Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[TepidT2O]

After two and a half years the bastard has finally got me 

Sorry to hear that.

Get well soon….

[The G in Gerrard]

After two and a half years the bastard has finally got me 

I was the same but got it few weeks back. The actual symptoms weren't anything of concern for me. It was afterwards and the tiredness and getting rid of this cough although some of that is down to seasonality.

Will get my booster later this year due to being deemed as "asthmatic"

Get better soon.

[67CherryRed]

After two and a half years the bastard has finally got me 

Yeah, same. Felt a bit dodgy yesterday but tested negative so went in to the office for the afternoon, but I've tested positive today. Means I don't need to go in to work tomorrow so every cloud...

[So… Howard Philips]

Anti lockdown protesters sentenced for intimidating BBC journalist;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62726297

Just look at the kip of them. Casting central weirdos.

[Mahern]

Anti lockdown protesters sentenced for intimidating BBC journalist;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62726297

Just look at the kip of them. Casting central weirdos.

3rd one looks like the guy from Death in Paradise Kris Marshall

[So… Howard Philips]

3rd one looks like the guy from Death in Paradise Kris Marshall

Kris Marshall eliminating a square turd.

[RainbowFlick]

talking of lockdown protestors, i saw Piers Corbyn and one other person (a woman, not sure if she's 'known') randomly protesting lockdowns outside... Notting Hill Carnival!?!! lol

[So… Howard Philips]

talking of lockdown protestors, i saw Piers Corbyn and one other person (a woman, not sure if she's 'known') randomly protesting lockdowns outside... Notting Hill Carnival!?!! lol

Getting down with the kids no doubt.

[PaulF]

419 deaths in the last seven days. I assume with summer now in the rear view mirror we'll see that ticking back up ☹️

[Jiminy Cricket]

419 deaths in the last seven days. I assume with summer now in the rear view mirror we'll see that ticking back up ☹️

Everyone seems to be assuming COVID is over. Although the disease was/is expected to tend towards milder variants over time, there still may be more dangerous variants in the interim. And as we know, neither are prior infections and/or vaccinations guaranteed to provide good protection against a future variant. I don't know for how long we need to live with COVID before we should feel confident. But from the (very) little I know, I don't think we are there yet.

[Red Beret]

Everyone seems to be assuming COVID is over. Although the disease was/is expected to tend towards milder variants over time, there still may be more dangerous variants in the interim. And as we know, neither are prior infections and/or vaccinations guaranteed to provide good protection against a future variant. I don't know for how long we need to live with COVID before we should feel confident. But from the (very) little I know, I don't think we are there yet.

I'd say that most people consider Covid to be "over" in the sense that the NHS is not in danger of imminent collapse. Catching it is inevitable at this point, and it's unfortunately just pot luck as to whether you get a serious variant or a milder one. 

[RainbowFlick]

Getting down with the kids no doubt.

was getting heckled by everyone passing, thankfully.

[PaulF]

I wonder if the Queue (TM) will be a mass spreader event.

[Wabaloolah]

There's a dramatised programme on Sky Atlantic that really shows how much of a fuck up the Tories made of the pandemic.

Johnson is played by Kenneth Brannagh, it's called This England and it will make you hate the fuckers even more

[Fromola]

There's a dramatised programme on Sky Atlantic that really shows how much of a fuck up the Tories made of the pandemic.

Johnson is played by Kenneth Brannagh, it's called This England and it will make you hate the fuckers even more

He got all the big calls right.

[Lusty]

There's a dramatised programme on Sky Atlantic that really shows how much of a fuck up the Tories made of the pandemic.

Johnson is played by Kenneth Brannagh, it's called This England and it will make you hate the fuckers even more

I've avoided it because in the adverts it looks like a puff piece.  Either way I'm not sure I could get through it all without launching something at the screen.

[Red-Soldier]

I guess this could go in the Tory thread too:

Bereaved families fear Covid inquiry cover-up after ban on testimony

As hearings open this week, relatives are told they will not be able to speak about hospital care standards

Families of those who died from Covid-19 have been barred from submitting individual testimony to the official public inquiry about the standard of care received by their loved ones during the pandemic, the Observer can reveal.

Instead, the inquiry chair, Lady Hallett, is proposing they submit “pen portraits” to a private research company as part of a parallel “Listening Project” that will not have the power to demand the disclosure of documents or investigate claims about their relatives’ care.

“It would appear that Lady Hallett would rather outsource the grief of bereaved families to the Listening Project than engage with us constructively,” said John Sullivan, whose daughter, Susan, died in March 2020 at Barnet hospital after being denied access to an intensive therapy unit because of her Down’s syndrome and supposed cardiac comorbidities. “The inquiry is becoming a farce and an exercise in cover-up,” he said, ahead of the first hearing on Tuesday.

Sullivan is just one of scores of bereaved people who believe their loved ones were victims of inappropriate triaging procedures and Do Not Attempt Resuscitation (DNAR) or Do Not Attempt Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation (DNACPR) orders.

Such orders are used to inform a medical team not to attempt resuscitation and are designed to communicate a patient’s wishes to healthcare professionals. Any decision regarding DNARs must be made on an individual basis with the involvement of the patient and/or their families, where they have legal guardianship.

Independent reports have revealed that adults with learning disabilities had been subject to inappropriate DNAR orders, while some GPs had apparently requested DNAR forms be inserted into the files of care home residents using a “blanket approach”.

The Observer has now learned of similar cases of DNAR orders being applied to elderly individuals hospitalised with Covid.

For instance, Rab Sherwood, who works for the Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice (CBFFJ) activist group, which spearheaded the campaign for an independent public inquiry, claims that when her elderly parents were admitted to a hospital in the West Midlands with Covid in January 2021, DNAR orders were placed on their medical notes against her express wishes.

When Sherwood demanded an explanation as to why her mother, Gurdev, a fit 75-year-old, would not be considered for admission to ITU, a consultant handed her a document produced by the Intensive Care Society containing a “decision-making” instrument setting out various scenarios in which frail and elderly people might be “less likely to benefit” from intensive care. When she queried the document, Sherwood claims she was told: “If you have an issue, take it up with the government.”

Matt Fowler, the co-founder of CBFFJ, says he’s heard countless stories of hospitals refusing to escalate treatment for elderly and vulnerable people. “This is why it’s so critical that Lady Hallett listens personally to the stories of bereaved families and is fearless in the pursuit of answers about what happened to their loved ones, no matter how uncomfortable,” he said. “If the inquiry leaves bereaved families out in the cold, it has no hope of getting to the truth and learning lessons that can protect people in the future.”

Under the inquiry’s terms of reference, Hallett has a duty to listen to and “carefully” consider the experiences of bereaved families. However, there is no specific requirement for her to consider “individual cases of harm or death”.

This summer, lawyers representing the CBFFJ met Hallett in the hope of persuading her to accept individual testimony from the bereaved. In correspondence seen by the Observer, CBFFJ’s lawyers, Broudie Jackson Canter, agreed this could be done “outside the formality of a hearing” in order to avoid Hallett having to listen to testimony from many witnesses. However, lawyers insisted that the pen portraits and testimony submitted as part of the Listening Project ought to be treated as evidence and entered into the legal record.

“The voices of the bereaved are too important to be heard in another parallel process,” they wrote.

However, last week Hallett appeared to close down that avenue by inviting 12 firms on a pre-approved government list to tender for the Listening Project. The list includes firms previously awarded Covid public health contracts, presenting a potential conflict of interests.

The Observer understands that the winner of the contract will be asked to analyse the bereaved statements and summarise them in a report to the inquiry. However, there will be no requirement for Hallett to listen directly to individual accounts from the bereaved or examine the circumstances surrounding their loved ones’ deaths. Nor will lawyers be funded to compile dossiers on the cases.

A spokesperson for the inquiry said that although it “will not consider in detail individual cases of harm or death, listening to these accounts will inform its understanding of the impact of the pandemic and the response, and of the lessons to be learned”.

She also stressed that the inquiry “has made no decisions on which witnesses to call at its public hearings” and was at “a very early stage”.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/02/bereaved-families-fear-covid-inquiry-cover-up-after-ban-on-testimony

[redbyrdz]

Its pretty mental to have an inquiry and not hear all the evidence.

[TSC]

I guess this could go in the Tory thread too:

Bereaved families fear Covid inquiry cover-up after ban on testimony

As hearings open this week, relatives are told they will not be able to speak about hospital care standards

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/02/bereaved-families-fear-covid-inquiry-cover-up-after-ban-on-testimony

Cover-up incoming. What a surprise.

[Wabaloolah]

100% there'll be a cover up / stitch up, call it what you like. I'll also be amazed if there's an outcome before the next Election as they won't be allowed to be seen as influencing the vote in something that should be critical of the government 's handling

[So… Howard Philips]

100% there'll be a cover up / stitch up, call it what you like. I'll also be amazed if there's an outcome before the next Election as they won't be allowed to be seen as influencing the vote in something that should be critical of the government 's handling

Hillsborough all over again.

Edit - and the decades long blood contamination scandal.

[So… Howard Philips]

Read a report about Dr Xand Van Tulleken (won’t post the link due to the source) who suffered severe atrial fibrillation post Covid.

Whilst my Covid was fairly mild six weeks later I had the same problem and spent two nights in hospital or bring my heart rate down from over 170 bpm. I’m due a heart scan at the end of the month and hope there is no long term damage.

Just the sniffles, hey?

[thaddeus]

100% there'll be a cover up / stitch up, call it what you like. I'll also be amazed if there's an outcome before the next Election as they won't be allowed to be seen as influencing the vote in something that should be critical of the government 's handling

Even if it's released and is damning they will put it all on Johnson, Hancock and Sunak.  That Tory party ceased to exist on 6th September, don't ya know?

[Wabaloolah]

Read a report about Dr Xand Van Tulleken (won’t post the link due to the source) who suffered severe atrial fibrillation post Covid.

Whilst my Covid was fairly mild six weeks later I had the same problem and spent two nights in hospital or bring my heart rate down from over 170 bpm. I’m due a heart scan at the end of the month and hope there is no long term damage.

Just the sniffles, hey?

sounds horrendous matey, fingers crossed you get the all clear

[thejbs]

Mother in law (70) has had heart trouble since getting covid. They can’t/won’t say if it’s linked.

[So… Howard Philips]

Mother in law (70) has had heart trouble since getting covid. They can’t/won’t say if it’s linked.

The evidence seems to be growing.

https://heart.bmj.com/content/108/12/902

But it’s no worse than a bad cold, so that’s alright.

[thejbs]

The evidence seems to be growing.

https://heart.bmj.com/content/108/12/902

But it’s no worse than a bad cold, so that’s alright.

There’s also the report on memory loss issues out today. My mum has had short term memory issues since a bad bout of covid in 2020.

[Libertine]

The fucker finally got me.

No idea how, I'm presuming at work. Feel proper rough for the last 24 hours.

[So… Howard Philips]

There’s also the report on memory loss issues out today. My mum has had short term memory issues since a bad bout of covid in 2020.

Had brain fog and short term memory loss but only for a month or so and seems to have cleared up.

[sunny_LFC]

Have it now, second time, first being just before and then all of Xmas 2020

Had 2 vaccines but yet to have booster

Anyway, two days of bed bound hell, pain, chills, cough, runny nose. This time including short breath, for a reasonably healthy thirty something

Started Saturday night and better now, but just lost all taste and smell

This bitch ain’t going away any time soon

[redbyrdz]

I've caught this now In 304 against Rangers would be most likely, even though the incubation period would only be 2 days.

What is the current recommendation regarding paracetamol/ibuprofen etc? I mostly have a sore throat and high temperature, thankfully my lungs still feel fine.

[sheepfest]

I've caught this now In 304 against Rangers would be most likely, even though the incubation period would only be 2 days.

What is the current recommendation regarding paracetamol/ibuprofen etc? I mostly have a sore throat and high temperature, thankfully my lungs still feel fine.

Take lots of fluid onboard. No real recommendation for paracetamol or ibuprofen but paracetamol is generally seen to have less rare side effects so NHS advises to start with that.
Finally lots of rest.

[redbyrdz]

Take lots of fluid onboard. No real recommendation for paracetamol or ibuprofen but paracetamol is generally seen to have less rare side effects so NHS advises to start with that.
Finally lots of rest.

Ta, doing that. Just hope it doesn't get any worse.

[TSC]

Covid on the rise but obviously don’t expect the current government to do much let alone acknowledge it

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-cases-uk-guidance-b2197755.html

[Barneylfc∗]

NI Civil Service has now stopped giving special paid leave for those off with Covid. Normal sickness policies apply 

[Wabaloolah]

NI Civil Service has now stopped giving special paid leave for those off with Covid. Normal sickness policies apply 

6 months full pay, Six months half? Or have the government reduced that now?

[Barneylfc∗]

6 months full pay, Six months half? Or have the government reduced that now?

It's more to do with being off with Covid now having the potential to lead to disciplinary action. Previously it counted towards the triggers, but no action would be taken if Covid played any part. Now it's just dealt with like any other sickness.

[RedSince86]

I've caught this now In 304 against Rangers would be most likely, even though the incubation period would only be 2 days.

What is the current recommendation regarding paracetamol/ibuprofen etc? I mostly have a sore throat and high temperature, thankfully my lungs still feel fine.

I'm at the end of it now, had symptoms last friday night starting with a heavy cold that turned into a cough and sore throat at weekend, Monday was torrid with the constant aches and headaches, by Wednesday the aches and feeling weak started to subside, just left with a dry itchy cough now, have the odd coughing fit but it's sorted when i have some cold water.

I was staggering the Paracetemols, taking a couple every 4 hours, didn't touch any Ibuprofens.

I don't know how anyone can walk around being unvaccinated, the vaccine stops it going to your lungs and doing serious damage.

Get well soon.

[redbyrdz]

I'm at the end of it now, had symptoms last friday night starting with a heavy cold that turned into a cough and sore throat at weekend, Monday was torrid with the constant aches and headaches, by Wednesday the aches and feeling weak started to subside, just left with a dry itchy cough now, have the odd coughing fit but it's sorted when i have some cold water.

I was staggering the Paracetemols, taking a couple every 4 hours, didn't touch any Ibuprofens.

I don't know how anyone can walk around being unvaccinated, the vaccine stops it going to your lungs and doing serious damage.

Get well soon.

Thanks! Had some paracetamol, which means I'm sort of functioning, hah.

Glad you're feeling better. Its a weird illness, hard to predict how it'll turn out. To be honest while I'm not feeling great right now, I'm more worried about long covid.

[Red-Soldier]

It's more to do with being off with Covid now having the potential to lead to disciplinary action. Previously it counted towards the triggers, but no action would be taken if Covid played any part. Now it's just dealt with like any other sickness.

What are the issues with this?