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CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« on: December 7, 2017, 01:30:42 pm »
So who do you want?

In order of preference: Basel, Porto, Shakhtar, Bayern, Real Madrid, Juventus

Juventus would be a pain to play against as they could stifle us, but then their individual quality isn't as strong as Bayern or Real. I just feel it could be a real bad match-up.

Shakhtar out of the easy sides will be the trickiest. They look well coached and held their own against City. Draw Basel or Porto and we should be fine, as long as we approach the games in a professional manner.

Whoever we get, bring it on.

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #1 on: December 7, 2017, 01:32:27 pm »
Your order is spot on I'd say.

Avoid the obvious three and we'll have to be happy. Even Bayern wouldn't be the end of the world, would be an awesome tie and one I think we could win.

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Re: CL Draw. Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #2 on: December 7, 2017, 01:32:42 pm »
 Basel, Porto, Bayern ,Shakhtar, Juventus,Madrid

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #3 on: December 7, 2017, 02:52:34 pm »
I hope we get Basel. It's about time we beat them.
Hope we avoid Juventus.

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #4 on: December 7, 2017, 02:56:06 pm »
Would like to see Porto or Shaktar.  Different style might help us later on.  I am proponent that the games along the way shape us and our experience, knowledge and ability to deal with new looks.
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #5 on: December 7, 2017, 10:53:22 pm »
Not juve or shaktar. The others are the 'easier' draws or we would raise our game
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #6 on: December 7, 2017, 11:07:37 pm »
To be honest the most difficult draw will be Juve.
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #7 on: December 7, 2017, 11:31:29 pm »
To be honest the most difficult draw will be Juve.

I think Bayern would be difficult as well.  Huycknes has them playing much different to Ancelotti, --- they are capable of getting on a roll and making Anfield irrelevant. 

Basel
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Shaktar
Real Madrid

would be my favored order
 
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #8 on: December 7, 2017, 11:41:53 pm »
I think Bayern would be difficult as well.  Huycknes has them playing much different to Ancelotti, --- they are capable of getting on a roll and making Anfield irrelevant. 

Basel
Porto
Shaktar
Real Madrid

would be my favored order
 
To be honest whoever we draw will be difficult...but exciting times !
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #9 on: December 7, 2017, 11:51:57 pm »
I hope we get Real Madrid! Steam roll them at Anfield 😎
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #10 on: December 7, 2017, 11:53:38 pm »
Basel or Porto.

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #11 on: December 8, 2017, 12:03:10 am »
I hope we get Real Madrid! Steam roll them at Anfield 😎

Quite.

If everyone is fit, I hope we get Real earlier rather than later. Blitz them while there's plenty of gas in the tank.

It's the worst Real team in quite a few years. They've lost Morata. Bale is often injured. Ronaldo finally showing his age. Beating them would make a real statement.

Hopefully we then get a nice easy QF after that, before an English team, like Spurs, in the semis. By then their forwards should be well and truly depleted.

Piece of cake :p

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #12 on: December 8, 2017, 12:11:51 am »
I think we will get Bayern

I'm hoping we get Basel

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #13 on: December 8, 2017, 12:19:02 am »
I really hope we avoid Juve. And I'd love United to get Real and get drawn into a month's worth of Mourinho bullshit, then lose.

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #14 on: December 8, 2017, 12:38:20 am »
Bear in mind that because Juve cannot face Roma and Real Madrid cannot face Barcelona we are marginally more likely to face one of them ( they have a 1 in 6 chance of drawing us) than one of the other teams.
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #15 on: December 8, 2017, 01:05:14 am »
Be sick if we get one of Juve, Bayern,Real and Chelsea get Beşiktaş.
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #16 on: December 8, 2017, 01:11:41 am »
Anybody but Bayern. Bayern under Heynckes will have just the right balance between attack and defence to make it very difficult for our attack and constantly get at our defence. Real can be a bit gung ho at times and there is a genuine possibility of our attackers tearing them a new a-hole with the extra space afforded. Juve are the exact opposite, they'll sit back and let players like Coutinho/Lallana take control and dictate the game. Against the other three, we should be favorites to progress. My order of preference would be Basel, Porto, Shakthar, Juve, Real, Bayern

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #17 on: December 8, 2017, 01:31:54 am »
Madrid is OK for me, Even Spurs can beat them now!
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #18 on: December 8, 2017, 01:52:21 am »
Would love Porto, never been to Portugal and would like to rock that one off my bucket list.

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #19 on: December 8, 2017, 04:23:58 am »
Real, please. Anything Spurs can do...

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #20 on: December 8, 2017, 07:08:25 am »
Bear in mind that because Juve cannot face Roma and Real Madrid cannot face Barcelona we are marginally more likely to face one of them ( they have a 1 in 6 chance of drawing us) than one of the other teams.

I'd never given that a thought, but yes that's a good point.

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #21 on: December 8, 2017, 08:00:53 am »
Honestly quite fancy Madrid

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #22 on: December 8, 2017, 08:25:48 am »
Porto please. Been Madrid, I don’t want to go Italy or Ukraine, Switzerland i will have to sell my house.

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #23 on: December 8, 2017, 08:59:38 am »
I'd probably prefer one of the three easier teams but honestly, I'm not that bothered. We can beat anyone I feel but, conversely, we can also lose to anyone. It all depends which version of Liverpool decide to turn up on any given day. Either way, bring it on.

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #24 on: December 8, 2017, 10:00:15 am »
Quite.

If everyone is fit, I hope we get Real earlier rather than later. Blitz them while there's plenty of gas in the tank.

It's the worst Real team in quite a few years. They've lost Morata. Bale is often injured. Ronaldo finally showing his age. Beating them would make a real statement.

I would be shocked if Morata made 30 starts for Madrid in his time there - he was hardly a first team regular. Madrid have won several trophies with an injury prone Bale and that old guy who is showing his age has just won the Ballon D'Or!

Lets not kid ourselves that they aren't a seriously strong team. Navas, Ramos, Marcelo, Kroos, Casemiro, Modric, Asensio, Benzema - lets not forget about all those guys.
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #25 on: December 8, 2017, 10:15:19 am »
Having 2nd leg at Anfield is probably more important than who the opposition is.

In his post match interview on BT Sport Klopp said he always gets Madrid in these draws!

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #26 on: December 8, 2017, 11:24:59 am »
bring any of them on  :champ

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #27 on: December 8, 2017, 11:33:14 am »
As great as we are at our fluent best, I don't think we're quite at the 'give us anyone' days we had under Rafa. We're definitely moving in the right direction, though still lack a bit of nous in Europe I think.

With that in mind, I'd rather as easy a draw as possible this round (and agree with the OP's priority order) so we can start to turnaround our ranking. We got extremely lucky with the group this year, considering our terrible seeding.

A win in both legs gets us four coefficient points, plus one for making the quarters. That would only move us to about 25th, which is still rubbish, but if we do something decent in the quarters we'd be approaching the top 20. Then, assuming we qualify for Europe next season, we can start to move up quickly, as we lose the 13/14 points in seeding (a year we weren't in Europe). (all in here, if interested https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/trank2018.html )

In short, Basel please
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #28 on: December 8, 2017, 11:40:19 am »
Can’t help thinking I want us to get Bayern despite potentially easier draws on paper.

Really fancy going the Allianz.

Anyone but Juve really. Having been to watch Liverpool in Turin it really isn’t a nice experience as we are hated by them for obvious reasons.

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #29 on: December 8, 2017, 12:44:45 pm »
In terms of where I want to go I'll say Porto or Bayern. But I guess Basel would be the "easier" option. Can't be arsed going there again though!
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #30 on: December 8, 2017, 12:49:52 pm »
This draw will be a huge anti climax if we don't beat Everton on Sunday. Nothing else matters

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #31 on: December 8, 2017, 01:02:33 pm »
I don't put much stock in Madrid defensively. I fancy us against Juve - that would be a cracking game. Bayern aren't exactly cracking flags but are the only ones I think would have a counter to our style of play.
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #32 on: December 8, 2017, 01:11:45 pm »
This draw will be a huge anti climax if we don't beat Everton on Sunday. Nothing else matters

Nonsense.

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #33 on: December 8, 2017, 01:26:30 pm »
Can’t help thinking I want us to get Bayern despite potentially easier draws on paper.

Really fancy going the Allianz.

Anyone but Juve really. Having been to watch Liverpool in Turin it really isn’t a nice experience as we are hated by them for obvious reasons.

Me too, and selfishly that's why I don't want us to get them (haven't been going this year). Would be a great trip there, first competitive game there in a generation.

On that note, hope people don't have to go to Turin.

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #34 on: December 8, 2017, 01:30:34 pm »
3 Possibilities - Chelsea cannot play any another English team in this round nor Roma from their group
                                 - Beşiktaş, PSG, Barca

5 Possibilities - Barcelona cannot play Real Madrid nor Sevilla nor Juventus

6 Possibilities - Man U, Man City, Spurs and Liverpool all have (1 team from their qualifying group out of the running and Chelsea)
                                   
                                - Juventus and Roma same situation (cannot play each other) nor their qualifying group members Barca/Chelsea)


                                 -  Sevilla and Real Madrid same situation (cannot play Barcelona nor Liverpool/Tottenham)

7 PossibilitiesPSG, Bayern Munich, Porto, Shaktar, Basel & Beşiktaş can draw any team except their group stage pairings

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #35 on: December 8, 2017, 01:38:19 pm »
We always win the hard way..........

So Bayern or Real it is.
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #36 on: December 8, 2017, 01:41:26 pm »
Nonsense.

So if Everton beat us are you gonna be all giddy and excited on Monday morning? I'll not be. Sunday is everything and I'll probably avoid footy for a few days if we get beat so I'll not know about the draw until midweek

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #37 on: December 8, 2017, 01:54:51 pm »
Last season, I would have been more confident in our ability to take on the giants and win than the (relative) minnows. This season, it’s been reversed. Still, I don’t think there’s anyone who would fancy us either. Klopp has pedigree in this competition, and regardless of who we get, we’ll have a decent chance of making it to the next round.
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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #38 on: December 8, 2017, 02:00:10 pm »
Will be good to see how we compare against one of the better sides in Europe in the last few years if we did get Bayern, Juve or Real. 

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Re: CL Draw, Round of 16 - Monday 11th December 11am
« Reply #39 on: December 8, 2017, 02:08:50 pm »
I'm not that bothered who we get.

Ok Juve are like a brick wall but against our pace who knows. They won't be bullies like a prem team who can sometime outmuscle us with 10 men behind the ball. In some ways I'm glad Atlectico are not in it. Horrible team.

Not many teams will want to play a Klopp side that simply doesn't play safe and imposes its attacking intent. The only team I wouldn't to face is PSG because our defence wouldn't cope although it could end up being 6 - 6 but we won't..... yet!

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