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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #40 on: July 3, 2019, 08:50:36 am »
Meanwhile Sibley scores a double ton. He’s surely next in line.

He's got a first class average of 37.45 after 59 matches, he's had two centuries (including that double) and four scores over fifty this season. So yeah why not?

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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #41 on: July 3, 2019, 03:54:25 pm »
Yorks require 5 more wickets in the last session, Surrey 150 runs. Nicely poised if Surrey decide to go for it. Also a chance for young Coad to remind the selectors.....
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #42 on: July 3, 2019, 04:20:59 pm »
Yorks require 5 more wickets in the last session, Surrey 150 runs. Nicely poised if Surrey decide to go for it. Also a chance for young Coad to remind the selectors.....

Similar scenario for Lancs to win against Durham in the neutral territory of Sedbergh (Cumbria, formerly Yorkshire!).

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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #43 on: July 3, 2019, 04:29:33 pm »
Similar scenario for Lancs to win against Durham in the neutral territory of Sedbergh (Cumbria, formerly Yorkshire!).

West-Riding of Yorkshire too, even tho it's way-oop North.
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #44 on: July 3, 2019, 08:43:26 pm »
Similar scenario for Lancs to win against Durham in the neutral territory of Sedbergh (Cumbria, formerly Yorkshire!).

I was listening to some of commentary on this one this morning on Long Wave and Martin Emmerson of BBC Radio Newcastle mentioned that he'd got caught up in the sheep-moving rush hour earlier that morning whilst travelling to the ground.
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I also heard earlier this week on BBC Radio Merseyside that it was quite controversial to play the match there rather than Aigburth, Southport or even Blackpool. Anyway, I'm sure the sheep appreciated it!
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #45 on: July 4, 2019, 07:06:07 am »
He's got a first class average of 37.45 after 59 matches, he's had two centuries (including that double) and four scores over fifty this season. So yeah why not?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/player/519082.html

I believe they will definitely select Roy to open the batting against Ireland at Lord's in a few weeks.

Number 3 is the open position: anyone of Denly, Ballance, Sibley, Northeast and Malan can grab that slot if they want. Vince might have been in with a chance before the World Cup, but fairly or unfairly he's squandered that now, I guess.

Denly's the man in possession and he scored a matchwinning century against Notts a fortnight ago. However, he's not a long-term option and his technique will be tested to the fullest by Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins. I have my doubts whether he'd survive that test.

Knowing England though, they probably won't drop any of their all-rounders and offer up someone like Moeen Ali or Ben Stokes as the sacrificial lamb.
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #46 on: July 4, 2019, 08:52:12 am »
Modern and Stokes are all rounders though. Neither of those are being dropped for the tests especially with Moeen as our number 1 spinner in the format.

Ballance and Malan need to be nowhere near the test team. I know Ballance scores CC runs but he's Ramprakash/Hick mark 2.

They'd be stupid not to pick Roy, hes got that x factor that will terrify opposition bowlers a lot like Pietersen had when he first came in.

Jimmy was also on Twitter saying his injury is a minor injury. Either way I'd leave him out of the Ireland test and make sure hes ready for the Ashes. They can play Archer instead.

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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #47 on: July 4, 2019, 09:08:41 am »
Agree on resting Jimmy. Assuming we had to pick our strongest team I think the bowlers would be Jimmy, Broad, one more seamer, Stokes and Moeen.

Does that mean there’s only one slot for Archer, Wood, Woakes, Sam Curran to fight over? Read someone (Derek Pringle maybe?!) day Curran is only really a viable option in England and might be best being kept as an understudy for Stokes rather than be picked as a frontline seamer. He has done well when called upon though, especially if conditions are right.
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #48 on: July 4, 2019, 09:12:35 am »
Modern and Stokes are all rounders though. Neither of those are being dropped for the tests especially with Moeen as our number 1 spinner in the format.

Ballance and Malan need to be nowhere near the test team. I know Ballance scores CC runs but he's Ramprakash/Hick mark 2.

They'd be stupid not to pick Roy, hes got that x factor that will terrify opposition bowlers a lot like Pietersen had when he first came in.

Jimmy was also on Twitter saying his injury is a minor injury. Either way I'd leave him out of the Ireland test and make sure hes ready for the Ashes. They can play Archer instead.

I don't disagree that Moeen or Stokes can't be dropped. The problem is that neither Bairstow nor Root seem inclined to bat at 3. If they are set on picking Buttler in the middle order as well, someone needs to bat at 3. I just don't think that should be Moeen or Stokes. I'd tell Root to get on with it and take responsibility.
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #49 on: July 4, 2019, 09:25:48 am »
I'd be surprised if it's a 'full strength' side vs ireland

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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #50 on: July 4, 2019, 10:55:00 am »
I'd be surprised if it's a 'full strength' side vs ireland

I was thinking that. You'd imagine players who featured in the WC would be given a rest.

Also, with it being a 4 day game I assume it's not actually a test match?
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #51 on: July 4, 2019, 11:38:18 am »
I don't disagree that Moeen or Stokes can't be dropped. The problem is that neither Bairstow nor Root seem inclined to bat at 3. If they are set on picking Buttler in the middle order as well, someone needs to bat at 3. I just don't think that should be Moeen or Stokes. I'd tell Root to get on with it and take responsibility.

We've been through this a million times though and Root doesn't like batting at 3. He also averages 8 runs an innings less at 3 than he does at 4. Playing him at 3 significantly reduces his batting ability so telling him to get on with it isn't an option at all.

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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #52 on: July 4, 2019, 11:41:30 am »
I was thinking that. You'd imagine players who featured in the WC would be given a rest.

Also, with it being a 4 day game I assume it's not actually a test match?

The ICC approved test status for 4-day matches a couple of years ago, so this will fully count in the records. From memory, I think it will be second official 4-day test (SA vs Zimbabwe was the first).
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #53 on: July 5, 2019, 08:58:33 am »
The ICC approved test status for 4-day matches a couple of years ago, so this will fully count in the records. From memory, I think it will be second official 4-day test (SA vs Zimbabwe was the first).

I really don't like the sound of 4-day matches as its the thin edge of the for me. However if it's just to get the new test playing nations more matches rather than going towards official ranking points, I guess it's fine. It does look like for the new ICC World Test Championship they will only allow five day games but series of less than five matches are allowed which I suppose mirrors the current situation in the Test Championship. 

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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #54 on: July 5, 2019, 09:25:03 am »
We've been through this a million times though and Root doesn't like batting at 3. He also averages 8 runs an innings less at 3 than he does at 4. Playing him at 3 significantly reduces his batting ability so telling him to get on with it isn't an option at all.

So who'd you have at 3 then ?
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« Reply #55 on: July 5, 2019, 11:43:58 am »
No idea. Denly has only played 2 tests so probably deserves more chances. I know he's 33 but tests careers can last into your late 30s and if it gives the chance for someone younger to develop in the county game then it helps.

I'd have Jason Roy opening with someone else though

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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #56 on: July 7, 2019, 02:59:59 pm »
Nice to see Olly Stone take a 5-fer on his first-class return after a stress fracture of the back. Given his pace, he is definitely one to be nurtured carefully by the ECB.
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« Reply #57 on: July 8, 2019, 12:41:38 pm »
Yorkshire in a spot of bother against Essex, who are in great form.

Yorkshire were bowled out for 208 on day one and on day 2 Essex are currently 167/3

League leaders Somerset on top against Notts, who are yet to win a game this season.
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« Reply #58 on: July 8, 2019, 01:08:02 pm »
Another half century for Crawley at Kent, looks a very good opening batsman.
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #59 on: July 8, 2019, 02:20:50 pm »
The mystery of what happened to Hameed deepens.
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« Reply #60 on: July 8, 2019, 02:32:10 pm »
The mystery of what happened to Hameed deepens.

Just saw that. 2/2, him and Jennings gone cheaply again. Chasing around 400 this time as well so for once our bowlers haven’t done the damage up front.

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« Reply #61 on: July 8, 2019, 06:03:23 pm »
Yorkshire sinking fast. Shame.

33/3

87 needed to avoid an innings defeat.
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« Reply #62 on: July 9, 2019, 06:43:38 am »
Just saw that. 2/2, him and Jennings gone cheaply again. Chasing around 400 this time as well so for once our bowlers haven’t done the damage up front.

Cheaply?? They've both been bowled out for a duck in their last TWO innings, that isn't good from your opening pair. At least Jennings has had a couple of scores this season but Hameed has been woeful, his highest score has been 30 and has struggled to get to double figures in most matches.
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #63 on: July 9, 2019, 08:51:02 am »
Hameed averages more than Jennings in the CC this season and his highest score is 117. He's also scored more runs in less innings than Jennings. Jennings highest score is 97. He's been better than Jennings.

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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #64 on: July 9, 2019, 09:13:14 am »
Sibley and Crawley (not John) have a chance to impress for the Lions in the warm-up match against Australia next week.

Potentially also an opportunity for Jack Leach to fashion an advantage with his metronomic left-arm spin. He's not been in the best of form for Somerset this season though.
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« Reply #65 on: July 9, 2019, 11:14:07 am »
Hameed averages more than Jennings in the CC this season and his highest score is 117. He's also scored more runs in less innings than Jennings. Jennings highest score is 97. He's been better than Jennings.

Aye, they were only showing his last eight innings on the espn stats, it looks like they are ranked 63 and 95 respectively in the Division 2 rankings.
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #66 on: July 9, 2019, 11:34:30 am »
Aye, they were only showing his last eight innings on the espn stats, it looks like they are ranked 63 and 95 respectively in the Division 2 rankings.

I always go to the BBC for the year on year averages as it's fairly accurate and you can choose by team. Either way they've both been crap! Such a shame for Hameed as he could have had it all.

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« Reply #67 on: July 9, 2019, 11:36:10 am »
Yorkshire 5 down.

62 more needed to avoid an innings defeat. Which will be Essex's 4th innings win in the last 5 games. The drew the other against league leaders (for now) Somerset.
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« Reply #68 on: July 9, 2019, 12:04:53 pm »
I always go to the BBC for the year on year averages as it's fairly accurate and you can choose by team. Either way they've both been crap! Such a shame for Hameed as he could have had it all.

Yeah I know and that's the strange thing about Jennings too in that whenever I've watched him in first class games including one day-ers, he looks very good technically and yet has really struggled when he's been asked to step up to the next level.
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« Reply #69 on: July 9, 2019, 12:07:42 pm »
Alex Davies currently 145 n.o. for Lancs.
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« Reply #70 on: July 9, 2019, 01:34:41 pm »
Alex Davies currently 145 n.o. for Lancs.

Well jinxed Yoder. Davies our for 147 and lost the last 6 wickets for next to nothing after you posted that!

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« Reply #71 on: July 9, 2019, 01:46:44 pm »
Well jinxed Yoder. Davies our for 147 and lost the last 6 wickets for next to nothing after you posted that!

Good at predicting wickets, I am.  Yeesssssss.



The only real surprise was that he didn't loose his wicket immediately after I pressed the 'post' button.

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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #72 on: July 10, 2019, 04:01:32 pm »
Haseeb Hameed 50* not out klaxon. Lancs 165/3 at Tea in the final day. Can’t win, ‘just’ need to bat out for the draw.

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« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2019, 02:20:34 pm »
Haseeb Hameed 50* not out klaxon. Lancs 165/3 at Tea in the final day. Can’t win, ‘just’ need to bat out for the draw.

That's good but he does need to demonstrate some consistency.
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Re: 2019 County Cricket Thread
« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2019, 02:23:54 pm »
Sussex 123/9 * (44.4 ov)
 
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Glenn Maxwell of all people getting four wickets! With young Matt Parkinson getting a 5-for too! I assume James Anderson won't play again for Lancashire before the Ashes which is probably a wise move.
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« Reply #75 on: July 13, 2019, 02:33:01 pm »
Sussex 123/9 * (44.4 ov)
 
Lancashire Yet to Bat

Glenn Maxwell of all people getting four wickets! With young Matt Parkinson getting a 5-for too! I assume James Anderson won't play again for Lancashire before the Ashes which is probably a wise move.

Anderson's a slight doubt for the first test, so he won't be playing the Ireland test either.
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« Reply #76 on: July 13, 2019, 03:01:48 pm »
Sussex 123/9 * (44.4 ov)
 
Lancashire Yet to Bat

Glenn Maxwell of all people getting four wickets! With young Matt Parkinson getting a 5-for too! I assume James Anderson won't play again for Lancashire before the Ashes which is probably a wise move.

Parkinson finished with 6/23. No idea why he hasn’t played more this season (might have been injured, got a smack to the face didn’t he?). I know the seamers have played well but they picked Parry over him in the last game.

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« Reply #77 on: July 13, 2019, 03:11:59 pm »
Parkinson finished with 6/23. No idea why he hasn’t played more this season (might have been injured, got a smack to the face didn’t he?). I know the seamers have played well but they picked Parry over him in the last game.

Yes very impressive from Parkinson, I assume Parry was the preferred a spin option as they have so many seamers to choose from. I notice Hameed drops to 3 when Alex Davies plays so he must be the preferred opener, I hadn't clocked that before. I'm not sure of the stats but perhaps Hameed gets better scores at three? 
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« Reply #78 on: July 14, 2019, 08:51:27 pm »
Sussex 127 & 15/0 * (4 ov)
 
Lancashire 494/6d

Stumps, day 2 of 4.
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« Reply #79 on: July 15, 2019, 04:39:13 pm »
Sussex 127 & 15/0 * (4 ov)
 
Lancashire 494/6d

Stumps, day 2 of 4.

Lancs win by an innings. 10 wickets in the match for Parkinson.