.

I made a similar point earlier, Sancho may not be better then what we have now but if he’s as good and 8 years younger that still worth considering and that’s without the possibility that because he’s only 20 is still developing and should get better.

[Djozer]

Firmino - 1991
Salah - 1992
Mane - 1992
Son - 1992

None of these players will turn 30 before October 2021. Why would anyone be worried about them aging? They have just entered their peak years. That means at least another 3-4 seasons of domination.

You reckon both Mane and Salah will still be performing as they are now at the age of 32, given how important speed is to their game? I guess it's possible, and someone in this thread floated the idea that we don't really know what "peak age" means these days (and it probably varies from person to person anyway), but I have my doubts personally. Hopefully I'm wrong, but past experience has taught me that many pacy players seem to lose their edge at the ages of 29-31 or thereabouts, or at the very least have to adapt their game somewhat.

I wouldn't say I'm worried exactly, and I think both Mane and Salah have enough to their game besides raw speed to still be effective once their raw speed goes a bit, but small margins and all that. I think they'll still be ripping it up for a while yet (was actually having a chat with a mate recently in which we decided Sadio could make a brilliant midfielder if and when he slows down), but I'd be amazed if we're still seeing the same return from them in three or four years' time. Not a pressing issue by any means, but I think signing another player of that age to rotate with them wouldn't really be the best way of looking towards the future, fantastic as Son is. Never gwan happen in a million years anyway, though it'd be nice to give the Spurs fans another reason to whine about us seeing as how it seems to be one of their favourite pastimes.

[PeterTheRed ...]

We are only signing big signings if they are likely to be a key part of our side and not to sit on the bench. If we are saying that’s what we will do for another attacker then we should be bidding for players like Sancho considering he is younger than Son.

If I have to pick between Son and Sancho, I would pick Son without hesitation. Son is a proven Premier League player, and a perfect fit for our style of play. As for him sitting on the bench, having the possibility to rotate Salah, Mane, Firmino and Son will only add fuel to our dominance. Maybe I am greedy, but I want to crush Man City and get even further ahead of Man Utd and Chelsea over the next 2-3 seasons. We are already a force on the field, and we are rapidly becoming a force off the field. The next 2-3 seasons will define us as a club for the next 15-20 years, and we know from experience that nothing succeeds like success.

[PoetryInMotion]

If I have to pick between Son and Sancho, I would pick Son without hesitation. Son is a proven Premier League player, and a perfect fit for our style of play. As for him sitting on the bench, having the possibility to rotate Salah, Mane, Firmino and Son will only add fuel to our dominance. Maybe I am greedy, but I want to crush Man City and get even further ahead of Man Utd and Chelsea over the next 2-3 seasons. We are already a force on the field, and we are rapidly becoming a force off the field. The next 2-3 seasons will define us as a club for the next 15-20 years, and we know from experience that nothing succeeds like success.

Premier League proven is such a myth. Hazard wasn't PL proven when he came from Lille. Neither was Silva from Valencia. Both Salah and De Bruyne were PL rejects. They proved it over the years. Sancho is going to be a star. I'd pick Sancho over Son anyday. FSG, who are big fans of resale value, would rightly pick Sancho as well, if the choice was between the two.

[elsewhere]

If our big concern is the front 3 aging, why would we go spend £50m+ on a player in the same age profile? I rate Son highly, but it wouldn’t make any sense for us.

I think we should spend 50M on anti-aging products, problem solved.

[ScouserAtHeart]

After watching the FA Cup final yesterday, I agree with those who think Maitland-Niles would be a good addition

[Reeves]

After watching the FA Cup final yesterday, I agree with those who think Maitland-Niles would be a good addition

Isn’t he a right back? If so we don’t need a right back as we have Trent and cover. It’s a cover left back we need. Interestingly I was discussing transfers with my non LFC mates yesterday and all asked aren’t we fucked if Robertson gets injured as we don’t have any cover. If they can spot that surely our transfer committee can

[royhendo]

Arteta seems to have done a u-turn on him hasn’t he? Trying to keep hold of him.

[ScouserAtHeart]

He can play in midfield as well though. His movement and awareness was excellent yesterday. He kept the play stretched and also more importantly moved inside and helped double up on Chelsea's midfield when they lost the ball. I feel he'd thrive under our pressing game

[JRed]

We do have a couple of problems regarding transfers. One being that we constantly seem to be paupers when it comes to spending money, unless we sell first. Despite being arguably the best team on the planet right now. The other is our first XI is so set in stone it would be very difficult for a new signing to see how they’d get game time ,which would no doubt put top players off signing. I’m hoping Brewster has a break through season so we don’t suffer through not buying a striker. I like Bobby and I know he does a lot for Salah and Mané but I do think he could improve his finishing!

[Sangria]

I think we should spend 50M on anti-aging products, problem solved.

Aren't we already sponsored by Nivea?

[Red-Soldier]

We do have a couple of problems regarding transfers. One being that we constantly seem to be paupers when it comes to spending money, unless we sell first. Despite being arguably the best team on the planet right now. The other is our first XI is so set in stone it would be very difficult for a new signing to see how they’d get game time ,which would no doubt put top players off signing. I’m hoping Brewster has a break through season so we don’t suffer through not buying a striker. I like Bobby and I know he does a lot for Salah and Mané but I do think he could improve his finishing!

Reality points to this being totally wrong.

Some players Klopp has signed:

Sadio Mané    Southampton    £30,000,000    28 June 2016
Loris Karius    Mainz 05    £4,700,000    1 July 2016
Georginio Wijnaldum    Newcastle United    £25,000,000 *    22 July 2016
Mohamed Salah    Roma    £43,900,000 *    22 June 2017
Dominic Solanke    Chelsea    £4,000,000 *    1 July 2017
Andy Robertson    Hull City    £10,000,000 *    21 July 2017
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain    Arsenal    £35,000,000    31 August 2017
Virgil Van Dijk    Southampton    £75,000,000    1 January 2018
Naby Keita    Red Bull Leipzig    £52,750,000    1 July 2018
Fabinho Tavarez    AS Monaco    £43,700,000 *    1 July 2018
Xherdan Shaqiri    Stoke City    £13,750,000    13 July 2018
Alisson Becker    Roma    £65,000,000 *    19 July 2018
Sepp van den Berg    PEC Zwolle    £4,400,000 *    27 June 2019
Takumi Minamino    Red Bull Salzburg    £7,250,000    1 January 2020


FSG have overseen around £800m of Liverpool transfer signings

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/every-one-66-liverpool-transfer-18447189


We are currently in a global pandemic which is having a monumental impact on finances across the board.

[Sangria]

Reality points to this being totally wrong.

Some players Klopp has signed:

Sadio Mané    Southampton    £30,000,000    28 June 2016
Loris Karius    Mainz 05    £4,700,000    1 July 2016
Georginio Wijnaldum    Newcastle United    £25,000,000 *    22 July 2016
Mohamed Salah    Roma    £43,900,000 *    22 June 2017
Dominic Solanke    Chelsea    £4,000,000 *    1 July 2017
Andy Robertson    Hull City    £10,000,000 *    21 July 2017
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain    Arsenal    £35,000,000    31 August 2017
Virgil Van Dijk    Southampton    £75,000,000    1 January 2018
Naby Keita    Red Bull Leipzig    £52,750,000    1 July 2018
Fabinho Tavarez    AS Monaco    £43,700,000 *    1 July 2018
Xherdan Shaqiri    Stoke City    £13,750,000    13 July 2018
Alisson Becker    Roma    £65,000,000 *    19 July 2018
Sepp van den Berg    PEC Zwolle    £4,400,000 *    27 June 2019
Takumi Minamino    Red Bull Salzburg    £7,250,000    1 January 2020


FSG have overseen around £800m of Liverpool transfer signings

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/every-one-66-liverpool-transfer-18447189

More relevantly, FSG have backed Klopp in dealing with his number one bugbear; losing his main players, especially to direct rivals. Coutinho is the only main player we've lost during Klopp's reign, and Klopp couldn't have been happier with the manner of his exit; indeed, FSG actually kept him for longer than Klopp himself would have done, and Klopp was pissing himself with laughter at the eventual fee. Every other player Klopp wanted to keep, we've kept. No Lewandowski, Hummels, Gotze or similar cases.

Perhaps a clue to our strategy was revealed in a recent Salah interview, where he mentioned that he was happy here, and that the key was to get as many trophies out of this current team as possible.

[Reeves]

You reckon both Mane and Salah will still be performing as they are now at the age of 32, given how important speed is to their game?

Outfield players tend to peak at 26-28 in my view. Sure that's not set in stone and it varies, but for players that rely on speed, we don't see many improve after that. In fact for players that rely on speed it's arguably earlier if they get injuries such as Giggs and Owen.

On another note just read that "LFC face competition for Thiago as PSG prepare a bid" - seems all this is agent talk now. No team takes yonks to prepare a bid, less so PSG or in fact LFC. We simply bid

[Reeves]

He can play in midfield as well though. His movement and awareness was excellent yesterday. He kept the play stretched and also more importantly moved inside and helped double up on Chelsea's midfield when they lost the ball. I feel he'd thrive under our pressing game

Fair enough - I've not seen him enough, t'was just the right back thing which I didn't understand

[Lofty Ambitions]

All of us self confessed Rafaistas love a a good fact!

And that is a fact!

[aw1991]

You reckon both Mane and Salah will still be performing as they are now at the age of 32, given how important speed is to their game? I guess it's possible, and someone in this thread floated the idea that we don't really know what "peak age" means these days (and it probably varies from person to person anyway), but I have my doubts personally. Hopefully I'm wrong, but past experience has taught me that many pacy players seem to lose their edge at the ages of 29-31 or thereabouts, or at the very least have to adapt their game somewhat.

Honestly, I would be surprised if they wouldn't. I can't think of too many players who had a noticeable drop of quality at 32. They might not be at their absolute peak, but I can't see them not being, at least, good first team players for a top side

[IgorBobbins]

Reality points to this being totally wrong.

Some players Klopp has signed:

Sadio Mané    Southampton    £30,000,000    28 June 2016
Loris Karius    Mainz 05    £4,700,000    1 July 2016
Georginio Wijnaldum    Newcastle United    £25,000,000 *    22 July 2016
Mohamed Salah    Roma    £43,900,000 *    22 June 2017
Dominic Solanke    Chelsea    £4,000,000 *    1 July 2017
Andy Robertson    Hull City    £10,000,000 *    21 July 2017
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain    Arsenal    £35,000,000    31 August 2017
Virgil Van Dijk    Southampton    £75,000,000    1 January 2018
Naby Keita    Red Bull Leipzig    £52,750,000    1 July 2018
Fabinho Tavarez    AS Monaco    £43,700,000 *    1 July 2018
Xherdan Shaqiri    Stoke City    £13,750,000    13 July 2018
Alisson Becker    Roma    £65,000,000 *    19 July 2018
Sepp van den Berg    PEC Zwolle    £4,400,000 *    27 June 2019
Takumi Minamino    Red Bull Salzburg    £7,250,000    1 January 2020


FSG have overseen around £800m of Liverpool transfer signings

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/every-one-66-liverpool-transfer-18447189


We are currently in a global pandemic which is having a monumental impact on finances across the board.

But his point was, that we don’t spend much unless we sell first. Which is kinda true, no? Since 15/16 we’ve spent approx £515m and recouped approx £410m. £100m net spend over 5 years isn’t huge.