Topic: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt)

[Samie]

Some weird things going on in here. If people think its just the Pickford tackle that has ruined him but I don't think it's just that... There wasn't much of a problem last season. What I find bizarre is the decision making. Where is he going for the Bournemouth goal? Its not just that it's the Man Utd goal at OT amongst other bizarre moments. Also before his injury he was having a weird old season. Started the games v Villa when we lost 7-2 and the Leeds 4-3 win which we just dismissed as fatigue or over confidence.

He was fantastic last season, what the  fuck you on about?

[KevLFC]

He was fantastic last season, what the  fuck you on about?

He was good last season. I see lots on here blaming Pickford tackle for poor performances.

[FlashGordon]

He was good last season. I see lots on here blaming Pickford tackle for poor performances.

Yeah he did his ACL in his late 20s early 30s, but that has nothing to do with the best centre back I've ever seen suddenly throwing in a shocker or two.

[RyanBabel19]

I thought it was a perfectly weighted touch - one touch from the 18-yard box to the byline and sprinting he reaches the ball for the cross just before it goes out.  Not sure how many times out of 10 he could do that.

If that's how you saw the play that's completely fair but the main issue remains, it was (as with any play ever) not that good a passage of play you just dont even attempt to defend his run

Apply it to defending a cross, it doesn't always matter if you win the header, just being there affects the opposition players ability to play the ball where he wants to

Van Dijk is one of the best centre backs i've ever seen but the appearance of not being bothered is aggravating sometimes and he's far from the only one. That passage of play was shocking, again the guys farrrrr from finished but not bothering to even try is the opposite of our football IMO

[A-Bomb]

He was fantastic last season, what the  fuck you on about?

He was very good across the season, he was still second best to Matip though. Matip had probably his best most consistent season yet for us.

The very fact that VVD wasn't as good as Matip last year should indicate some drop off in overall quality since his injury. Despite Matips brilliant season last year, had VVD performed to the levels 3-4 years ago, Matip would still have finished second best and VVD likely up for awards again.

If i were to pick an arbitrary figure out my arse, I'd say VVD performances were 10% worse last season than at his best, and he's 10% worse this year than last. So we're seeing a trend in his performances.

I think we either drop deeper and protect our defence better or we may as well sell VVD in the summer and replace him as it's clear the days of controlling a high line because of the physical attributes of our current centre backs are long gone - It's now Konate + New CB if we wish to continue this approach.

[istvan kozma]

He was very good across the season, he was still second best to Matip though. Matip had probably his best most consistent season yet for us.

The very fact that VVD wasn't as good as Matip last year should indicate some drop off in overall quality since his injury. Despite Matips brilliant season last year, had VVD performed to the levels 3-4 years ago, Matip would still have finished second best and VVD likely up for awards again.

If i were to pick an arbitrary figure out my arse, I'd say VVD performances were 10% worse last season than at his best, and he's 10% worse this year than last. So we're seeing a trend in his performances.

I think we either drop deeper and protect our defence better or we may as well sell VVD in the summer and replace him as it's clear the days of controlling a high line because of the physical attributes of our current centre backs are long gone - It's now Konate + New CB if we wish to continue this approach.

The manager obviously disagreed, the biggest games at the back end of last season Matip was dropped for Konate.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Was Matips best season though.

[killer-heels]

Thought him and Konate played well.

[MonsLibpool]

Thought him and Konate played well.

Yeah. Unlucky for the goal.

[Sharado]

Virgil van Dijk on transfers:

“Obviously, players are going to leave. That’s been announced so if we want to be where we have been the last five years, we need quality imports, especially with those players leaving.” #lfc [james pearce - the athletic]

The squad are being quite open that they need help at this point.

[farawayred]

Can he string three sentences together without using "obvious" and "obviously"? Obviously not. 

[Sheer Magnetism]

I think it's a Northern European thing. I talk to a lot of Germans in my work and their sentences are peppered with 'clearly' and 'obviously'.

[TepidT2O]

Virgil van Dijk on transfers:

“Obviously, players are going to leave. That’s been announced so if we want to be where we have been the last five years, we need quality imports, especially with those players leaving.” #lfc [james pearce - the athletic]

The squad are being quite open that they need help at this point.

Well, Bobby AOC and Keita are absolutely leaving (and Milner is out of contract) so…. It’s not rocket science

[Fromola]

Well, Bobby AOC and Keita are absolutely leaving (and Milner is out of contract) so…. It’s not rocket science

Players leaving need replacing is a diplomatic way of saying we need better players which he blatantly is, specifically in midfield, given the reality of the players who are leaving.

Nobody would have noticed if Chamberlain and Keita left last summer, let alone this one, Arthur has barely kicked a ball for us and Gakpo is Firmino's replacement. Milner may or may not go but is strictly back up.

[Coolie High]

Virgil van Dijk on transfers:

“Obviously, players are going to leave. That’s been announced so if we want to be where we have been the last five years, we need quality imports, especially with those players leaving.” #lfc [james pearce - the athletic]

The squad are being quite open that they need help at this point.

Well they’re not stupid, they can see there hasn’t been enough investment at critical points just like us, and they’re only getting older the time for them to create a true dynasty like the great Liverpool teams of the past is running out.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Can he string three sentences together without using "obvious" and "obviously"? Obviously not. 

Footballers vocabulary is on pair with Donald Trump

[SamLad]

Can he string three sentences together without using "obvious" and "obviously"? Obviously not. 

how's your Dutch?

[mainone]

 double     A - “a-va-gaa”
B - “b-bee”
C - “c-va-gee”
D - “d-va-gee”
E - “e-va-gee”
F - “ev-a-gef”
G - “g-va-gee”
H - “h-va-gach”
I - “i-va-gi”
J - “j-va-gay”
K - “k-va-gay”
L - “ev-a-gel”
M - “ev-a-gem”
N - “ev-a-gen”
O - “o-va-go”
P - “p-va-ee”
Q - “q-va-gu”
R - “r-va-ga”
S - “ev-a-gess”
T - “t-iv-a-gee”
U - “u-va-gu”
V - “viv-a-gee”
W - “duvagub-buvagle-u-va-gu”
X - “ev-a-gex”
Y - “y-va-guy”
Z - “ziv-a-gee

[WhereAngelsPlay]

double     A - “a-va-gaa”
B - “b-bee”
C - “c-va-gee”
D - “d-va-gee”
E - “e-va-gee”
F - “ev-a-gef”
G - “g-va-gee”
H - “h-va-gach”
I - “i-va-gi”
J - “j-va-gay”
K - “k-va-gay”
L - “ev-a-gel”
M - “ev-a-gem”
N - “ev-a-gen”
O - “o-va-go”
P - “p-va-ee”
Q - “q-va-gu”
R - “r-va-ga”
S - “ev-a-gess”
T - “t-iv-a-gee”
U - “u-va-gu”
V - “viv-a-gee”
W - “duvagub-buvagle-u-va-gu”
X - “ev-a-gex”
Y - “y-va-guy”
Z - “ziv-a-gee

Knees bend, arms stretch
Rah-rah-rah

[farawayred]

how's your Dutch?

It ain't much.

[redgriffin73]

double     A - “a-va-gaa”
B - “b-bee”
C - “c-va-gee”
D - “d-va-gee”
E - “e-va-gee”
F - “ev-a-gef”
G - “g-va-gee”
H - “h-va-gach”
I - “i-va-gi”
J - “j-va-gay”
K - “k-va-gay”
L - “ev-a-gel”
M - “ev-a-gem”
N - “ev-a-gen”
O - “o-va-go”
P - “p-va-ee”
Q - “q-va-gu”
R - “r-va-ga”
S - “ev-a-gess”
T - “t-iv-a-gee”
U - “u-va-gu”
V - “viv-a-gee”
W - “duvagub-buvagle-u-va-gu”
X - “ev-a-gex”
Y - “y-va-guy”
Z - “ziv-a-gee

One for the kids there

[Simplexity]

Was Matips best season though.

Untrue. 2019 when we won the CL he was our best player

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Untrue. 2019 when we won the CL he was our best player

Nah ah.

[Caligula?]

Some of the stick he got in the Netherlands during the international break is justified.

[Lubeh]

he looks lost completely, I dont know what to say.

[I've been a good boy]

Very sad decline of a once great footballer.

[RedSamba]

as bad as Trent and Robbo at the moment

[naYoRHa2b]

he looks lost completely, I dont know what to say.

He looks ordinary right now.

That Paul Machin from the Redmen TV reckons even on this season's form he's comfortably the best centre back in the league lol

[killer-heels]

He looks ordinary right now.

That Paul Machin from the Redmen TV reckons even on this season's form he's comfortably the best centre back in the league lol

Yeah but the Redmen are idiots.

[Lubeh]

The only defender we have atm is konate, we need a new defence and midfield should have been buying them last summer, there is no point having bellingham ,  mount etc without   atleast 2 new cbs , and an rb

[jooneyisdagod]

He's fine. Play him behind a midfield and he'll look miles better. At the moment, the defence are sitting ducks. Doesn't help that Robbo likes to run off into the distance chasing lost causes and losing them.

[Lubeh]

He's fine. Play him behind a midfield and he'll look miles better. At the moment, the defence are sitting ducks. Doesn't help that Robbo likes to run off into the distance chasing lost causes and losing them.

Unfortunetely the dutch team would not agree, and there midfield is alright !

[Simplexity]

Looks finished. Complete liability these days.

[robertobaggio37]

He was bad but his partner in crime wasn't much better.

[mikeb58]

He's fine. Play him behind a midfield and he'll look miles better. At the moment, the defence are sitting ducks. Doesn't help that Robbo likes to run off into the distance chasing lost causes and losing them.

Looks finished. Complete liability these days.

Not seen us this season, love Virgil a class act at his peak and a joy to watch.

So, where's he at now, 2 different views above, somewhere in the middle presumably?

[Cafe De Paris]

Have never criticised Virg but today he was shocking.

[jillcwhomever]

Not seen us this season, love Virgil a class act at his peak and a joy to watch.

So, where's he at now, 2 different views above, somewhere in the middle presumably?

Yes, in the middle I would say. I've always been of the view some of our problems this season have come from last season's effort. Even more so with Virgil I think, coming back from injuries can take time and I think he has lost something from that, but I would still keep him for another season. He's been so important for us in that centre of defence, I still think he can do a job but we have to sign another CB to be his natural successor. Maybe then we can rest him a bit more through the season and see if he can regain some of his old consistency.

[markiv]

He looks a different player since the injury. He used to be so calm on the ball when he's pressed and while defending but these days he treats the ball like a bomb. He just hoofs/clears with the slightest bit of pressure. I really hope this season is just a hangover from the last one and he can get back to his best next season but we definitely need another good centre back to challenge Virgil and Konate.

[Nick110581]

He looks a different player since the injury. He used to be so calm on the ball when he's pressed and while defending but these days he treats the ball like a bomb. He just hoofs/clears with the slightest bit of pressure. I really hope this season is just a hangover from the last one and he can get back to his best next season but we definitely need another good centre back to challenge Virgil and Konate.

But that’s actually incorrect as was class last season.

[killer-heels]

He has got throwing his arms up in frustration at others down to an art form this season.