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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #320 on: January 27, 2020, 07:35:21 pm »
Unlikely we qualify in all honesty.

Shame as be good to take a team down there.


If we can get past Shrewsbury then I reckon we could certainly nick a draw away to Chelsea then hopefully get past them in the replay.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #321 on: January 27, 2020, 07:36:42 pm »
A club our size can win all 3, please stop selling us short.

Funny how this season was about winning the title in the beginning, not getting a treble.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #322 on: January 27, 2020, 07:36:50 pm »
Hate how the F.A. have an agenda against city.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #323 on: January 27, 2020, 07:36:51 pm »
The title is more important than the FA Cup, that should be the priority this season.
Jill, people can still want us to win the FA Cup. None of us here have any influence.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #324 on: January 27, 2020, 07:37:59 pm »

If we can get past Shrewsbury then I reckon we could certainly nick a draw away to Chelsea then hopefully get past them in the replay.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #325 on: January 27, 2020, 07:38:20 pm »

No replay in round 5


If we can get past Shrewsbury then I reckon we could certainly nick a draw away to Chelsea then hopefully get past them in the replay.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #326 on: January 27, 2020, 07:38:36 pm »
ET and pens on night

Misread this - is this (round 4) the last round that has replays then?
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #327 on: January 27, 2020, 07:38:55 pm »
The title is more important than the FA Cup, that should be the priority this season.

You can still field a team to beat them in replay and also win the title.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #328 on: January 27, 2020, 07:40:03 pm »
Meh!

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #329 on: January 27, 2020, 07:40:09 pm »
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #330 on: January 27, 2020, 07:40:29 pm »
A club our size can win all 3, please stop selling us short.
Really have you not been on this earth the last 30 years, it's Prem 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Next year with a Prem title under our belt we go for everything.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #331 on: January 27, 2020, 07:41:23 pm »
The title is more important than the FA Cup, that should be the priority this season.
The title is done. Come March we’ll be resting people in the league to save them for the champions league. See absolutely no idea why we can’t go for all 3

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #332 on: January 27, 2020, 07:41:52 pm »
The title is more important than the FA Cup, that should be the priority this season.
1000 percent.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #333 on: January 27, 2020, 07:42:21 pm »
Well Klopp disagrees with it as he clearly showed when we played Everton at home. So if he thinks the squad is too thin for all 3 I'm gonna trust him on this one and not you.

Not asking you to trust me, I'm sure you're old enough and clever enough to form your own opinion.

Everton came during a tough period, no complaints with that team or the one fielded yesterday.  We're good enough to win all 3 competitions, surprised some think we would struggle considering our current position.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #334 on: January 27, 2020, 07:44:00 pm »
Yeah, City dot have an influence in the team that they 'randomly' draw. Has there ever been a team in history that have had the run of draws they've had?

Considering we just drew against 16th placed League one Shrewsbury and now stand a pretty good chance of getting knocked out by them going by the team we’re going to field in the replay, now seems a pretty odd time to be moaning about city getting easy draws.

If we drew Wednesday away it would be fucking hard work as we’d likely play a similar team to the one we did yesterday. City will make changes but not to the extent that we do and they’ll probably piss it. Granted they have a bigger/stronger  squad than we do but we could easily field a stronger team whilst still making significant changes.

I’m not moaning about this especially by the way, but it is what it is. If you gave us the draws City got last season I think it’s debatable that we win the trophy as City are clearly taking it more seriously than we are.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #335 on: January 27, 2020, 07:44:56 pm »
Funny how this season was about winning the title in the beginning, not getting a treble.

Great isn't it, what a team.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #336 on: January 27, 2020, 07:45:38 pm »
Really have you not been on this earth the last 30 years, it's Prem 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Next year with a Prem title under our belt we go for everything.

Bingo.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #337 on: January 27, 2020, 07:46:26 pm »
The title is done. Come March we’ll be resting people in the league to save them for the champions league. See absolutely no idea why we can’t go for all 3

No it isn't done, we still have to win a number of games before it becomes a certainty. Until that moment, it's not official which is why don't need distractions for now.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #338 on: January 27, 2020, 07:47:12 pm »
If we beat Chelsea we'd get United in the quarters, Spurs in the semi and then City in the final who have beaten EFL teams the whole way to get there.

Hardly worth it.

Just make sure we win the league ffs. See what happens in Europe.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #339 on: January 27, 2020, 07:48:05 pm »

If we can get past Shrewsbury then I reckon we could certainly nick a draw away to Chelsea then hopefully get past them in the replay.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #340 on: January 27, 2020, 07:48:42 pm »
Not asking you to trust me, I'm sure you're old enough and clever enough to form your own opinion.

Everton came during a tough period, no complaints with that team or the one fielded yesterday.  We're good enough to win all 3 competitions, surprised some think we would struggle considering our current position.

You're forward projecting our current level of performance as if it'll last the whole season through to playing a CL final against Bayern/PSG/City whoever in May if we play all the possible remaining games with our first team squad... clearly Klopp doesn't think its possible for the players to do that?

(bare in mind we're posting a few days after one of our fittest and most important players went down with an in game muscle / hamstring injury)
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #341 on: January 27, 2020, 07:49:12 pm »
No replays round 5 onwards

Well thats rubbish. What about the respecting the FA cup? The fans and the players love it.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #342 on: January 27, 2020, 07:49:48 pm »
Think whether we go realistically for the FA cup will depend on how far ahead we are in a months time providing the kids can beat Shrewsbury which they are well capable of at home . Being 19 points ahead at that stage and we could start making the choice whether we want to have a go at being undefeated in the league or rest a few in the prem then a strong side at Chelsea .

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #343 on: January 27, 2020, 07:50:03 pm »
Well thats rubbish. What about the respecting the FA cup? The fans and the players love it.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #344 on: January 27, 2020, 07:52:23 pm »
You're forward projecting our current level of performance as if it'll last the whole season through to playing a CL final against Bayern/PSG/City whoever in May if we play all the possible remaining games with our firs team ... clearly Klopp doesn't think its possible for the players to do that?

(bare in mind we're posting a few days after one of our fittest and most important players went down with an in game muscle / hamstring injury)

And he'd be right. Look at the performance yesterday. We've got no real cover down the left side at all. I wouldn't really want to be playing near enough our best team at Stamford Bridge for a midweek Fa Cup fifth round tie and they'd be full strength. There's limits to what we can ask out of the XI who played at Wolves.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #345 on: January 27, 2020, 07:52:27 pm »
You're forward projecting our current level of performance as if it'll last the whole season through to playing a CL final against Bayern/PSG/City whoever in May if we play all the possible remaining games with our firs team ... clearly Klopp doesn't think its possible for the players to do that?

(bare in mind we're posting a few days after one of our fittest and most important players went down with an in game muscle / hamstring injury)

I'm not suggesting we play the first team Jack, I said we could win all 3 competitions with the squad we have. If we pick up injuries then we obviously prioritise the League then the CL.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #346 on: January 27, 2020, 07:52:40 pm »
Well thats rubbish. What about the respecting the FA cup? The fans and the players love it.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #347 on: January 27, 2020, 07:52:51 pm »
Well thats rubbish. What about the respecting the FA cup? The fans and the players love it.

Bingo. Just sack off replays from.the competition. Problem solved (next year).
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #348 on: January 27, 2020, 07:53:22 pm »
Another big pay day for Shrewsbury if they KO us!! They probably deserve it based on yesterday’s performance.

Ill still be going the match next week hoping we do it but i won’t be massively disappointed if we get beat as the league is the clear priority!! The treble is far too much of an ask

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #349 on: January 27, 2020, 07:54:10 pm »
Not asking you to trust me, I'm sure you're old enough and clever enough to form your own opinion.

Everton came during a tough period, no complaints with that team or the one fielded yesterday.  We're good enough to win all 3 competitions, surprised some think we would struggle considering our current position.
I guarantee Klopp and the club had three competitions written down at the start of the season Prem, champions league and World club Cup. FA and league Cup would have been set aside for youngsters and giving players game time, it was a great plan.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #350 on: January 27, 2020, 07:54:39 pm »
I'm not suggesting we play the first team Jack, I said we could win all 3 competitions with the squad we have. If we pick up injuries then we obviously prioritise the League then the CL.

Its cumulative fatigue he's worried about not just injuries. You only have to look at the end to the 16/17 season or 17/18 season to see why he's so concerned about it

I think he thinks there's a real chance of doing the league / CL double and he's going to make choices based on that.... oh and that plus wanting to defend the league next year. It's an admirable refusal not to think short term and run his players into the ground imo. 

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #351 on: January 27, 2020, 07:55:02 pm »
I guarantee Klopp and the club had three competitions written down at the start of the season Prem, champions league and World club Cup. FA and league Cup would have been set aside for youngsters and giving players game time, it was a great plan.

Totally agree and not suggesting otherwise.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #352 on: January 27, 2020, 07:55:07 pm »
I'm not suggesting we play the first team Jack, I said we could win all 3 competitions with the squad we have. If we pick up injuries then we obviously prioritise the League then the CL.

With a lot of luck with draws as well as injuries. I.e. Man City style luck from last season which we clearly haven't got getting Chelsea away next round and then we'd have to beat City at some point and at least one of United/Spurs/Arsenal.

Then three CL ties to win to get to a final. Might be easier if we can beat Atleti and get Atalanta next round rather than draw Man City. 15 league games left which we still need to win around half of.
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #353 on: January 27, 2020, 07:57:12 pm »
I’m pretty on the fence with Klopp’s decision here. If I’m honest I’d rather he just played a team similar to yesterday and we’d likely be in the 5th round, one of my best ever memories in life was being in the ground when Gerrard hit that screamed against West Ham so I’ll always love the FA Cup.

That said, I can understand the logic and I’m not going to bother going into the discussion as it’s been done to death since yesterday.

What I would say is I hope the players have been consulted before this decision was made. It’s easy to make an argument for the players being happy with this choice, for the obvious reason that they get a week off when they otherwise wouldn’t, however you can envisage a situation where the kind of driven professionals that we have in our side are itching to win a treble and will see this as an opportunity taken away from them. You’d therefore hope, and to be honest I’d expect this has happened, that real clear and consistent dialogue has been undertaken with the players as you don’t want a situation where a lot of players are pissed off with the manager, or thinking he’s making a point to the detriment of the club as it’s easy to see how that kind of situation escalates and that usually takes it’s toll on the pitch.


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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #354 on: January 27, 2020, 07:57:37 pm »
Its cumulative fatigue he's worried about not just injuries. You only have to look at the end to the 16/17 season or 17/18 season to see why he's so concerned about it

I think he thinks there's a real chance of doing the league / CL double and he's going to make choices based on that.... oh and that plus wanting to defend the league next year. It's an admirable refusal not to think short term and run his players into the ground imo. 

I think maybe we're getting our wires crossed. I've said several times now that we should prioritise The League and CL whilst selecting youngsters and fringe players for the cup. 

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #355 on: January 27, 2020, 07:58:14 pm »
The title is done. Come March we’ll be resting people in the league to save them for the champions league. See absolutely no idea why we can’t go for all 3

The title is most certainly not done. We need 27 more points out of the remaining 45 on offer. City have Laporte back and we should know from very recent history how they can go on a mad run.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #356 on: January 27, 2020, 07:58:33 pm »
I think maybe we're getting our wires crossed. I've said several times now that we should prioritise The League and CL whilst selecting youngsters and fringe players for the cup. 

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #357 on: January 27, 2020, 07:59:18 pm »
Damn right! They should bring back the strategy of old days in Europe when in the event of two draws a third game is played on a neutral venue.

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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #358 on: January 27, 2020, 08:00:58 pm »
The title is most certainly not done. We need 27 more points out of the remaining 45 on offer. City have Laporte back and we should know from very recent history how they can go on a mad run.
Oh, for fucks sake, City are going to win every fucking game now that Laporte is back... Get a grip. The title is not mathematically done, but it's practically done. To not win the title is possible, but not probable. That would mean that we have to register the worst fuckup in the history of the game. With THIS team!
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Re: FA Cup draw
« Reply #359 on: January 27, 2020, 08:01:08 pm »
I think maybe we're getting our wires crossed. I've said several times now that we should prioritise The League and CL whilst selecting youngsters and fringe players for the cup.

And would that be enough to win at Stamford Bridge against Chelsea's first XI? Or beat Man City?
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