Topic: Boxing thread

[Dull Tools]

Green piss laboured to a decision win over his journeyman opponent. Miller weighed 341 pounds 

Am I crazy for thinking Srisaket Sor Rungsavai can beat Jesse Rodriguez? He is 7/2 to win which is a bit mad. I know he is likely on the slide but you can't count out a fighter of this quality with his power. Incredible to think that after 5 fights, his record was 1-3-1 and he was knocked out twice. Since then, he has gone 48-2 (losses to Estrada and Cuadras) with 42 KOs, beating Chocolatito twice and Estrada; and I think he would have beaten Cuadras in the rematch if it had gone ahead.

Goes to show that you shouldn't necessarily write fighters off after early losses. Sadly, that happens a lot these days.

I would have Rungsavai as a favorite. He is ring number one in the division and Rodriguez is 22, in his second title fight and is jumping up two weights.

[Samie]

WHY THE FUCK IS THAT PISS HEAD STILL GETTING A LICENSE IN THE FIRST PLACE?

[1892tillforever]

I would have Rungsavai as a favorite. He is ring number one in the division and Rodriguez is 22, in his second title fight and is jumping up two weights.

It's a pick 'em for me. Rungsavai post-Gonzalez would probably lay Rodriguez out but the suspicion is he is on the decline and at the lower weights, that decline can become precipitous very quickly. Gonzalez took on Cuadras at fairly late notice and won handily. He is young, very talented and very much on the up.

On the other side of the coin, as you said, despite his big win, Rodriguez is new to this level and up against a teak tough veteran. Rungsavai is also a beast at 115 and hits incredibly hard; harder than anyone Rodriguez has ever faced. I also suspect Cuadras is over the hill and think Rungsavai would have beaten him had the fight not been postponed. I've gone Rungsavai at 7/2 anyway and 13/2 to win via stoppage; those odds are far too long IMO.

WHY THE FUCK IS THAT PISS HEAD STILL GETTING A LICENSE IN THE FIRST PLACE?

New to boxing mate? 

[Dull Tools]

It's a pick 'em for me. Rungsavai post-Gonzalez would probably lay Rodriguez out but the suspicion is he is on the decline and at the lower weights, that decline can become precipitous very quickly. Gonzalez took on Cuadras at fairly late notice and won handily. He is young, very talented and very much on the up.

On the other side of the coin, as you said, despite his big win, Rodriguez is new to this level and up against a teak tough veteran. Rungsavai is also a beast at 115 and hits incredibly hard; harder than anyone Rodriguez has ever faced. I also suspect Cuadras is over the hill and think Rungsavai would have beaten him had the fight not been postponed. I've gone Rungsavai at 7/2 anyway and 13/2 to win via stoppage; those odds are far too long IMO.
New to boxing mate? 

At 7/2 it is a no brainer bet.

[1892tillforever]

At 7/2 it is a no brainer bet.

Inactivity at his age is the other concern but we'll see!

[Samie]

New to boxing mate? 

 

How fuckin' corrupt do you have to be to not grant a license to a lad who pisses in the colours of the rainbow evrey other week?

[Samie]

Naz in Saudi. I hope he's doing punditry on the night. 

[Lusty]

Naz in Saudi. I hope he's doing punditry on the night. 

The best pundit in the business

Mad how he probably weighs more than AJ these days!

[1892tillforever]

Father Time caught up with the Thai tank. Rodriguez is legit.

[rhysd]

Father Time caught up with the Thai tank. Rodriguez is legit.

Yep, he looked done didn't he. Speed and timing had gone.

Rodriguez looks really exciting.

[Samie]

Aye, he looks a real talent. They say he could end up as high as Lightweight.

Chocolatito might be a future contender for him too.

[1892tillforever]

Aye, he looks a real talent. They say he could end up as high as Lightweight.

Chocolatito might be a future contender for him too.

Rodriguez's timing could be incredible. In theory, he could end up with Cuadras, Rungsavai, Chocolatito, and Estrada on his record 

That's an absolute murderer's row of fighters at that weight.

[Dull Tools]

Bam is incredible.

Think he should do one fight at 108 and then try and clear up at 112.

Looks like Nakatani is next though. Then I imagine a unification With Cesar Martinez.

[ToneLa]

The best pundit in the business

Mad how he probably weighs more than AJ these days!

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Naz vs Eddie Hall bookit

[Lusty]

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Naz vs Eddie Hall bookit

Be interesting to see if Eddie Hall could lift him

[Samie]

https://twitter.com/MatchroomBoxing/status/1541119102617415683

Check out this analogy from Delboy from his face-off against Pulev. 

[Lusty]

https://twitter.com/MatchroomBoxing/status/1541119102617415683

Check out this analogy from Delboy from his face-off against Pulev. 

Incredibly harsh on the ladies of Timbuktu that

[Samie]

Triple G calling Canelo a drug cheat again. Saying you'd have to be a big clown to test positive for PED's in a combat sport. 

[Dull Tools]

Triple G calling Canelo a drug cheat again. Saying you'd have to be a big clown to test positive for PED's in a combat sport. 

I do get what Canelo is saying. GGG is a sly twat. I still like him but he keeps on making comments on the side and not saying anything to Canelo's face.

Also looks like Don King has pulled another fast one and not paid Dubois.

[Samie]

Juan Estrada vs Roman ‘Chocolatito’ Gonzalez III is reportedly now being planned to take place next in November/December. [@ESPNmx]

[Samie]

Joe Joyce in action tonight lads. 

[Dull Tools]

Breidis has just  been beaten by some Aussie lad.

[Samie]

1892 was on the Breidis train a lot.   

Never been convinced he was really that good.

[Lusty]

Breidis has just  been beaten by some Aussie lad.

Sounds like a hell of a fight. Apparently the Aussie fought for 10 rounds with a broken jaw!

[Samie]

Apparently he's got Dave Whelan's genes.

[1892tillforever]

1892 was on the Breidis train a lot.   

Never been convinced he was really that good.

He.was good but he's getting on to be honest. Still shocked he lost to this guy!

[1892tillforever]

Sounds like a hell of a fight. Apparently the Aussie fought for 10 rounds with a broken jaw!

No. He sustained it in round 11. Briedis had his nose broken in round 4 which fucked his breathing. The Aussie was supposedly almost taken out but hung on.

Briedis wins the rematch via stylish KO 😛

Suck it Maltese Samie, the Latvian legend will rise again!

[1892tillforever]

Joe Joyce in action tonight lads. 

I think Juggernaut might get this done inside 6. Hammer isn't up to much and was stopped in 5 by Hughie Fury.

[Samie]

Hammer is shite isn't he mate? I mean it's the Heavyweight division and one punch can make a difference but he's shite.

[Barneylfc∗]

What a knockout

[Samie]

 

That was bullshit.  Now for the main event.

[Samie]

What was the point I ask myself? What exactly did Joe get out of this other than a payday?

[1892tillforever]

What was the point I ask myself? What exactly did Joe get out of this other than a payday?

Him vs Dubois was meant to be some bridge to a world title shot I thought? Since then, Dubois has fought tomato cans while Joyce hasn't beaten much better.

[Lusty]

The whole heavyweight division is in a bit of a holding pattern until someone unifies and the 4 belts scatter into the wind.

There's going to be some Martin v Glazkov level title fights coming up in the next couple of years, so none of the guys on the fringe are going to be taking risks for a while.

[Samie]

Callum Smith next fight if he were to win will be the next mandatory for Artur Beterbiev's WBC Light-Heavyweight title.

[1892tillforever]

Makes sense. Since losing to canelo he's had one fight at 175 against someone not very good so naturally he'll get a world title shot 😑

[Dull Tools]

Makes sense. Since losing to canelo he's had one fight at 175 against someone not very good so naturally he'll get a world title shot 😑

This is a weird way of thinking. He was the ring champion at the weight below and lost to the pound for pound number 1 at the time. Of course, he then is fast-tracked to a title at the higher weight. 

Do you want him to start at the bottom of the rankings again?

[1892tillforever]

This is a weird way of thinking. He was the ring champion at the weight below and lost to the pound for pound number 1 at the time. Of course, he then is fast-tracked to a title at the higher weight. 

Do you want him to start at the bottom of the rankings again?

I'd like him to beat someone better than Lenin Castillo to join the hunt for a world title! I think a fighter's achievements at a different weight shouldn't count for a huge amount when moving up or down weight divisions. They should have to beat contenders to get title shots. When you're a former world champion, it is easier to get yourself in a position to fight a top 10 fighter at a weight class quickly than if you're just another contender moving up the ladder. Smith can get a fight against someone like Buatsi, Yarde, Browne, or Ramirez more easily than someone coming through the 175 ranks for example.

No issue in Callum getting a LHW world title shot as long as he beats a high-ranking contender first. Castillo isn't ranked top 10 by any of the major organisations.

[Dull Tools]

I'd like him to beat someone better than Lenin Castillo to join the hunt for a world title! I think a fighter's achievements at a different weight shouldn't count for a huge amount when moving up or down weight divisions. They should have to beat contenders to get title shots. When you're a former world champion, it is easier to get yourself in a position to fight a top 10 fighter at a weight class quickly than if you're just another contender moving up the ladder. Smith can get a fight against someone like Buatsi, Yarde, Browne, or Ramirez more easily than someone coming through the 175 ranks for example.

No issue in Callum getting a LHW world title shot as long as he beats a high-ranking contender first. Castillo isn't ranked top 10 by any of the major organisations.

Yes maybe. But if you can get an eliminator by fighting Castillo you should take it.

But yes of course the bodies are a joke. I don't have a problem with a guy moving up and being in the rankings for the weight above straight away as it will lead to better fights.

I do agree that I would like the top British guys at that weight to fight each other tough. Any of the 3 you mention would be incredible fights.

[1892tillforever]

Yes maybe. But if you can get an eliminator by fighting Castillo you should take it.

But yes of course the bodies are a joke. I don't have a problem with a guy moving up and being in the rankings for the weight above straight away as it will lead to better fights.

I do agree that I would like the top British guys at that weight to fight each other tough. Any of the 3 you mention would be incredible fights.

I'd love to see Smith vs Gilberto 'Zurdo' Ramirez. Zurdo was a world champion at 168, is 44-0 and I'm still unsure as to how good he is