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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #160 on: October 9, 2019, 09:02:38 pm »
If we’re still winning and at the top then I’d be surprised if he walks away.

I believe. We've got to absolutely make him realize staying is better than leaving. FSG can do the money, we'll have to do the adulation, and belief.
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« Reply #161 on: October 9, 2019, 09:15:29 pm »
He's never stayed at a club more than 7 years and his 7th year will end end when his contract ends. I think we need all to prepare for the fact that he'll be leaving at the end of this contract.

He was at Mainz for eighteen years.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #162 on: October 9, 2019, 09:21:22 pm »
For me, the 'Doubters to Believers' quote on his first day will be etched in the folklore of this club. The whole mentality of the place has changed, there is literally no one I fancy to beat us at the moment and that's a far cry from the end of the Rodgers reign, and certainly further back than that during the Hodgson days. I was completely convinced we'd come back against Barca for instance, and that wasn't just bravado or gallows humour, it was genuine belief built off what I'd seen previously from Klopp and the boys.

He's reinvigorated a beast which is now reaching the peak of its powers. What a fantastic ride it's been, and it promises to get even better yet.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #163 on: October 9, 2019, 10:03:19 pm »
Fuck I hope it doesn’t come out that Klopp has murdered 1000’s in a secret illegal drone war

Would explain why the crowds are so sparse at the Etihad

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #164 on: October 9, 2019, 10:28:06 pm »
Four years. How time flies when we're having fun.

It's worth re-watching his first press conference - how happy he was to be here, how well he understood where we were, and how well he articulated where we needed to be. He was the absolute perfect fit at the perfect time.

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The 'we spent 10 seconds? talking about this' bit was the most important bit for me. There was some pretty divisive shit going on with Brendan v Transfer Committee... and Jurgen nails exactly what we needed. 'First and last and lots in between' involvement with who and why we bring in or move on a player. The 'first' will have no bearing on reality of course*... but 'philosophically' speaking, hugely important.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp 4th Anniversary
« Reply #165 on: October 10, 2019, 05:24:32 am »
A run-down of his first 4 years in stats, from PA/Sporting Life:

146 - the number of games it took Klopp to record 300 league points - the fewest required by any of the club's managers.

Not too shabby, really.  :D

I guarantee Shankly would not have achieved this.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp 4th Anniversary
« Reply #166 on: October 10, 2019, 06:09:30 am »
I guarantee Shankly would not have achieved this.
So do I, in his day it was 2 points for a win.  :)
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #167 on: October 10, 2019, 11:07:02 am »
Four years. How time flies when we're having fun.

It's worth re-watching his first press conference - how happy he was to be here, how well he understood where we were, and how well he articulated where we needed to be. He was the absolute perfect fit at the perfect time.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #168 on: October 10, 2019, 11:21:55 am »
He was at Mainz for eighteen years.

Well you twisted that well didn't you? Player for 11 years, manager for 7.

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« Reply #169 on: October 11, 2019, 12:20:03 pm »
Liverpool's Jurgen Klopp was named manager of the month for the second consecutive month.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50012209
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #170 on: October 11, 2019, 12:51:16 pm »
I guarantee Shankly would not have achieved this.


Me too..seen as we were a basket case in division two at the time
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #171 on: October 11, 2019, 01:01:51 pm »
Liverpool's Jurgen Klopp was named manager of the month for the second consecutive month.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50012209

Gonna be embarrassing when he’s named it every month this season.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #172 on: October 11, 2019, 01:14:45 pm »
I guarantee Shankly would not have achieved this.

The maximum points Shankly could have accumulated from 146 games was 292 points, so you are right.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #173 on: October 11, 2019, 01:21:49 pm »
He's never stayed at a club more than 7 years and his 7th year will end end when his contract ends. I think we need all to prepare for the fact that he'll be leaving at the end of this contract.
Heard a podcast interview with Rafa Honigstein last month. He summed it up by saying that in all likelihood not even Klopp himself knows. Guardiola tends to plan things out in advance and Mourinho is always looking for the next thing, but if Klopp hasn't signed a new contract it's a sign he's happy to see how things pan out for now.

He did mention that the allure of the German national job would be hard to turn down. He's changed the entire mindset of our club, so imagine the effect of uniting a whole nation. There's the added bonus that the work schedule is more attractive.

I'm hoping that somebody comes from out of nowhere and does an incredible job with Germany, thus locking down that role for the foreseeable future.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #174 on: October 11, 2019, 03:48:55 pm »
Players such as Robertson, Mane, Alexander Arnold and loads more,. There's not even a debate, they could get into any team in the world bar none. Were they always destined for that level ?   Or are they the player they are because of what Klopp has done and the environment he has provided ? 
There was clearly talent there from day 1, but the strides they have made and the consistency in their games, its incredible.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #175 on: October 11, 2019, 04:09:53 pm »
Not just a great manager, but also a great man and leader. I'm convinced he'd make a very successful Fortune 500 CEO. Just our luck that his teacher once told him that if it wasn't for football he didn't see much hope for his future.  :P

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #176 on: October 11, 2019, 11:42:56 pm »
Well you twisted that well didn't you? Player for 11 years, manager for 7.

Not really, and that's a little unkind, I'm not one for twisting things so that's not a good thing to suggest. I'd literally just watched 'Klopp's journey to the kop' on LFC TV. It showed me that Klopp is a complicated character, everything he does is carefully considered and calculated, he's intelligent and evolves and changes depending on situations. It's actually an insult to his intelligence to simply state he will move on after 7 years. He's a different person to who he was 7 years ago as we all are, circumstances change and so do people's approach to it.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #177 on: October 12, 2019, 12:49:41 am »
Every situation is different and you could see how important it was to him to keep his squad together. All of the blood, sweat and tears building something, only to see it dismantled, has to be beyond frustrating. I believe if the situation at the club is still where he wants it to be, and he’s enjoying it, he will stay.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #178 on: October 12, 2019, 01:36:09 am »
It’s terrible but I often have thoughts of when he leaves. Ffs we are close to doing it and theirs a few years left, I still think about it.

We have to do everything possible to keep him. If it means him taking a year off and one of his staff taking the lead so be it.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #179 on: October 12, 2019, 03:49:54 am »
I am pretty reconciled to the fact he won't be staying here beyond 2022, especially after he refused to sign an extension during the summer. I won't be surprised if he considers staying at Liverpool longer than the time he spent at Mainz and Dortmund a tad disrespectful to his previous clubs.

A long way to go, but the club probably appreciates it would be impossible to hire a Klopp clone. For once, I am relaxed that the club is headed by capable men who will absolutely make the right appointment when the time comes.

A somewhat contentious decision, that I won't be at all displeased with, is if they choose to rehire Rodgers on the proviso he consistently gets Leicester into the Champions League over the next couple of years.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #180 on: October 12, 2019, 07:32:28 am »
If we're still winning/challenging he'll give us a couple more years I reckon. 

He was supposed to have stayed at Dortmund till 2018 but the 14/15 season took so much out of him he decided to leave early and take a break.

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« Reply #181 on: October 12, 2019, 08:34:40 am »
I guarantee Shankly would not have achieved this.

What a bizarre thing to say. Strange.

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« Reply #182 on: October 12, 2019, 09:02:24 am »
What a bizarre thing to say. Strange.

Nothing bizarre about it at all. For all that we idolise our previous managers, 2+ppg is a modern phenomenon. Even Paisley never achieved it before the 1981-82 season (Aston Villa won the title with a measly 60 points from 42 games the previous season). I guarantee Shankly took more than 146 games to amass his first 300 points. I blame Jimmy Hill for this.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #183 on: October 12, 2019, 09:04:46 am »
Yes I am shitting the bed.

Sorry to hear this.
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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #184 on: October 12, 2019, 11:44:49 am »
I am pretty reconciled to the fact he won't be staying here beyond 2022, especially after he refused to sign an extension during the summer. I won't be surprised if he considers staying at Liverpool longer than the time he spent at Mainz and Dortmund a tad disrespectful to his previous clubs.

A long way to go, but the club probably appreciates it would be impossible to hire a Klopp clone. For once, I am relaxed that the club is headed by capable men who will absolutely make the right appointment when the time comes.


there's been some mad theories, but that ones up there  ;)

For starters the whole 7 year thing is pure coincidence, but actually - it's also not true. Being as he was the coach of Mainz 05 for longer than 7 seasons.
 

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #185 on: October 12, 2019, 12:08:57 pm »
Is it just coincidence that....

1. Kloppo's contract ends summer 2022
2. Gerrard's contract ends summer 2022
3. Low's contract ends after the World Cup in December 2022

Gives Klopp a decent break before taking over from Low. SG has been lauded by Klopp as the next LFC manager.

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« Reply #186 on: October 12, 2019, 12:12:54 pm »
Is it just coincidence that....

1. Kloppo's contract ends summer 2022
2. Gerrard's contract ends summer 2022
3. Low's contract ends after the World Cup in December 2022

Gives Klopp a decent break before taking over from Low. SG has been lauded by Klopp as the next LFC manager.

Gerrard should get some experience in a team which competes in a relevant league before even being considered to be the next manager imo. Im sorry but being a club legend doesn't mean you should get the job instantly and doesn't mean you can do well. See the mancs. 

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #187 on: October 12, 2019, 12:31:09 pm »
Interesting video posted today on Youtube.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #188 on: October 12, 2019, 12:34:25 pm »
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« Reply #189 on: October 12, 2019, 03:53:16 pm »
there's been some mad theories, but that ones up there  ;)

For starters the whole 7 year thing is pure coincidence, but actually - it's also not true. Being as he was the coach of Mainz 05 for longer than 7 seasons.

He himself has admitted in the past that he felt after 7 years that the cycle had run its course at his old clubs (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/12/21/jurgen-klopp-predicts-seven-year-itch-will-end-time-liverpool/). The fact he's been reluctant to sign a new contract only increases the probability that he will need to be strongly convinced to extend his stay beyond that arbitrary mark.

Of course, there are no guarantees about anything. Alex Ferguson famously always used to state that he'd retire once he was 60, only to change his mind when push came to shove.
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« Reply #190 on: October 12, 2019, 04:18:41 pm »
Gonna be embarrassing when he’s named it every month this season.

Especially when Hodgson gets manager of the year for finishing sixth.
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« Reply #191 on: October 12, 2019, 04:38:27 pm »
The difference with Klopp's previous clubs is that they're not Liverpool.  That's no disrespect to them but we're not a plucky club punching above our weight. Yes we share our league with a behemoth but Liverpool dines at the top table and can enjoy a sustained period of success Klopp could never have achieved at Dortmund or Mainz.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing him take a crack at the England job after us.
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« Reply #192 on: October 12, 2019, 06:16:28 pm »


Personally I wouldn't mind seeing him take a crack at the England job after us.

I'd hate it. How could I continue to despise the England team and hope they lose every game.
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« Reply #193 on: October 12, 2019, 06:39:14 pm »
I'd hate it. How could I continue to despise the England team and hope they lose every game.

Well you couldn't, but it would be the ultimate experiment - if England can't win anything with Jurgen in charge then they'll never win anything. ;D
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« Reply #194 on: October 12, 2019, 07:26:20 pm »
If we’re still winning and at the top then I’d be surprised if he walks away.

I wouldn't be surprised. I read in the Echo ages ago that he wanted to retire at 60.  He's 52 and also has ambitions to manage Germany, so he only has a few years left to fulfil those ambitions.

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« Reply #195 on: October 12, 2019, 07:47:05 pm »
To even consider Gerrard as a replacement for Klopp is beyond stupidity.

I know the English press will be desperate for this move but for god sake, I wish some fans would see a bit more sense.

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Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Reply #196 on: October 12, 2019, 08:25:06 pm »
To even consider Gerrard as a replacement for Klopp is beyond stupidity.

I know the English press will be desperate for this move but for god sake, I wish some fans would see a bit more sense.

If Gerrard is the best manager that we can attract then so be it but as you have indicated Gerrard would have to have a fantastic turnaround in his fortunes for that to be the case. Managerial appointments should be based on a managers track record not the fans affinity for one particular candidate. Otherwise you end up with Ole at the wheel.
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« Reply #198 on: October 12, 2019, 09:00:51 pm »
To even consider Gerrard as a replacement for Klopp is beyond stupidity.

I know the English press will be desperate for this move but for god sake, I wish some fans would see a bit more sense.

As I said previously, Klopp's successor will be carefully planned out.  Jurgen loves us too much to just up and leave us in the lurch.  This is the new Boot Room - Klopp's replacement will not be a shot in the dark.  If that replacement is Steven Gerrard (for example) it wont be a hit-and-hope choice.  FSG have come too far and learned too much to do that.
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