‘Good youngsters who have had good loan spells but have got to a point now where they’re unlikely to be of the required standard for us.’
And sorry, but they all have to varying degrees. Ojo did well at Fulham, Kent has had a few good ones. And in fairness Ojo has actually played at a higher level than the other two, for us. But sure, Wilson is probably a little better than Kent or Ojo. But in my opinion, still not of the required standard to make it here. And we’ll see. No ones going to be disappointed if he is.
The other youngsters are 18/19 year olds. As a Liverpool fan I can remember homegrown 18/19 year olds breaking through and becoming big players for this club. I can’t remember a 22 year old doing so. He’s been here for longer than the manager and yet is continually loaned out whilst others have got multiple opportunities. After such a high profile season I think the manager is duty bound to have a look at him during pre season....and it then seems overwhelmingly obvious that he’ll be sold or loaned out.
As for performing well for a poor side....I can’t even work that one out They were near the top all season and got to the play off final. Their young loanees did notoriously well for them. I think the lad from Chelsea won their player of the season award? The youngsters there would actually very much appear to be at the same level as Wilson, or brutally actually a little higher.
It's simple enough - you haven't really watched Derby, have you? You're just going by some 'stats' you saw, Championship Table and a few awards, a few opinions and then bam. They were not near top all season, they were at genuine risk of finishing below the playoff spot towards the end, a couple of results went their way for them to get there in the end.
I've watched them over the season quite a bit, and tactically they were naïve in most games. They only narrowly made the play-offs (last play-off spot) and did not have a big lead over other set of sides just below them. They had plenty of issues, but came up good in important moments. They were mentally stronger than they were skillfully or tactically strong. And even quite a few of those crucial moments for crucial wins came from Harry, so you could say he was one of the reasons why they made it to play-offs. I wouldn't say outright reason, no single player is, but he was an integral part there.
One of the biggest reasons why Wilson couldn't be at his high level throughout the season was because halfway through the season he was asked to play in a position that he had no idea before about, so for a few months, Wilson was being experimented with a different position, which he was learning on the stage. Mount or Tomori had no such challenges. It also shows Wilson's commitment to the team he plays for, by sacrificing his best position & his performances for the overall shape of the team. Either you didn't know this until it was pointed earlier in this thread, or you keep willingly ignoring this fact for some reason.
Mason Mount is a genuine talent, along with Mount & Tomori, Wilson was among the biggest reasons why Derby achieved what they did. Any one of the 3 could've won player of the season. While Chelsea are really excited about Mount, here we are discounting Wilson.
Kent and Ojo have nowhere near been successful as Wilson in their loans. While was thriving at Hull, Kent was a nobody at Freiberg. Ojo has not had a single successful loan so far, certainly nothing near Wilson's level. Even bringing on the simplest stats and looking at their appearances/scoring rate over all the three players' careers and you will know who has done what. Kent's last season was a success and even he was playing in a league whose level is below where Wilson's been a success for 1 and 1/2 years now. I would like them to make it here as well, and whether any of the three or none of three make it here are not, you're talking bollocks if you say they've been at the same level so far.