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Some quality/important posts you may have missed
royhendo:
lfcdereks reaction to finding out Shanks1965 had beaten him to picking Gerry Byrne on the "All Time LFC Draft" thread... amazing stuff.
--- Quote from: lfcderek on January 21, 2009, 12:52:23 pm ---Bloody, bloody, bloody hell.
Why, why, why did I risk getting him pinched.
Where do you start with Gerry Byrne.
"I've had many skillful men and the likes of Peter Thompson, Ian St John, Kevin Keegan and Steve Heighway were the ones who caught the eye. But the best professional of the lot was Gerry Byrne. He wasn't flashy and he wouldn't score you goals. But he was hard and skillful and gave you everything he had. More than that he was totally honest. Which is the greatest quality of all. He was a true Liverpudlian who couldn't look his fellow Scousers in the face after a game unless he'd given everything he had for 90 minutes."
Bill Shankly in 1975.
Most people remember him for playing much of the 65 FA Cup with a broken collar bone. This is unfortunate in many ways since he was, IMO, the best LB for us in my lifetime. Quick, almost completely two footed, great (great!!!) tackler, good positionally and as hard as bloody nails. He was a member of the 66 world cup squad and didn't get a game only because Ray Wilson was (again IMO) the best ever English LB.
If you’re of an age.
And if you’re at Anfield when it’s empty.
And if you listen very hard.
You might just hear the sound of a crunching tackle.
And a knowing little smile will appear on your face.
Bloody, bloody, Bloody Hell.
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Kudos to Sarge for the thread cos it's taken over my life and my boss is getting suspicious...
The selections are here...
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=235851.0
The discussion related to it is here...
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=235837.0
And commiserations/kudos to BMW too, cos he wanted to do the same thing at much the same time :wellin
Fat Scouser:
Here's a cracking post from a young lad in another thread (Rafa goes all Ged on us). I've cut and pasted cos I didn't know how to qoute something from one thread to another. That's because I'm thick. So, I'm surprised and embarrased to see my drivel in here. I honestly don't know fuck all compared to some people on here. I just got lucky enough to see the glory years and get educated by some really knowledgeable auld arses. And I reckon a lot of the young people on here could do with shutting up and listening to some of the wise auld bastards in here. As me Ninna would say... take the cotton wool out of your ears, stick it in your grid and listen.
That's not a go at young people. I know some great young reds with a better knowledge than me own. Anyway, here's the view of a good young un. Well in lad....
I have to admit, I haven't read all the replies and discussion in this thread. As much more of a lurker than poster that's quite unusual for me, but I feel the need to post on this topic.
I'm a younger Red. Twenty-three.
I'd imagine most people calling reactionally for Rafa's head after losses(or even draws!) would be placed somewhere near my own age.
I can only vaguely remember football before Sky - sadly, against my own will, I am one of the Sky generation. We belong to a time of constant media exposure to our sport, constant headlines, constant debate, constant bullshit spouted out by pundits and experts without the balls to manage a club themselves or even go against the common perception of footballing cliches.
And it messes with your head. It messes with my head.
This is my first time experiencing a real, concrete challenge for this title we all want so fucking badly. And it tells on me. Every dropped point, every decision that goes against us, every word thrown out in a verbal sparring match. It fucking exhausts me.
But this is it.
This is what we - I, at least - begged for, for as long as I could remember. We are in there. Mixing it up. Trading blows with the from the East Lancs and those nobodies from London. Fighting for every point.
And when I remember that, I remember WHY every dropped point hurts - because they have never mattered as much as they do now. They have never counted as they do this season.
We have a chance. It hurts me when we drop points...but this is a fucking TITLE RACE. Something only those of us old enough to appreciate 1990 - which I cannot - can truly understand. We're in it! We're fighting for our crown.
Who brought us there?
That's all I ask.
If you will cast your mind back to 2004. Our top striker decides to leave because his home club, one of Europe's elite, cannot match his ambition. Our club had failed to reply to going one nil down to so long it had become a running joke. Laughed at even in our own league - and mocked, by proxy, by the actions of our best player - for our gutlessness and lack of ambition.
And in Europe...
Those four cups we all hold so dear seemed like long ago, distant memories, as revelant to those in my age group as tales of King Arthur and Excalbiur. Mere legends, fanciful tales spoken in bragging but sentimental tones around firesides the world over.
Rafael Benitez.
If you can remember where we were when he took over, you can remember what e, and he alone, brought us. Back to the forefront of European dominance. Replacing players like Diao and Diouf with the likes of Mascherano and Torres. Making us look like a real title contending team for the first time since...well, a very long time.
He takes abuse from our press, our own owners, and some of our fans. He faces an impossible mission - to restore a proud, but battered institution to its rightful place atop what is now the hardest league in the world to win.
And here we are, near February, fighting for it.
IN THE MIX.
And to all those pissing and moaning here, ask yourselves this- if you had been offered this position before the season started, would you have taken it?
Down the Lancs, all we heard and see is confidence, while here we splutter and worry and bite our nails like frightened little schoolgirls. I have been guilty of it myself at times this season. But we're undermining ourselves. Our players, our manager, our staff - OUR FUCKING TEAM - need us one and all behind them.
No in-fighting. No OOT vs Scouser. No superfan vs whopper. No optimist vs pessimist. No fucking nothing.
Our team needs us.
Rafa can takes us there, of that I truly believe. But only if we give him the chance. We've been starved too long, have waited patiently only to be denied time after time. It shows in our behaviour. Like a starved animal we squirm and howl and struggle in vain for what we need.
But our struggle has come close to ending - all we need now is the fucking bottle to see this through.
And if we fall short - is it Rafa's fault?
It took that piss stained fucking wino Ferguson many title challenges to win his first one - and look what
royhendo:
Doing yourself a disservice there Fats. I've bookmarked a few people's posts for my morning cuppa, and you're one of them.
wednesday25052005:
--- Quote from: FAT SCOUSER on January 21, 2009, 01:21:32 pm ---Here's a cracking post from a young lad in another thread (Rafa goes all Ged on us). I've cut and pasted cos I didn't know how to qoute something from one thread to another. That's because I'm thick. So, I'm surprised and embarrased to see my drivel in here. I honestly don't know fuck all compared to some people on here. I just got lucky enough to see the glory years and get educated by some really knowledgeable auld arses. And I reckon a lot of the young people on here could do with shutting up and listening to some of the wise auld bastards in here. As me Ninna would say... take the cotton wool out of your ears, stick it in your grid and listen.
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IMMENSE - Well said there - that's the attitude needed right throughout our club, from the top to the bottom.
There's been plenty of times you hear it at thematch and on here - 'if we could just be in mix come the business end' we'll there's 4 and bit months to go and as of now we're right in the mix despite Monday's draw.
Keep the faith and keep it right behind the team, Rafa and each other.
You Never Walk Alone - is how it goes isn't it??!!
Ginamos:
--- Quote from: royhendo on January 21, 2009, 08:54:28 am ---
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Last but not least... the Results Comparison thread. The guys on there are doing an amazing job. It'd be a good idea to take a sober read from this point on in the thread. It'll maybe check your expectations and make you think.
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=226100.msg5279970#msg5279970
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Cheers for that link, I'd completely missed it. You're quite right, come great statto work.
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