Topic: Results Comparison Thread 2019-20

[royhendo]

fuck me...

No mate I was wrong... it was 33 and 1.94.

It could all still go wrong. (I love messrs Parkins and Beasley. Also Prof.)

[TepidT2O]

No mate I was wrong... it was 33 and 1.94.

It could all still go wrong. (I love messrs Parkins and Beasley. Also Prof.)

Oh... 1.94 points...


No chance then .... I think we’ve moved beyond handily placed anyway

[Brian Blessed]

1.875

[JP-65]

Match 23 update:

Keeps getting better, I may have to stop doing this after this season, hard to beat perfection 

[wemmick]

It’s mad that we still have a chance to win all our home matches.

[Alan_X]

Some things to take from the Season to Go matrix.

11 of the remaining 16 games are against bottom half teams. City have 7 against the top half and 5 of those are away.

City have 'blown away' teams (won by three goals or more) but the teams are Burnley, Brighton, West Ham, Watford & Villa. They struggle to get routine wins or hold narrow leads.

[Sharado]

Some things to take from the Season to Go matrix.

11 of the remaining 16 games are against bottom half teams. City have 7 against the top half and 5 of those are away.

City have 'blown away' teams (won by three goals or more) but the teams are Burnley, Brighton, West Ham, Watford & Villa. They struggle to get routine wins or hold narrow leads.

That's actually been the case for them more or less the whole time under Pep, it's just gone a bit unnoticed as when they're good they're very very good. But their record at coming back to win, or even draw, is pretty terrible. Plenty of flair, not many minerals.

[redk84]

2015/16 Liverpool. Steven Gerrard just left, Rodgers got sacked in this season and Klopp took charge

We have to go at a ppg rate of that team with the remaining fixtures to win the league. (if City win all their remaining games, which they won't)

 

[rafas red brigade]

2015/16 Liverpool. Steven Gerrard just left, Rodgers got sacked in this season and Klopp took charge

We have to go at a ppg rate of that team with the remaining fixtures to win the league. (if City win all their remaining games, which they won't)

 

Also have to bear in mind that for the last few games of that season we rotated very heavily once we got past Dortmund, if memory serves me right. In the end we finished 6 points behind top 4 which I always wondered if we'd have got if not for the long run in Europe.

[BassTunedToRed]

It’s mad that we still have a chance to win all our home matches.

Three more home wins at least would be nice, to set a new top flight record of 22 successive home wins (though the 1972 Liverpool have the record anyway!).

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Also have to bear in mind that for the last few games of that season we rotated very heavily once we got past Dortmund, if memory serves me right. In the end we finished 6 points behind top 4 which I always wondered if we'd have got if not for the long run in Europe.

Never realised we got that close! From memory, we jibbed off the game against Swansea away (lost 3-1) and played a weakened team against Newcastle (somehow drew 2-2 after being 2-0 up and in control), Chelsea (drew 1-1) and West Brom (drew 1-1). We were so inconsistent though, there is no guarantee those results would have been different with a full strength team. Also didn't help that Sakho was wrongly banned.

We actually threw away 2-0 leads 3 times at the back end of the season - losing 3-2 to Southampton and drawing 2-2 with Newcastle and Sunderland. That's 7 points blown just there.

But as I said on here a few days ago, not qualifying for the Champions League that season was really a blessing in disguise. We signed Mane instead of Gotze and never looked back.

[rafas red brigade]

Never realised we got that close! From memory, we jibbed off the game against Swansea away (lost 3-1) and played a weakened team against Newcastle (somehow drew 2-2 after being 2-0 up and in control), Chelsea (drew 1-1) and West Brom (drew 1-1). We were so inconsistent though, there is no guarantee those results would have been different with a full strength team. Also didn't help that Sakho was wrongly banned.

We actually threw away 2-0 leads 3 times at the back end of the season - losing 3-2 to Southampton and drawing 2-2 with Newcastle and Sunderland. That's 7 points blown just there.

But as I said on here a few days ago, not qualifying for the Champions League that season was really a blessing in disguise. We signed Mane instead of Gotze and never looked back.

Very true, I wouldn't change anything from the past because it might mean we're nowhere near as good as we are now. But yeah, six points separated five teams, from City in 4th down to us in 8th. Mad to think now how little the target for CL football was that year (or the title for that matter).

[Macca201188]

Never realised we got that close! From memory, we jibbed off the game against Swansea away (lost 3-1) and played a weakened team against Newcastle (somehow drew 2-2 after being 2-0 up and in control), Chelsea (drew 1-1) and West Brom (drew 1-1). We were so inconsistent though, there is no guarantee those results would have been different with a full strength team. Also didn't help that Sakho was wrongly banned.

We actually threw away 2-0 leads 3 times at the back end of the season - losing 3-2 to Southampton and drawing 2-2 with Newcastle and Sunderland. That's 7 points blown just there.

But as I said on here a few days ago, not qualifying for the Champions League that season was really a blessing in disguise. We signed Mane instead of Gotze and never looked back.

I remember the Sunderland come back was after the fans protest walking out on the 77th minute as a stand against the ticket prices. Stranger atmosphere and Sunderland took advantage.

[DonkeyWan]

Think the Wolves game on Thursday will be incredibly tough. Think it will force Klopp to play a significantly weakened FA cup side.

[JP-65]

Nice one from twitter, disproving the "league is weak" argument:

[Sangria]

Some things to take from the Season to Go matrix.

11 of the remaining 16 games are against bottom half teams. City have 7 against the top half and 5 of those are away.

City have 'blown away' teams (won by three goals or more) but the teams are Burnley, Brighton, West Ham, Watford & Villa. They struggle to get routine wins or hold narrow leads.

There's a big block of white in their away column at the top, punctuated by a couple of red bars.

[Sangria]

Match 23 update:

Keeps getting better, I may have to stop doing this after this season, hard to beat perfection 

I have an unusual printer that prints from right to left. I think I need to change the printer cartridge, because it seems to have run out of red by the time it gets to the left edge.

[JP-65]

It's very possible that we wrap it up, mathematically, in March!

[JP-65]

Match 24 update: 1.80 max ppg required

[Sangria]

I've grown to appreciate seeing greens fill up our table, while there's still a big whack of white at the top of City's table.

[Geppvindh's]

I've grown to appreciate seeing greens fill up our table, while there's still a big whack of white at the top of City's table.

Yep, I noted at the start of the season how Dec-Jan was the hardest block of fixtures for us on paper and we've absolutely smashed it. February looks much easier on paper. I also love how the fans have internalised the one game at a time mantra that the manager and players have been vocally calling out at every opportunity and the next 5 games thread has died out. Next up, West Ham away, which I fully expect 3 points from.

[rafas red brigade]

I've grown to appreciate seeing greens fill up our table, while there's still a big whack of white at the top of City's table.

Yeah definitely. On the other hand, look at Spurs! I know they don't really affect us anymore (unless they can take another 2-3 points off City) but damn, they really are crap against the bigger teams. This season's even worse than last!

[Sangria]

Yeah definitely. On the other hand, look at Spurs! I know they don't really affect us anymore (unless they can take another 2-3 points off City) but damn, they really are crap against the bigger teams. This season's even worse than last!

Only Man Utd among those listed have been taking an appreciable number of points off the top teams. Although Tottenham have been slightly worse than the others, with 0 wins instead of 1. Leicester are the other team with 0 wins against the top teams, but in their defence they have a few home games remaining to make up this deficit. Man City are notable in having a big block of white in their away column.

If Man Utd fans see this table, it may take some pressure off Ole. Other than us, they're the only team with a really positive record against the top teams. Maybe Wolves as well, but they're not listed so we can't easily compare.

[BassTunedToRed]

Maybe Wolves as well, but they're not listed so we can't easily compare.

If you make a mini league of the big six teams plus Wolves since the start of last season, then Wolves are third. Very good against the big teams.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/eigenetabelle/wettbewerb/GB1?vereine%5B%5D=11&vereine%5B%5D=631&vereine%5B%5D=31&vereine%5B%5D=281&vereine%5B%5D=985&vereine%5B%5D=148&vereine%5B%5D=543&saison_id_von=2018&saison_id_bis=2019&yt0=Send++

[rafas red brigade]

If you make a mini league of the big six teams plus Wolves since the start of last season, then Wolves are third. Very good against the big teams.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/eigenetabelle/wettbewerb/GB1?vereine%5B%5D=11&vereine%5B%5D=631&vereine%5B%5D=31&vereine%5B%5D=281&vereine%5B%5D=985&vereine%5B%5D=148&vereine%5B%5D=543&saison_id_von=2018&saison_id_bis=2019&yt0=Send++

That's brilliant, I didn't know you could do that on transfermarkt.

[BassTunedToRed]

That's brilliant, I didn't know you could do that on transfermarkt.

Yep, any mini league you like across any range of Premier League seasons.

[royhendo]

1.71PPG required.

[Alan_X]

1.71PPG required.

That's ridiculous in January...

[JP-65]

Updated:

Beat me to it Roy 

[Yosser0_0]

Match 24 update: 1.80 max ppg required

After 24 matches for us, I make that 5 points ahead of where City were at the same point of their 'historic' season.

[JP-65]

5 better than City's 100 point season

[JP-65]

Amazing looking at the Results Matrix, how few matches Spurs, Arsenal & Chelsea have won against the top half of the table!

[terry_macss_perm]

Updated:

Beat me to it Roy 

Those home and away records - if we’d fielded two separate teams for home and away games I think our ‘home’ team would be 4th in the main table on 36 points and our ‘away’ team 5th on 34.

Both with 12 games in hand.

[hesbighesred]

Those home and away records - if we’d fielded two separate teams for home and away games I think our ‘home’ team would be 4th in the main table on 36 points and our ‘away’ team 5th on 34.

Both with 12 games in hand.

Hahahahaha, quality!

[redk84]

Those home and away records - if we’d fielded two separate teams for home and away games I think our ‘home’ team would be 4th in the main table on 36 points and our ‘away’ team 5th on 34.

Both with 12 games in hand.

That is INSANE! 

8 wins from 14 games.
Maybe less....

ooooOOOoOoOoOOOOO

[Hunts Cross]

Borrowed from u/Ants1234 on Reddit
We are 8 points ahead in comparable games and 9 points ahead of Game Week 24 last season.

[dstorey]

We gained two more points from the equivalent game week last season. We're now 11 points(!) ahead of our run rate last season. 73-62. 5 points above the GW25 PL record (Man City's Centurions.)

We have equaled our first major record this season. 20 home wins in a row. Level with Man City. We actually have very few official PL records, but that is starting to change. Our only other ones are joint record for fewest home losses (0), most away goals (48), most points without winning the title (one we didn't want to win! I don't recall that record being there before last season), and ever present PL club (hardly an achievement...unless you're Everton.)

[royhendo]

1.61PPG (sorry JP I can't wait).

[JP-65]

1.61PPG (sorry JP I can't wait).

1.38 

[JP-65]

Nice going by City as well.....our 97 point 2nd place is going to remain as the only greater than 90 point 2nd place in PL history.