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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1880 on: September 17, 2023, 02:48:09 pm »
This is some performance from Sainz, genius!

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1881 on: September 17, 2023, 02:50:04 pm »
OH NO!!!!!

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1882 on: September 17, 2023, 02:50:34 pm »
That is fucking gutting

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1883 on: September 17, 2023, 02:50:47 pm »
well russell's fucked that right up.

really smart driving from sainz. there was some talk about 3 races ago that he was 'shite' but since then he's done a fine job.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1884 on: September 17, 2023, 02:51:17 pm »
Ah poor George! Not fair at all on him.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1885 on: September 17, 2023, 02:51:28 pm »
That's gutting for Russell.

Absolutely fucking buzzing with that!! Get in P2 Norris!!!!

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1886 on: September 17, 2023, 02:51:41 pm »
4d chess move from Sainz for P1.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1887 on: September 17, 2023, 02:51:57 pm »
Great end to the race

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1888 on: September 17, 2023, 02:52:11 pm »
Absolutely superb from Carlos and Lando! Amazing drive from the both of them and so unlucky for George.

Max absolutely ripping through the grid at the end there as well, superb.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1889 on: September 17, 2023, 02:52:13 pm »
What a drive from Sainz. Ferrari put an end to the streak of Red Bull

Good drive from Lando, Russell :lmao

Max still finishes fifth.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1890 on: September 17, 2023, 02:52:35 pm »
Superb driving by Sainz. Genius giving Lando DRS to hold off the Mercs.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1891 on: September 17, 2023, 02:53:16 pm »
Gutted for Russell.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1892 on: September 17, 2023, 02:55:13 pm »
well russell's fucked that right up.

really smart driving from sainz. there was some talk about 3 races ago that he was 'shite' but since then he's done a fine job.

Not sure who came out with that, but Sainz is in no way "shite".  Brilliant tactical drive that.  Just nice to see someone other than Max win.     

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1893 on: September 17, 2023, 02:57:45 pm »
Not sure who came out with that, but Sainz is in no way "shite".  Brilliant tactical drive that.  Just nice to see someone other than Max win.     

idiots everywhere unfortunately.

no idea when there was last an F1 race where the top 4 were that close at the end and the winner wasn't certain.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1894 on: September 17, 2023, 02:59:32 pm »
What a drive from Sainz. Ferrari put an end to the streak of Red Bull

Good drive from Lando, Russell :lmao

Max still finishes fifth.

That was epic from Sainz, took some balls to do what he did there by keeping Norris in DRS

Easy to say with hindsight but I actually think Red Bull fucked up, deciding to go long on the hard tyres on a track where safety cars are so common seemed very risky as they wouldn’t be able to get a cheap stop.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1895 on: September 17, 2023, 03:05:39 pm »
idiots everywhere unfortunately.

no idea when there was last an F1 race where the top 4 were that close at the end and the winner wasn't certain.

The strange thing is that a lot of people who think that Carlos is crap also think that Lando is brilliant, despite Sainz beating Norris two years straight in the same machinery.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1896 on: September 17, 2023, 03:24:01 pm »
Liam Lawson doing all he can to keep that seat. Great to see.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1897 on: September 17, 2023, 03:37:56 pm »
Liam Lawson doing all he can to keep that seat. Great to see.

he's done really well since he came in, there's probably a few at RB/AT who would prefer him to keep the job.

it looked to my untrained eye that hamilton was faster than russell at the end, I wonder if he'd have been able to do a better job against norris at the end. probably not but you never know.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1898 on: September 17, 2023, 05:10:10 pm »
he's done really well since he came in, there's probably a few at RB/AT who would prefer him to keep the job.

it looked to my untrained eye that hamilton was faster than russell at the end, I wonder if he'd have been able to do a better job against norris at the end. probably not but you never know.

Yeah, I think Russel had chewed through his tyres by the end of the race as his rear was sliding about quite a bit  where as Hamilton has become very good over years at looking after his tyres and his traction when he was exiting corners still looked pretty decent.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1899 on: September 18, 2023, 08:56:50 am »
Agree with you both on the Russell/Hamilton thing.  Lewis was practically pushing him around and then there was the 'George needs to hurry up' radio message.  Had it been earlier in the race, I think that Merc may have swapped them over, with the understanding that if Lewis couldn't get Norris, then they would swap back.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1900 on: September 18, 2023, 09:10:47 am »
Agree with you both on the Russell/Hamilton thing.  Lewis was practically pushing him around and then there was the 'George needs to hurry up' radio message.  Had it been earlier in the race, I think that Merc may have swapped them over, with the understanding that if Lewis couldn't get Norris, then they would swap back.

Yeah. Pretty sure that would have happened if there had been 10+ laps left. Hamilton is a master of looking after his tyres. In fairness Max seems to have that in his locker as well. A driving style thing perhaps
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1901 on: September 18, 2023, 09:39:57 am »
Missed the race live yesterday so had to watch the god awful highlights on C4, but how on earth did Perez escape that race without a penalty after ruining two other drivers race?
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1902 on: September 18, 2023, 09:58:25 am »
One of the best races of the season. Sainz played an absolute blinder those last half a dozen laps, thoroughly deserved the win.

And Jesus fuck Russell :o absolutely gutted for him but hopefully he'll learn from it.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1903 on: September 18, 2023, 10:03:59 am »
Sainz backing Norris into Russell was very smart. Russell would have caught Norris anyway but it was clever to give Norris the problem of having to defend against the Mercs.
Very good racecraft.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1904 on: September 18, 2023, 10:14:43 am »
He controlled it superbly, excellent drive from Sainz
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1905 on: September 18, 2023, 10:52:17 am »
Sainz backing Norris into Russell was very smart. Russell would have caught Norris anyway but it was clever to give Norris the problem of having to defend against the Mercs.
Very good racecraft.
It also gave Norris DRS down the straights which is where the Mercs would have their best overtaking opportunity. Very hard to overtake anywhere else as long as you position the car well.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1906 on: September 18, 2023, 10:56:00 am »
It also gave Norris DRS down the straights which is where the Mercs would have their best overtaking opportunity. Very had to overtake anywhere else as long as you position the car well.
and knew himself that even with DRS he could stay ahead in p1

Kind of reminded me of the time Thierry Boutsen won in Hungary from pole and it felt like the whole race Senna was behind him but he managed it.

Was great to see the red bull streak broken, the car was awful all weekend
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1907 on: September 18, 2023, 11:16:22 am »
and knew himself that even with DRS he could stay ahead in p1

Kind of reminded me of the time Thierry Boutsen won in Hungary from pole and it felt like the whole race Senna was behind him but he managed it.

Was great to see the red bull streak broken, the car was awful all weekend
Yup, it was a very mature and clever drive by Sainz. Mercedes probbaly played the better stratergy but Sainz outsmartered them on the track.

I'm very much looking forward to Suzuka to see how Red Bull bounce back. There were rumblings that a new TD that was issued before the weekend regarding flexible floors was affecting the Red Bull. Horner (as you'd expect) played it down and we know Singapore can be an outlier, but if Red Bull are off the pace next weekend it could be quite telling. 
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1908 on: September 18, 2023, 12:25:42 pm »
I'm very much looking forward to Suzuka to see how Red Bull bounce back. There were rumblings that a new TD that was issued before the weekend regarding flexible floors was affecting the Red Bull. Horner (as you'd expect) played it down and we know Singapore can be an outlier, but if Red Bull are off the pace next weekend it could be quite telling. 
Verstappen and RB are so far ahead of the pack that both titles are inevitable but...

Would be absolutely fantastic if their combined dominance was curtailed for the remainder of the season and we got more racing like the weekend!

Could make the race for 2nd spot a spicy one too!
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1909 on: September 18, 2023, 12:28:50 pm »
RB have been saying for ages that they expected Singapore to be their worst race so they seem to have thought something about it wouldn't suit their car.

I fully expect the verstappen win streak to start again in suzuka.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1910 on: September 18, 2023, 03:37:59 pm »
Yup, it was a very mature and clever drive by Sainz. Mercedes probbaly played the better stratergy but Sainz outsmartered them on the track.

I'm very much looking forward to Suzuka to see how Red Bull bounce back. There were rumblings that a new TD that was issued before the weekend regarding flexible floors was affecting the Red Bull. Horner (as you'd expect) played it down and we know Singapore can be an outlier, but if Red Bull are off the pace next weekend it could be quite telling. 
Yeah Mercedes pretty much broke even with that call, came very close to winning, if they hadnt stopped they wouldnt have passed anyone anyway

Aston Martin were well off it too I thought. Accident or not Stroll actually wasnt improving his time and was going out in Q3 anyway.

Alonso took forever to get past a limping Red bull and ultimately finished last
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1911 on: September 18, 2023, 04:17:44 pm »
RB have been saying for ages that they expected Singapore to be their worst race so they seem to have thought something about it wouldn't suit their car.

I fully expect the verstappen win streak to start again in suzuka.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1912 on: September 20, 2023, 12:59:50 pm »
Piastri has extended with McLaren until 2026. Good move all round, he’s clearly a very talented driver and McLaren as a team have been steadily improving over the last couple of years. Good move for all concerned. I do like Piastri, he’s very level headed.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1913 on: September 20, 2023, 01:48:59 pm »
Yeah like him a lot. He's clearly got his eye on the #1 seat.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1914 on: September 22, 2023, 11:47:04 am »
As will come as a shock to absolutely no one here, the FIA have admitted it did not apply the correct procedure to the penalty Verstappen and Sargeant got in Singapore and that both should have been given a 3 place grid penalty rather than a reprimand and $5000 fine.

Red Bull and Williams had both said that it was a mistake on the pitwall and a lack of communication to the drivers rather than a driver mistake. The precedent being that in future, teams could deliberately not tell drivers about backmarkers or hot lap driving cars, impede and then only get a slap on the wrist.

That has been clarified by the FIA as not what they plan to do going forward and that drivers will be penalised regardless of what the driver and teams do.

Drivers like Grand Prix Drivers Association director George Russell has called for clearer communication by race stewards, race director and the FIA in terms of punishments and Lando Norris has said that the penalties need to be harsher as it doesn't appear to be punishing certain teams enough (*Cough* Red Bull *Cough*)

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1915 on: September 23, 2023, 07:33:42 am »
What a lap in q1 from Lawson.

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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1916 on: September 23, 2023, 08:16:08 am »
Ugh.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1917 on: September 23, 2023, 08:16:39 am »
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1918 on: September 23, 2023, 08:17:23 am »
Max back to wiping the floor with everyone haha. So impressive. And McLarens still impressing and still being on the front row is just so joyous.

Sergio though, ouch.
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Re: Formula One - The 2023 Season
« Reply #1919 on: September 23, 2023, 08:18:49 am »
Max is on another level.