Author Topic: Virgil Van Dijk (Cpt) (Read 1455942 times)

lamonti · « **Reply #2800 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:37:38 am »

Quote from: Tepid T₂O on May 16, 2018, 11:25:47 pm

Yes...

I’m not sure why I picked Roger Black as a comparison though...

Part of the classic 4x400m team from the 1991 World Championships with Kriss Akabusi, Derek Redmond, and John Regis. Why not?!?

Also John Regis is a red

Oberyn_Martell · « **Reply #2801 on:** May 17, 2018, 11:48:23 am »

Quote from: Tepid T₂O on May 16, 2018, 11:25:47 pm

Yes...

I’m not sure why I picked Roger Black as a comparison though...

Had me stumped 🤷‍♀️
Anyways, he will be so important in the final. Ronaldo will try and target our right side so he needs to keep those guys on their toes.

Yiannis · « **Reply #2802 on:** May 17, 2018, 12:59:42 pm »

Quote from: Flaccido Dongingo on May 17, 2018, 02:19:22 am

He played a pass against Brighton the other day for Trent to run on to, about 70 yards, cross field daisy cutter, quite frankly it was utterly filthy, superb footballer.

https://twitter.com/LFCFansCorner/status/995764313091706883

RedBlakey · « **Reply #2803 on:** May 17, 2018, 01:09:11 pm »

Quote from: Yiannis on May 17, 2018, 12:59:42 pm

https://twitter.com/LFCFansCorner/status/995764313091706883

It's the way he's just so casual about it.

I seem to remember him playing a pretty cheeky ball down the left flank at one point to.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #2804 on:** May 17, 2018, 01:37:20 pm »

Quote from: Yiannis on May 17, 2018, 12:59:42 pm

https://twitter.com/LFCFansCorner/status/995764313091706883

Over hit that a bit. Wasn’t quite to feet...

clinical · « **Reply #2805 on:** May 17, 2018, 01:41:10 pm »

Quote from: Tepid T₂O on May 17, 2018, 01:37:20 pm

Over hit that a bit. Wasn’t quite to feet...

Made TAA overstretch could have got injured. Awful pass.

newterp · « **Reply #2806 on:** May 17, 2018, 01:55:54 pm »

Quote from: Tepid T₂O on May 17, 2018, 01:37:20 pm

Over hit that a bit. Wasn’t quite to feet...

Quote from: clinical on May 17, 2018, 01:41:10 pm

Made TAA overstretch could have got injured. Awful pass.

Made TAA rely on pace to get to it - and we all know that pace is cheating.

Nessy76 · « **Reply #2807 on:** May 17, 2018, 02:52:42 pm »

Quote from: Tepid T₂O on May 16, 2018, 11:25:47 pm

Yes...

I’m not sure why I picked Roger Black as a comparison though...

I was thinking of Roger Bannister, but that makes even less sense.

Bobinhood · « **Reply #2808 on:** May 17, 2018, 03:29:48 pm »

I know it doesn't make much tactical sense but i'd really like to see VVD punch Ronaldo right in the face. Maybe a late dive/whingefest with Liverpool up 4-0 or something?

Hey.

a man can dream.

an fear dearg · « **Reply #2809 on:** May 17, 2018, 03:34:45 pm »

Quote from: Bobinhood on May 17, 2018, 03:29:48 pm

I know it doesn't make much tactical sense but i'd really like to see VVD punch Ronaldo right in the face. Maybe a late dive/whingefest with Liverpool up 4-0 or something?

Hey.

a man can dream.

Actually I’d rather that we were winning by one and with 2 minutes to go that he dived to win a penalty and the ref caught him out and he got a second yellow card and was sent off and in the way off Klopp laughed at his tears!!!! Would be far more satisfying

JerseyKloppite · « **Reply #2810 on:** May 18, 2018, 11:46:30 am »

Locked for the day - any chat about Virgil, please see the excellent piece by Hellrazor at https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=340180.0

BabuYagu · « **Reply #2811 on:** May 24, 2018, 01:30:46 am »

Big Virg has been given the radar and quotes without any context treatment. Have at it!

Samio · « **Reply #2812 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:30:59 pm »

I adore this man.

lessthanmatt · « **Reply #2813 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:31:54 pm »

He's the best. A colossus. One of the world's best and he's ours!

abhred · « **Reply #2814 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:37:19 pm »

The kind of player title-winning teams are built on. Him, Firmino, Mane, Salah are in their prime in the next 2-3 years. Need to make sure we take advantage of that.

plura · « **Reply #2815 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:45:38 pm »

That has some onion cutting effect on me. What a signing he's been. Tremendous quality and leadership. And I'm at least as excited for the future as he is.
We've got the coach, the quality, but not the depth.

Zlen · « **Reply #2816 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:53:30 pm »

Thank you Virgil.
Beautiful message.

El Lobo · « **Reply #2817 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:54:02 pm »

The mans an absolute machine, he’ll 100% win trophies with us

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #2818 on:** May 27, 2018, 05:59:50 pm »

Quote from: Eel Lobo on May 27, 2018, 05:54:02 pm

The mans an absolute machine, he’ll 100% win trophies with us

A real mountain in Red.

Ravishing Rick Dude · « **Reply #2819 on:** May 27, 2018, 07:06:08 pm »

Quote from: Samio on May 27, 2018, 05:30:59 pm

I adore this man.

Captain material.

killer-heels · « **Reply #2820 on:** May 27, 2018, 07:17:24 pm »

Bloody hell its like the Oscars

indianscouser · « **Reply #2821 on:** May 27, 2018, 07:18:46 pm »

Klopp wouldn't do a lot wrong to make him the vice captain.

bird_lfc · « **Reply #2822 on:** May 27, 2018, 07:43:21 pm »

Quote from: Eel Lobo on May 27, 2018, 05:54:02 pm

The mans an absolute machine, he’ll 100% win trophies with us

Best defender we have had in a LONG time

LFCEmpire · « **Reply #2823 on:** May 27, 2018, 07:50:31 pm »

Man mountain. He always puts in a solid performance for us, legend.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #2824 on:** May 27, 2018, 07:55:45 pm »

He's Hyypia with pace.

rakey_lfc · « **Reply #2825 on:** May 27, 2018, 08:03:49 pm »

Well worth the wait!

McSquared · « **Reply #2826 on:** May 27, 2018, 08:44:34 pm »

Quote from: Samio on May 27, 2018, 05:30:59 pm

I adore this man.

Top lad is VVD

OOS · « **Reply #2827 on:** May 27, 2018, 08:46:39 pm »

He's one of the few players who you have utmost confidence on the ball. You just know he's going to do the right thing ... and he's a fucking center back. No flapping, no farting about, no nonsense.

disgraced cake · « **Reply #2828 on:** May 27, 2018, 10:25:04 pm »

I've not checked to see what any of them have wrote on social media last night, not out of malice, I just want to distance myself from it (good start opening rawk then

) - but that feels like a commanding statement from Virgil, what a ride it's been for him. He could have been fighting relegation if he'd stayed at Southampton and now he's playing in the european cup final. I pray it's not his last and I don't think it will be.

Lovren was brilliant too I thought. These could be the men.

PIPA23 · « **Reply #2829 on:** May 28, 2018, 09:38:11 am »

he is one of the players you know is also a fan... he means it... you can see how he talks about the club...

i wonder why nobody took him from Groningen earlier...

nothing better than if a player also loves the club he playes for...

very strong candidate for the armband in near future imo.. together with Ox - my favourite to take it.

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #2830 on:** May 28, 2018, 11:24:11 am »

He’s a brilliant addition to the team and money well spent.

However he was disappointingly tentative on the ball on Saturday. I know it’s not easy for the centre backs when you have a midfielder in front of you who doesn’t want the ball, but Virgil simply refused to move with the ball throughout the game. It was all a little Carragher-esque. By contrast Lovren was excellent. He tried to take up the burden and was much braver than his partner. Very odd.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #2831 on:** May 28, 2018, 11:34:32 am »

What an addition this lad has been

Think he will be a monster of a player this coming season and as much as i love Hendo, i would love to see Van Dijk captain us

wige · « **Reply #2832 on:** May 28, 2018, 11:45:17 am »

Quote from: Yorkykopite on May 28, 2018, 11:24:11 am

He’s a brilliant addition to the team and money well spent.

However he was disappointingly tentative on the ball on Saturday. I know it’s not easy for the centre backs when you have a midfielder in front of you who doesn’t want the ball, but Virgil simply refused to move with the ball throughout the game. It was all a little Carragher-esque. By contrast Lovren was excellent. He tried to take up the burden and was much braver than his partner. Very odd.

I think he stopped passing into midfield because 9 times out of 10 it was given straight back.

Think Saturday really highlighted the need for us to have a 6 who can play on the half turn, who scans for the full picture prior to receiving the ball, who can pass with either foot, and is comfortable under pressure.

Not an easy player to find, or sign.

Plus, for me, he's up there with the best centre halves in the game. The best I've seen play for Liverpool.

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #2833 on:** May 28, 2018, 11:56:30 am »

Quote from: wige on May 28, 2018, 11:45:17 am

I think he stopped passing into midfield because 9 times out of 10 it was given straight back.

Think Saturday really highlighted the need for us to have a 6 who can play on the half turn, who scans for the full picture prior to receiving the ball, who can pass with either foot, and is comfortable under pressure.

Not an easy player to find, or sign.

Plus, for me, he's up there with the best centre halves in the game. The best I've seen play for Liverpool.

That’s fair to a point. It is surely obvious to the world that Hendo is ill-equipped to play such an important role. Like you say he kept sending problems back to the centre back and Trent. However I was still surprised that Virgil wasn’t more proactive. He looked a little overwhelmed by the occasion and was really tentative when he had the ball and therefore too quick to launch it long. Surprisingly, it was Lovren who was cool enough to move with the ball and who tried to provoke Madrid into a little bit of disorganisation.

Chalky Boots · « **Reply #2834 on:** May 28, 2018, 12:06:01 pm »

I mean if not launching aimless punts ala Rooney is tentative then yes, he was tentative. He's the best long passer in the first team but there really wasn't a lot on and Virgil is too intelligent to just start painting things into vacant areas. I thought he made some really good passing options for Henderson which weren't used.

I just think if your relying on your CB to be Hyypia and Xabi Alonso all at the same time then there's something wrong with whoever the controller is at number 6.

edit: for what it's worth Henderson had a solid game defensively I just don't think he helped us move up the pitch.

El Lobo · « **Reply #2835 on:** May 28, 2018, 12:40:53 pm »

*Starts typing ‘if you want to slag off Henderson, take it to his thread’, then sees that’s also locked for slagging off Henderson*

jooneyisdagod · « **Reply #2836 on:** May 28, 2018, 12:46:51 pm »

Quote from: Yorkykopite on May 28, 2018, 11:56:30 am

That’s fair to a point. It is surely obvious to the world that Hendo is ill-equipped to play such an important role. Like you say he kept sending problems back to the centre back and Trent. However I was still surprised that Virgil wasn’t more proactive. He looked a little overwhelmed by the occasion and was really tentative when he had the ball and therefore too quick to launch it long. Surprisingly, it was Lovren who was cool enough to move with the ball and who tried to provoke Madrid into a little bit of disorganisation.

I do think Virgil didn't have his greatest game but part of that, particularly on the ball, was the lack of any passing options in front of him. I think with Mo in the team, we are able to push much further up the pitch and play in the opponent's half as they concede space since they're petrified of Mo's pace in behind the defence. Once he was off, Madrid forced us to play within our half and as we dropped deeper, it fell to our midfield to break the lines with their passing or making a quick run but outside of Gini on the odd occasion, this was sorely lacking in our midfield and the ball kept being returned to the centre backs, so they had no opportunity to push up and play more progressively.

Eeyore · « **Reply #2837 on:** May 28, 2018, 01:43:29 pm »

Quote from: Yorkykopite on May 28, 2018, 11:56:30 am

That’s fair to a point. It is surely obvious to the world that Hendo is ill-equipped to play such an important role. Like you say he kept sending problems back to the centre back and Trent. However I was still surprised that Virgil wasn’t more proactive. He looked a little overwhelmed by the occasion and was really tentative when he had the ball and therefore too quick to launch it long. Surprisingly, it was Lovren who was cool enough to move with the ball and who tried to provoke Madrid into a little bit of disorganisation.

The long balls from the back four were.

Van Dijk 3
Robertson 5
Trent 6
Lovren 8

I think a major reason is that when Henderson has his back to play then the ball is either going back to the keeper, Lovren or Trent. He simply doesn't open his body up so the ball is going to be played to his left. Madrid took advantage of that all evening they left Henderson free as the outball and then pressed him and the right hand side of our defence. Henderson made the most passes for us 40 and had a 95% pass completion rate but for me that was down to Madrid actually wanting him to get on the ball.

Trent had a terrible pass completion rate of 46.9% but for me that was down to how predictable we were in possession as soon as the ball went into Henderson Madrid were looking to close Trent down. Van Dijk looks far better in possession when Gini plays as the 6 for me because we are far more unpredictable.

Nogg3000 · « **Reply #2838 on:** May 28, 2018, 03:16:14 pm »

Made UCL squad of the season along with Bob and Mo. Not bad for someone who only played for half the season.

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2560100.html

conman · « **Reply #2839 on:** May 28, 2018, 06:54:29 pm »

Quote from: wige on May 28, 2018, 11:45:17 am

I think he stopped passing into midfield because 9 times out of 10 it was given straight back.

Think Saturday really highlighted the need for us to have a 6 who can play on the half turn, who scans for the full picture prior to receiving the ball, who can pass with either foot, and is comfortable under pressure.

Not an easy player to find, or sign.

Plus, for me, he's up there with the best centre halves in the game. The best I've seen play for Liverpool.

Maybe that player is Gini