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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25160 on: June 29, 2022, 01:06:37 pm »
No you don't. There will be more than enough people who attended all games in that season to fill the final ticket allocation.
If you don't attend all the games (for whatever reason) then you shouldn't be 'entitled' to a final ticket.

Pretty much. If the end game is to 'reward' the people that go through the turnstile, then there shouldn't really be any exceptions.
What if this, what if that, what if the other isn't relevant.
If someone misses a game because of a holiday, why did they book a holiday in the first place? If you can't go due to work commitments, that's just the way it is.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25161 on: June 29, 2022, 01:22:57 pm »
Pretty much. If the end game is to 'reward' the people that go through the turnstile, then there shouldn't really be any exceptions.
What if this, what if that, what if the other isn't relevant.
If someone misses a game because of a holiday, why did they book a holiday in the first place? If you can't go due to work commitments, that's just the way it is.

People have lives to be fair mate. Canít all spend their time with millions of posts here refusing to book holidays until tv dates are announced.

Itís like taking a season ticket off someone for missing one game.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25162 on: June 29, 2022, 01:24:09 pm »
No you don't. There will be more than enough people who attended all games in that season to fill the final ticket allocation.
If you don't attend all the games (for whatever reason) then you shouldn't be 'entitled' to a final ticket.

This is too logical for the club to introduce! I 100% agree

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« Reply #25163 on: June 29, 2022, 01:34:28 pm »
People have lives to be fair mate. Canít all spend their time with millions of posts here refusing to book holidays until tv dates are announced.

Itís like taking a season ticket off someone for missing one game.

Thats all well and good for league games, people won't lose a season ticket for missing 1 game.
But if you take a holiday over a champions League fixture, when the dates are more or less known a year in advance, then you've no right to complain.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25164 on: June 29, 2022, 01:58:36 pm »
People have lives to be fair mate. Canít all spend their time with millions of posts here refusing to book holidays until tv dates are announced.

Itís like taking a season ticket off someone for missing one game.

You'd get the same response off someone who fucks the group games off cos they cba then comes back for the knockouts

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25165 on: June 29, 2022, 02:21:25 pm »
I think they should limit transfers to say 10-20 F&F (which has to be confirmed pre-season), and then have say a max of 3 transfers a season (credit stays with you). That way you allow some leeway for those who do have genuine reasons for not being able to attend.

If you stop the credit hunting then you'll hopefully release more tickets and help others attend on their own memberships and therefore get the credit.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25166 on: June 29, 2022, 02:27:59 pm »
Thats all well and good for league games, people won't lose a season ticket for missing 1 game.
But if you take a holiday over a champions League fixture, when the dates are more or less known a year in advance, then you've no right to complain.

Not everyone works 9-5. I know someone who works in the fire service, he has a seasie, but will inevitably miss a few games a season, as fires can still happen when Liverpool play a match. He would have to take a work holiday for every shift that clashed with a possible CL date just to be sure, which is just not realistic. I imagine it would be the same in other emergency services too with shift work.

It would be incredibly hard for someone in that situation. We will all clap for you during the pandemic, but when it comes to getting a final ticket, even if you have the credits, you can fuck right off.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25167 on: June 29, 2022, 02:33:43 pm »
Not everyone works 9-5. I know someone who works in the fire service, he has a seasie, but will inevitably miss a few games a season, as fires can still happen when Liverpool play a match. He would have to take a work holiday for every shift that clashed with a possible CL date just to be sure, which is just not realistic. I imagine it would be the same in other emergency services too with shift work.

It would be incredibly hard for someone in that situation. We will all clap for you during the pandemic, but when it comes to getting a final ticket, even if you have the credits, you can fuck right off.

Someone's profession isn't relevant though is it? It's whether they go to the required amount of games or not.

If the club started listening to sob stories or individual circumstances, then they'd get nowhere.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25168 on: June 29, 2022, 02:38:03 pm »
Someone's profession isn't relevant though is it? It's whether they go to the required amount of games or not.

If the club started listening to sob stories or individual circumstances, then they'd get nowhere.

Exactly mate, he should not be allowed a shot at a final ticket as he has to work shifts saving people's lives. Really if he had any sort of morals he would hand his ST back. Same as the shift workers in the NHS and that.
What we want is a crowd of middle class office workers, who only work 9-5, and have access to a computer during their work day to log on for tickets.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25169 on: June 29, 2022, 02:49:27 pm »
Dates of the champions League are known fair enough, but we don't know when we are home or away. Also we've got a holiday that's running related that's moved from 2020 to 2021 to 2022. Anything can and will happen, if there is a hard and fast rule that it has to be you who enters to get to "credit" fair enough.

I look forward to the same happening with away tickets too (and STH)

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« Reply #25170 on: June 29, 2022, 02:57:36 pm »
Exactly mate, he should not be allowed a shot at a final ticket as he has to work shifts saving people's lives. Really if he had any sort of morals he would hand his ST back. Same as the shift workers in the NHS and that.
What we want is a crowd of middle class office workers, who only work 9-5, and have access to a computer during their work day to log on for tickets.

What about the supermarket staff that worked all through the pandemic? If they don't work, the shops that people need to buy their food from don't open. Pretty essential staff I would think.
The lorry drivers that deliver the food to the supermarkets so people can buy it?
The kitchen staff in your mate's fire station?
The mechanics that keep their engines in working order?
The suppliers of parts for their engines?
All pretty essential staff there that carry out essential jobs. Just hand them a ticket too?
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25171 on: June 29, 2022, 03:02:10 pm »
What about the supermarket staff that worked all through the pandemic? If they don't work, the shops that people need to buy their food from don't open. Pretty essential staff I would think.
The lorry drivers that deliver the food to the supermarkets so people can buy it?
The kitchen staff in your mate's fire station?
The mechanics that keep their engines in working order?
The suppliers of parts for their engines?
All pretty essential staff there that carry out essential jobs. Just hand them a ticket too?

No ones talking about handing anyone a ticket are they? Except you just now. Why did you twist it?

People were talking about if someone has to miss the odd game, they would be off the ladder for a final - despite years of credits. I said that was incredibly harsh on someone that did not work 9-5. You appear to think they should be fucked off.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25172 on: June 29, 2022, 03:07:10 pm »
No ones talking about handing anyone a ticket are they? Except you just now. Why did you twist it?

People were talking about if someone has to miss the odd game, they would be off the ladder for a final - despite years of credits. I said that was incredibly harsh on someone that did not work 9-5. You appear to think they should be fucked off.

Everyone who isn't in the exact circumstances I am should be.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25173 on: June 29, 2022, 03:14:13 pm »
Everyone who isn't in the exact circumstances I am should be.

That is the attitude some appear to have, and not consider anyone else could have a different set of circumstances.

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« Reply #25174 on: June 29, 2022, 03:22:21 pm »
That is the attitude some appear to have, and not consider anyone else could have a different set of circumstances.

It's an absolute minefield. The club cannot win

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25175 on: June 29, 2022, 03:28:13 pm »
Why people feel entitled to miss matches and still get the credit towards finals is beyond me

Everyone has their own circumstances, bet they find the time to book the final off and the big 6 in the league, but dont book off Norwich at home mid week  :butt

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« Reply #25176 on: June 29, 2022, 03:33:40 pm »
Exactly mate, he should not be allowed a shot at a final ticket as he has to work shifts saving people's lives. Really if he had any sort of morals he would hand his ST back. Same as the shift workers in the NHS and that.
What we want is a crowd of middle class office workers, who only work 9-5, and have access to a computer during their work day to log on for tickets.

What a really weird point you are making here.

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« Reply #25177 on: June 29, 2022, 03:37:07 pm »
No ones talking about handing anyone a ticket are they? Except you just now. Why did you twist it?

People were talking about if someone has to miss the odd game, they would be off the ladder for a final - despite years of credits. I said that was incredibly harsh on someone that did not work 9-5. You appear to think they should be fucked off.

No ones talking about middle class 9-5 office workers except you. Why did you twist it?

Plenty of people that aren't middle class get tickets. Plenty of people that don't work 9-5 get tickets.  Plenty of people that aren't office workers get tickets. 

But the fact is that if someone doesn't attend a game for whatever reason, shouldn't expect to have the same entitlement to a final ticket as someone that has attended them all.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25178 on: June 29, 2022, 05:29:03 pm »
No ones talking about middle class 9-5 office workers except you. Why did you twist it?

Plenty of people that aren't middle class get tickets. Plenty of people that don't work 9-5 get tickets.  Plenty of people that aren't office workers get tickets. 

But the fact is that if someone doesn't attend a game for whatever reason, shouldn't expect to have the same entitlement to a final ticket as someone that has attended them all.
Youíll never be able to police it unless you go to the extreme suggested earlier in the thread that the credit is only attributed to the person who actually attends the match. The club will never do that for all the reasons outlined above.

There is no right of wrong answer. Sometimes youíll be lucky in semi final / final ballots and sometimes you wonít.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25179 on: June 29, 2022, 05:32:43 pm »
No ones talking about middle class 9-5 office workers except you. Why did you twist it?

Plenty of people that aren't middle class get tickets. Plenty of people that don't work 9-5 get tickets.  Plenty of people that aren't office workers get tickets. 

But the fact is that if someone doesn't attend a game for whatever reason, shouldn't expect to have the same entitlement to a final ticket as someone that has attended them all.

And the same should go for away tickets. But it doesn't

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25180 on: June 29, 2022, 06:17:41 pm »
It's an absolute minefield. The club cannot win

Pretty much

Everyone wants to go
Nobody wants a reason they can't go
Nobody wants to concede there may be more important things
Nobody wants to concede if you go it means nothing if you go and do not SING
everybody has conditions lol

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Best policy innit. Try. We aren't gonna solve this in here.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25181 on: June 29, 2022, 08:38:52 pm »
Myself and 3 friends took out membership today in the hope of getting tickets for a few games in the ballots. Do we have to do anything else, or will we automatically be entered in the ballot? Cheers

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« Reply #25182 on: June 29, 2022, 09:22:03 pm »
Myself and 3 friends took out membership today in the hope of getting tickets for a few games in the ballots. Do we have to do anything else, or will we automatically be entered in the ballot? Cheers

If you're serious. Yes. You will need to "opt in" to the games you want to attend.

Nobody knows when this will be open for members

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« Reply #25183 on: June 29, 2022, 10:12:44 pm »
If you're serious. Yes. You will need to "opt in" to the games you want to attend.

Nobody knows when this will be open for members
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25184 on: June 30, 2022, 01:06:00 am »
Why people feel entitled to miss matches and still get the credit towards finals is beyond me

Everyone has their own circumstances, bet they find the time to book the final off and the big 6 in the league, but dont book off Norwich at home mid week  :butt

ThisÖ

I work shifts too. Sometimes it falls nicely, sometimes I have to take leave or swap shift.
Lucky I work with good people I guess that Iím pretty much always sorted for the cups. I could never make all the league games though. Thatís just how it goes.

Itís really boring though that all these people that think they should be allowed to miss games and keep the credit are ALWAYS able to go to a cup final. Weird eh?
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25185 on: June 30, 2022, 01:39:18 am »
Might sound a daft question but Iv never had to really think about it until now, my lad is coming of age to start going games with me. If I get him a junior membership, would I only be able to take him in the allocated ďadult and child sectionĒ or would o be able to get him a ticket in kop etc ?


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« Reply #25186 on: June 30, 2022, 03:08:38 am »
I was thinking about this recently too, if Iím on 13 plus & I get the little one a membership, how does that work? We wonít be able to buy in the same sale. And I could essentially not end up with 13plus games in trying to sit next to them. I have a good few years yet!

I think you can buy adult/junior anywhere across the stadium now (I may be wrong) 

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« Reply #25187 on: June 30, 2022, 04:40:09 am »
Might sound a daft question but Iv never had to really think about it until now, my lad is coming of age to start going games with me. If I get him a junior membership, would I only be able to take him in the allocated ďadult and child sectionĒ or would o be able to get him a ticket in kop etc ?
you can get tickets anywhere but have to pay full price, adult and junior sections are where you can get kids prices, although last season you could buy kids anywhere so not sure if that will change or not

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« Reply #25188 on: June 30, 2022, 05:14:14 am »
you can get tickets anywhere but have to pay full price, adult and junior sections are where you can get kids prices, although last season you could buy kids anywhere so not sure if that will change or not


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« Reply #25189 on: June 30, 2022, 06:58:11 am »
Might sound a daft question but Iv never had to really think about it until now, my lad is coming of age to start going games with me. If I get him a junior membership, would I only be able to take him in the allocated ďadult and child sectionĒ or would o be able to get him a ticket in kop etc ?

you can get tickets anywhere but have to pay full price, adult and junior sections are where you can get kids prices, although last season you could buy kids anywhere so not sure if that will change or not

This is actually incorrect but your 2nd bit is correct, you can get junior tickets anywhere in the ground now (a strange ruling in a court about Tottenham discriminating against disabled forcing them to go into a set section) and you've been able to buy kids anywhere for the last couple seasons

What I would say tho is if your kid is young he'll probably complain he cant see all game because people are stood up. And unless you're in 13+ or in the auto cups already (which a new junior membership wouldnt be) then you've pretty much 0% chance of getting KOP tickets as they'd sell out before the ballot sale

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« Reply #25190 on: June 30, 2022, 07:00:58 am »
Info for auto cup will be out today or tomorrow, I'd expect there to be some information about passing on tickets to be published along with this as they won't want people signing up to ACS if they have no intention of going and then find they can't pass it on

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« Reply #25191 on: June 30, 2022, 11:06:19 am »
Details are out

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25192 on: June 30, 2022, 11:12:16 am »
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/members-with-13-or-more-games

still a bit confused the need for pre-registering really but maybe it's just so they can do a bit of maths in advance to know what will be available
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« Reply #25193 on: June 30, 2022, 11:27:39 am »
Tight enough window for registration. Only from 10am Monday 4th to 7.30am Thursday 7th
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« Reply #25194 on: June 30, 2022, 11:31:48 am »
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/members-with-13-or-more-games

still a bit confused the need for pre-registering really but maybe it's just so they can do a bit of maths in advance to know what will be available

esp as you could miss registering for a game and then not be able to buy...why not do the guaranteed sale early next week and ballot registry end of the week so that they know exact numbers for the week after.

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« Reply #25195 on: June 30, 2022, 11:38:22 am »
esp as you could miss registering for a game and then not be able to buy...why not do the guaranteed sale early next week and ballot registry end of the week so that they know exact numbers for the week after.

Yep no reason at all for it, just delay the ballot a few days to get the numbers. All this will do is catch people out registering and boom thatís a 13+ person out the guaranteed sale.

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« Reply #25196 on: June 30, 2022, 11:41:50 am »
https://twitter.com/michael48625587/status/1536657514086993921?s=21&t=q3vODvtktn8SM97kiTGbNw
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Just going first game, City and Chelsea, whatís the odds the others he keeps to go are just Utd and the last home game?


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« Reply #25197 on: June 30, 2022, 11:42:45 am »
https://twitter.com/michael48625587/status/1536657514086993921?s=21&t=q3vODvtktn8SM97kiTGbNw
£1500 🙃

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Just going first game, City and Chelsea, whatís the odds the others he keeps to go are just Utd and the last home game?

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« Reply #25198 on: June 30, 2022, 11:43:25 am »
"Going travelling in a few weeks time so looking to sell these on so I can keep my membership credits"

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #25199 on: June 30, 2022, 11:50:47 am »

But the fact is that if someone doesn't attend a game for whatever reason, shouldn't expect to have the same entitlement to a final ticket as someone that has attended them all.
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