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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #40 on: September 1, 2022, 10:34:39 pm »
Glad we've got somebody in. He could make the difference in a couple of moments across the season. With fixtures ramping up it was vital to get an experienced player in.

He'll probably be made up. Football might have been hard to come by at Juventus if it had gone a bit stale for him there and he ends up joining the biggest club he's been at, and he's already played for Gremio, Barca and Juve. Not the worst CV I suppose.

I hope his impact is so profound that we feel the need to go back and sign him permanently next summer. Until then though, we'll see ...
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #41 on: September 1, 2022, 10:35:40 pm »

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #42 on: September 1, 2022, 10:35:56 pm »
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #43 on: September 1, 2022, 10:37:15 pm »
Juventus confirm an option to buy in the Arthur deal in an official statement. €37.5m.



Interesting. I couldn't really imagine us paying that much for him in two years time.
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« Reply #44 on: September 1, 2022, 10:39:00 pm »
Good write up here:

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I think Juventus fans are in two mind about this. On the one hand, they think 'hang on a minute, Liverpool want this player, Jurgen Klopp wants this player.'

We've seen Juventus players go to the Premier League in the last six months, Dejan Kulusevski, Rodrigo Bentancur and do well, better for Tottenham than they did for Juventus. Is this what's going to happen with Arthur at Liverpool?

On the other hand, Arthur has had two seasons at Juventus to do something, he hasn't really done anything. That's largely because he hasn't been able to get on the pitch, he's had long protracted injury problems. This time last year he underwent surgery which kept him out. Arthur was supposed to be the poster boy of a transition at Juventus, away from the Juventus DNA into something new and different.

He was a [Maurizio] Sarri signing but Sarri was sacked a month after Arthur signed. They then appointed Andrea Pirlo who wanted to play a style of football that I think would have got the best out of Arthur but the midfield was still incomplete and Pirlo was sacked after a year of being unable to really use Arthur.

Now Juventus have gone back to Max Allegri and the style of football is different. They want more physicality and robustness in midfield and they've gone in a different direction. Arthur has wanted to leave for the last six months, he was linked with Arsenal, those links were true.

He wants to play regular first-team football in order to be in contention for the Brazil squad in Qatar. It's been a very disappointing two years for Arthur and Juventus even though he did win a couple of trophies.

It's a fresh start for Arthur but Liverpool will be hoping they get the player that Barcelona thought they were getting from Gremio rather than the player who has had two lacklustre years at Juventus.

Fitness record at Juve is the main concern.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #45 on: September 1, 2022, 10:42:55 pm »
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #46 on: September 1, 2022, 10:44:05 pm »
Looking at what Juve fans are saying, he seems to slow down play a lot and doesn’t really offer much in terms of creativity and forward play. He has flopped there and Barcelona now, so his record is a bit shit. But hopefully klopp gets something out of him. Worst case we just send him back anyway.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #47 on: September 1, 2022, 10:45:22 pm »
I'd like to say that there's no downside but I can't recall ever watching him play even though I know that I have.


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« Reply #48 on: September 1, 2022, 10:46:11 pm »
Looking at what Juve fans are saying, he seems to slow down play a lot and doesn’t really offer much in terms of creativity and forward play. He has flopped there and Barcelona now, so his record is a bit shit. But hopefully klopp gets something out of him. Worst case we just send him back anyway.

Well, we've needed a replacement for Gini. In all seriousness he seems to offer similar qualities, it's whether he's as tactically astute.
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« Reply #49 on: September 1, 2022, 10:46:13 pm »
Good news we've got it done. Hope he can contribute in the next 8 months or so.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #50 on: September 1, 2022, 10:50:13 pm »
So he's not already injured and there's an option to buy. Hopefully people can be a bit more optimistic about this now - even if he's just a decent squad player for us who brings a bit of composure to the midfield, it could make a positive difference when Thiago/Keita are out, and takes a bit of pressure off Elliott and Carvalho having to be consistent starters at a young age.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #51 on: September 1, 2022, 10:52:10 pm »
Our supporters will probably give him until March, Melo then needs to worry about the stick he’ll get and heat from the crowd.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #52 on: September 1, 2022, 10:53:01 pm »
Looking for a starting spot, so he moves to the CL runnerups? Bold move
Wonder what Klopp has told him.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #54 on: September 1, 2022, 10:57:06 pm »
Named after Arthur Scargill apparently. Father was a big fan. I wasn't expecting that.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #55 on: September 1, 2022, 10:58:48 pm »
He’s getting the winner on Saturday isn’t he?
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« Reply #56 on: September 1, 2022, 10:59:27 pm »
Looking for a starting spot, so he moves to the CL runnerups? Bold move
Wonder what Klopp has told him.
Hopefully he will train hard to try and get into the team. Regardless of whether he is a starter, currently we have so many injured that our training sessions probably aren't as good as it could be. Be good for Jones, Elliott and Carvalho to play with him so they can improve their own game.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #57 on: September 1, 2022, 10:59:49 pm »
Seems like a poor-man’s (not totally destitute) Thiago which is fine by me. Gives us some much needed quality in midfield. I’m pleased with this. Just hope he can adapt to Klopp’s system quickly.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #58 on: September 1, 2022, 11:02:49 pm »
Welcome and good luck to him. Hopefully he can adapt quickly and get up to speed with what Klopp wants from the team.

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« Reply #59 on: September 1, 2022, 11:06:11 pm »
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #60 on: September 1, 2022, 11:08:01 pm »
This is gonna be a master stroke signing. Quick on the ball, press resistant, highly skilled.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #61 on: September 1, 2022, 11:09:45 pm »
Looking for a starting spot, so he moves to the CL runnerups? Bold move
Wonder what Klopp has told him.

If you are going off the Horncastle article there is a significant difference between being a first team regular and having a 'starting spot'.

If he can't get minutes in our midfield I'd imagine he'd appreciate that he is not at the level to play for Brazil in the World Cup.

Seems a decent deal to get in another body who has played at the highest level and who has something to prove. No idea how good he will be but I guess for that loan fee and whatever we are paying towards his wages it is a pretty cheap option to bolster the squad.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #62 on: September 1, 2022, 11:11:40 pm »
Well, we've needed a replacement for Gini. In all seriousness he seems to offer similar qualities, it's whether he's as tactically astute.

It's basically like this. Barca hoped he was the new Xavi. We can effectively rule that out now. Having said that, now he can either go the Wijnaldum or the Aquilani route. I would say both of those two had similar levels of talent, one maximized his to for a couple of years be a world-class midfielder and the other couldn't be bothered and preferred to just cruise around then play a fancy pass sometimes. Hopefully it's the former and he really wants to salvage his career and redeem his reputation.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #63 on: September 1, 2022, 11:11:55 pm »




Is it just me or are those quite obvious photoshops? Obviously it’s an official announcement but those photos look pretty dodgy in terms of the lighting and edges of the body & shirt… perhaps he is elsewhere so they had to put together some composite pics using stock backgrounds.
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« Reply #64 on: September 1, 2022, 11:16:02 pm »
Is it just me or are those quite obvious photoshops? Obviously it’s an official announcement but those photos look pretty dodgy in terms of the lighting and edges of the body & shirt… perhaps he is elsewhere so they had to put together some composite pics using stock backgrounds.


They're real cos there's a video as well of him walking around the training complex and an interview with him. I know what you mean though, they look a bit weird kind of like photoshops, like that Barcelona guy when Mourinho gouged Vilanova.
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« Reply #65 on: September 1, 2022, 11:16:02 pm »
Named after Arthur Scargill apparently. Father was a big fan. I wasn't expecting that.

I've suddenly developed a great fondness for him and his Dad.

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« Reply #66 on: September 1, 2022, 11:17:46 pm »
Is it just me or are those quite obvious photoshops? Obviously it’s an official announcement but those photos look pretty dodgy in terms of the lighting and edges of the body & shirt… perhaps he is elsewhere so they had to put together some composite pics using stock backgrounds.

I can see how you might think that, but those are perfectly reasonable genuine lighting situations. The first, for example, has a heavily diffused flash pointing downward from well above the camera.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #67 on: September 1, 2022, 11:17:47 pm »
Wot a load of Melodrama
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« Reply #68 on: September 1, 2022, 11:18:32 pm »
Low risk signing. Looks motivated to revamp his career and will have opportunities to do so.


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« Reply #69 on: September 1, 2022, 11:19:40 pm »
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #70 on: September 1, 2022, 11:20:41 pm »
Woe, This gets in massively

Was so good for Barca. Don’t watch Italian footy that much so not seen so much for juve

Xavi wanted him back.
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« Reply #71 on: September 1, 2022, 11:21:52 pm »
Named after Arthur Scargill apparently. Father was a big fan. I wasn't expecting that.

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« Reply #72 on: September 1, 2022, 11:22:31 pm »
Has he arrived yet?

Hope he doesn't have any mid-air delays. You know, caught between the 'Pool and Turin city.


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« Reply #73 on: September 1, 2022, 11:24:28 pm »

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« Reply #75 on: September 1, 2022, 11:24:58 pm »
He’s getting the winner on Saturday isn’t he?
He's on seven goals in his entire career - I'm gonna bet no ;D


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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #76 on: September 1, 2022, 11:26:16 pm »
I have no idea whether he will be a good signing or not. However he has a great opportunity to work with a great manager and a great squad of players.

I guess he’ll start off on the bench and come on if we are protecting a lead. It will take time to adapt to our style so we may need to give him time.
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« Reply #77 on: September 1, 2022, 11:26:56 pm »
He's on seven goals in his entire career - I'm gonna bet no ;D
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #78 on: September 1, 2022, 11:28:08 pm »
It's basically like this. Barca hoped he was the new Xavi. We can effectively rule that out now. Having said that, now he can either go the Wijnaldum or the Aquilani route. I would say both of those two had similar levels of talent, one maximized his to for a couple of years be a world-class midfielder and the other couldn't be bothered and preferred to just cruise around then play a fancy pass sometimes. Hopefully it's the former and he really wants to salvage his career and redeem his reputation.

I think that him turning out to be a peak Gini level replacement is the realistic best case scenario. Next best scenario is he plays well enough to fill that 'fringe' first team role that the likes of Keita/Henderson/Jones have at the moment. I can't see us spending 35mil on him to fill Milner's spot.

For the short term he is filling a gap that needs filling.

For what it's worth I never had an issue with Aquilani's quality/application when he was fully fit, the problem was that he was hardly ever in that position - he was always either injured or working his way back to fitness. I think you are being a little harsh on him?

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #79 on: September 1, 2022, 11:28:41 pm »
They call him Arthur Melo....quite rightly.



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