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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #200 on: November 24, 2022, 10:16:34 am »
Robbo Doak......rubbish nickname

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #201 on: November 24, 2022, 06:24:37 pm »
Could we agree instead that if Doak becomes a player at Owen’s peak level that’d be a good thing? Or even a Damien Duff type level? Agreement is sometimes helpful. Find what you can agree on eh?

Odd you mention Duff because everytime I  see him that's who he reminds me of. I think it's the way he carries himself.

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #202 on: November 25, 2022, 10:58:01 am »
Odd you mention Duff because everytime I  see him that's who he reminds me of. I think it's the way he carries himself.

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #203 on: November 28, 2022, 11:50:43 pm »
For those who have watched him, what would he need improvements in his game?.

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #204 on: November 29, 2022, 07:18:51 am »
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #205 on: November 29, 2022, 09:09:57 am »
Nothing artificial, it's all going to be organic with him

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #206 on: November 29, 2022, 09:23:53 am »
For those who have watched him, what would he need improvements in his game?.

Posted similar before, but at the moment he's a very traditional British winger, darting outside the fullback and then whipping the ball across the goal.  He needs to play more on the left and through the middle to add a bit more variety to his game and to start thinking about what kind of runs he could/should be making.  Doesn't play much like an inside forward at the moment, but learning the nuances of that role would really help.
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #207 on: November 29, 2022, 07:30:51 pm »
For those who have watched him, what would he need improvements in his game?.
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His runs in behind could take him to the next level, it’s something that came naturally to Sterling for example at that age, probably why he made it so far.

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #208 on: December 16, 2022, 09:43:59 pm »
Good cameo today. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got minutes before the end of the season. Shame we got city in the league cup.

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #209 on: December 16, 2022, 10:50:00 pm »
First attacking prospect ive been excited by in some time, brings me back to the sterling days

Just seems to have no fear and the skills to back it up, but youngsters can really struggle with that step-up so wont get over excited yet but Doak could end up saving LFC quite a few quid if he fulfills his potential

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #210 on: December 16, 2022, 11:14:38 pm »
First attacking prospect ive been excited by in some time, brings me back to the sterling days

Just seems to have no fear and the skills to back it up, but youngsters can really struggle with that step-up so wont get over excited yet but Doak could end up saving LFC quite a few quid if he fulfills his potential
Yeah, if he progresses he would save the club an absolute packet and way more than Sterling saved us when he came through. We would need him to be as good though so no pressure..

The 5 subs will help especially if we start playing better and are a few goals up so the pressure isn’t as high and he can get some minutes. I saw an interview with Klopp saying he is 16, if I was the kid I’d be reminding him I’m 17 and I want whatever minutes he can give.  ;D

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #211 on: December 16, 2022, 11:44:41 pm »
Probably the best 17 year old I’ve seen come through since Lionel Messi at Barcelona. Expect him to have a very similar career.

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #212 on: December 16, 2022, 11:45:43 pm »
Probably the best 17 year old I’ve seen come through since Lionel Messi at Barcelona. Expect him to have a very similar career.

Are you serious?

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #213 on: December 17, 2022, 12:59:27 am »
Are you serious?

Edit: Of course not  ;D

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #214 on: December 17, 2022, 07:11:46 am »
He looked great against Southampton and followed up with a lively cameo here
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #215 on: December 17, 2022, 10:04:03 am »
Such an interesting player. He has some pretty rare gifts.
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #216 on: December 17, 2022, 12:21:17 pm »
Some really exciting attacking talents in that age group at the minute, Doak, Clarke, Gordon etc. Hoping they can all make the step up.
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #217 on: December 17, 2022, 12:28:06 pm »
I've got tickets for the FA Youth Cup tie at Bournemouth on Thursday afternoon. Was hoping to see Doak up close. Think I may well miss out cos he might just have impressed enough to get on the bench for the Man City cup tie in the evening

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #218 on: December 17, 2022, 12:41:08 pm »
When you look at what he's done every time he's been on the pitch I think he's jumped right to the front of the queue of attacking prospects. I wonder if he could leapfrog the likes of Ox, Harvey, and Carvalho as a front 3 option over the next couple of months.

Interesting that he seems to be a right footer who plays on the right. Mainly see inverted wide players nowadays.

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #219 on: December 17, 2022, 01:05:20 pm »
Such an interesting player. He has some pretty rare gifts.

I've been pleasantly surprised by how well his skillset has translated into a first team context. I assumed the physical dominance he exerted at u18 level would just naturally be cancelled out as he stepped up, but from the glimpses we've now seen he just looks to have an increasingly freakish ability to shift his momentum faster than anyone around him and his top speed, core strength and balll control looks sufficient to keep most fullbacks a yard or two back.

Klopp's reaction is the most telling bit. He basically called him a force of nature in his post match comments, which is pretty strong praise, he's usually much more circumspect about kids coming through to avoid piling the pressure on. Combined with the facial reactions which, bless him, he just can't control, you can tell he's properly excited by this kid.

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #220 on: December 17, 2022, 07:36:19 pm »
I liked the way he got his head up before he crossed to Darwin.l.


Reminds me a bit of Andy Sinton.
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #221 on: December 17, 2022, 08:04:16 pm »
Reminds me a bit of Andy Sinton.

Ha, not a bad shout now you mention it. He's one of the first genuinely two footed players I remember watching. Seemed to play on a different flank every time he played against us

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #222 on: December 17, 2022, 08:13:39 pm »
I liked the way he got his head up before he crossed to Darwin.l.


Reminds me a bit of Andy Sinton.

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #223 on: December 17, 2022, 09:32:41 pm »
I like the Duff comparison someone made. Very similar playing style.

If it wasn’t for Abramovic we would have got him and he would have been far more respected retrospectively.
I've been pleasantly surprised by how well his skillset has translated into a first team context. I assumed the physical dominance he exerted at u18 level would just naturally be cancelled out as he stepped up, but from the glimpses we've now seen he just looks to have an increasingly freakish ability to shift his momentum faster than anyone around him and his top speed, core strength and balll control looks sufficient to keep most fullbacks a yard or two back.
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #224 on: December 18, 2022, 05:14:30 am »
I like the Duff comparison someone made. Very similar playing style.

If it wasn’t for Abramovic we would have got him and he would have been far more respected retrospectively. Yeah you never really know till they play senior football.

Most important thing is one of the lads recommends a barber to him. Not Harvey.

if rawk was around then, guess his transfer rumors page would be at least 100 pages. we were linked with him forever

guess its the physique too. stocky lad. left footed and explosive. love to see more of him around in the season and what are the plans. maybe he got some hope of playing time since diaz is out for quite a while. nothing better than a 20-30 minute cameo when we are cruising

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #225 on: December 18, 2022, 08:13:26 am »
Ha, not a bad shout now you mention it. He's one of the first genuinely two footed players I remember watching. Seemed to play on a different flank every time he played against us

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #226 on: December 18, 2022, 09:54:48 am »
if rawk was around then, guess his transfer rumors page would be at least 100 pages. we were linked with him forever

guess its the physique too. stocky lad. left footed and explosive. love to see more of him around in the season and what are the plans. maybe he got some hope of playing time since diaz is out for quite a while. nothing better than a 20-30 minute cameo when we are cruising


Doak is right footed, he's just also very comfortable on his left, similar to Lallana.
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #227 on: December 18, 2022, 10:38:20 am »
Left…right…we’re there any others?!

If we're there, I'm sure others will be there too.
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #228 on: December 18, 2022, 11:01:37 am »
if rawk was around then, guess his transfer rumors page would be at least 100 pages. we were linked with him forever

guess its the physique too. stocky lad. left footed and explosive. love to see more of him around in the season and what are the plans. maybe he got some hope of playing time since diaz is out for quite a while. nothing better than a 20-30 minute cameo when we are cruising

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #229 on: December 18, 2022, 11:11:31 am »
He’s right footed
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #230 on: December 18, 2022, 12:00:37 pm »
He has hair, what we doin?

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #232 on: December 19, 2022, 12:02:54 pm »
I get the Duff comparison, but whereas Duff had a ton of talent but never developed the ability to run a game with his passing and technique, I believe Doak has the coaches around him to become a much better all round player.

All this talk of signing an attacking player to cover for the Diaz/ Jota injuries is nonsense to me: give Doak a chance!

Between now and the return of the aforementioned, he can learn a lot, and contribute a lot. If you're good enough, you're old enough, right?


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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #233 on: December 19, 2022, 12:04:00 pm »
He's got a little bit of Suarez about him, similar build and he has the same happy habit of bundling through defenders and coming out the other side with the ball at his feet.
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #234 on: December 19, 2022, 04:04:40 pm »
Can we get him the Messi growth hormones please?

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #235 on: December 19, 2022, 04:21:35 pm »
He's got a little bit of Suarez about him, similar build and he has the same happy habit of bundling through defenders and coming out the other side with the ball at his feet.

I've noticed that particular skill too. And it is a skill. At first - just as with Suarez - you think "God, he's lucky with the ricochets". But there's no luck involved. It happens too regularly for luck to be a factor. As with Suarez this young kid seems to have a fantastic understanding of where to position himself best in relation to the moving ball. He trusts his touch and his momentum to see him through a tackle. I can't say I've seen many players who possess that gift. (Bobby's another one I think, though without the explosive power of Suarez - and, we hope, a maturing Doak).
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #236 on: December 19, 2022, 07:10:28 pm »
I have a feeling VAR is going to be very busy whenever he plays. Penalties galore & opposition fans in full fume week after week. LiVARpool will be back with a vengance.

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #237 on: December 19, 2022, 09:37:18 pm »
Is rather Suarez like with the bundling through challenges. His turn f pace is so dangerous, reminds me of Mane at his best, small, stocky and lightning quick from a standing start, has the same habit as Mane too of slowing down his marker then bursting past them as they plant their feet

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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #238 on: December 19, 2022, 09:50:57 pm »
You lot… Rooney, Sterling, Suarez, Mane


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I’d be delighted if he turned out like Sinton to be honest. He was a good player. For someone who has just turned 17 that would be a good result.
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Re: Welcome to LFC Ben Doak
« Reply #239 on: December 19, 2022, 09:52:44 pm »
You lot… Romney, Sterling, Suarez, Mane


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I’d be delighted if he turned out like Sinton to be honest. He was a good player. For someone who has just turned 17 that would be a good result.

I’d reckon he is too left wing to turn out like Romney.