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the jesus:

--- Quote from: Aigburth73 on January 21, 2009, 11:14:23 am ---I'd say the posts are very analytical and well thought out. To say that they don't say anything bad about the team or club suggests you didn't read them properly

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Indeed , they far from towed the party line regarding Parry.


--- Quote from: Hank Scorpio on January 21, 2009, 10:57:19 am ---That is a quality post from Degs there.

Benitez = modern day Lobanovsky?

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Good thread, cheers for that. Especially useful for those of us who don't spend that much time on RAWK. Having said that I deliberately stayed away yesterday, to avoid some of the avalanche of stupid posts that were bound to follow the Everton game.

Cheers for posting that from Degs. I'd agree with the frustration and the need to loosen the reins short-term, but for me we're at a critical stage just now, and we need to understand the implications of what we're demanding.

I've just replied to Strawberry Fields in another thread saying as much (actually in KOTP's thread, which has thrown up several good posts - the o.p. in fact, while I don't agree with it, has provoked thought and was well written, so it's a good post). There's no need for a party line, but people need to realise how crucial developments are - we're coming to a genuine crossroads in our future development and our ability to compete on an ongoing basis.

Domestically, even with the millstone of Glazer debt, Man Utd are all set up to be an economic and sporting powerhouse for the next few decades. Arsenal are having some issues of their own, but they've got a strong foundation in place that most can appreciate will only take a tweak or two to resolve. Chelsea may be making stupid decisions right now, but they still boast a frightening squad, and their owner boasts frightening wealth... as do the owners of Man City, who we can only hope continue to emit brainfarts of cosmic proportions and hinder their own progress.

Meanwhile, most worryingly for me than any other development, is the steady and unrelenting progress being made by Aston Villa. O'Neill is someone I have mixed feelings about, but he's ambitious and capable, and he's intelligent. But more important than that, he's backed by an enlightened owner with deep pockets and a patient approach that recognises how to build the foundations for long-term success. Villa are going to kick on from here.

I won't go too far into this here cos I feel a long post brewing, but we need to stop and recognise that capable rivals are growing domestically, and that's to say nothing of resurgent forces on the continent like Barca and Bayern - clubs with serious projects underway that potentially insulate them from the influence of a head coach.

These clubs have put plans in place and they're sticking to them. We on the other hand have fragmented leadership at board and ownership level, we're acknowledged as being in the red with our transfer budget and have to sell to buy, we have a Chief Executive who finds himself in a strategically indispensible position yet also demands fingers in all the footballing pies, despite having no expertise in these matters... and the one chance we do have of emulating the long-term planning and progress made by the likes of Man Utd, Barca, and Aston Villa is the manager, who is now demanding the environment that will let him really compete with these clubs long-term, and won't sign his contract until he gets it.

So we're on the horns of a massive dilemma here, and sadly many fans are jumping on to an ill-advised bandwagon in the pursuit of short-term success.

I'll say it again - I'd rather we were worrying about Man Utd catching us on 30 league titles when they're on 27 than getting rid of the best chance we've had in decades of genuine sporting dominance.

The football is limited and the reasons are many, but the overall ambition is up there with the very best the game has ever seen. Hank - Lobanowskyi comparisons may hold true, but they also extend to other managerial giants from the game's past. The main characteristic we ought to hold dear right now is that of a team builder - of someone who wants to create a lasting foundation and legacy for the club. People like that are hard to get a hold of, and we need someone of that ilk now more than we have at any time since Shanks arrived.

Otherwise we'll find ourselves chasing our tails in the footalling doldrums inhabited by the likes of Spurs.

boss thread, can't even bring myself to wade through half the crap on here at the moment.


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