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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9840 on: March 1, 2024, 05:49:16 pm »
When Messi left, half of their support went.  ;D
Together with half their revenue.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9841 on: March 1, 2024, 06:35:59 pm »
Aye, the last few years he was there they basically scrounged for evrey penny they could find to pay his wages.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9842 on: March 1, 2024, 06:36:05 pm »
Thing is I remember they used to be everyones favorite second club around the late 90s and early-mid 2000s. Pretty much anyone who didn't like Real Madrid - which was/is a very sizeable number - would have Barça down as their number two by default. As a kid, a Barça shirt was the only non-LFC shirt I owned (it had Figo on the back, just before he left for Madrid :D)

Who can honestly say that about Barcelona now? Within those 20 years they gained a supreme arrogance and exceptionalism and have acted as indistiguishable from Madrid. OF course, there is a difference between the club hierarchy and the fans. I live here now so I know plenty of sound Barça fans. But even they talk about Liverpool like it was a second-tier club, until I sit them down and remind them we had four European Cups before they'd even won one.

Ultimately, the main thing I've realised, is that football just doesn't mean as much here as it does in Liverpool. It is far less baked into the fabric of daily life. The way they interact with football is also a bit different. It's like they fancy themselves cannoiseurs of fine football. If Barça play well, it's expected rather than something to be excited about  They don't have the songs. And if they play badly, or simply not successfully, you just switch off. Supporting Barça is more of a mandatory extension of a wider Catalan identity, rather than a driver of it.

You can walk through the city during El Clasico and not have a clue it's on (you'd also be surprised by the amount of Real Madrid fans who've been born and raised here). All that said, they do have a great local/barrio club scene here.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9843 on: March 1, 2024, 06:40:42 pm »
Yeah, they underperformed in Europe (including against us!) but I always enjoyed watching that Barca side of Rivaldo, Kluivert, Figo, Luis Enrique and dare I say it, even that bloke with the bouffant in midfield who went bald suspiciously quickly.Cant remember when I last watched them play to be honest - probably the 2nd leg at Anfield!

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9844 on: March 1, 2024, 07:48:33 pm »
I don't always visit Lobster Pot.  But when I do. I sit.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9845 on: March 1, 2024, 08:24:16 pm »
Playing at the Boo-Camp
Camp Poo, but accept they're interchangeable.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9846 on: March 1, 2024, 08:39:38 pm »
Camp Poo, but accept they're interchangeable.

I guess that makes Everton the Bloo-Poo then.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9847 on: March 1, 2024, 09:41:17 pm »
Apparently they're talking to Bobby Brown Shoes about the vacant manager's job.

I don't think there's ever been anyone in football who's failed upwards more consistently than Martinez. You could make an argument that he peaked with Wigan winning the FA cup, then failed everywhere else, getting big payoffs and cushy gigs everywhere after that.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9848 on: March 1, 2024, 10:05:31 pm »
Apparently they're talking to Bobby Brown Shoes about the vacant manager's job.

I don't think there's ever been anyone in football who's failed upwards more consistently than Martinez. You could make an argument that he peaked with Wigan winning the FA cup, then failed everywhere else, getting big payoffs and cushy gigs everywhere after that.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9849 on: March 1, 2024, 10:09:43 pm »
Apparently they're talking to Bobby Brown Shoes about the vacant manager's job.

I don't think there's ever been anyone in football who's failed upwards more consistently than Martinez. You could make an argument that he peaked with Wigan winning the FA cup, then failed everywhere else, getting big payoffs and cushy gigs everywhere after that.

He's like Hodgson, only he's actually won something important.

Everything started to go wrong with him. Inherited a strong side from Moyes, but once the solidity Moyes had drilled into them petered out, Martinez didn't seem to have an answer. That's when everything started to slowly unravel, and it's only picked up speed since then.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9850 on: March 2, 2024, 07:21:57 am »
Thing is I remember they used to be everyones favorite second club around the late 90s and early-mid 2000s. Pretty much anyone who didn't like Real Madrid - which was/is a very sizeable number - would have Barça down as their number two by default. As a kid, a Barça shirt was the only non-LFC shirt I owned (it had Figo on the back, just before he left for Madrid :D)

Who can honestly say that about Barcelona now? Within those 20 years they gained a supreme arrogance and exceptionalism and have acted as indistiguishable from Madrid. OF course, there is a difference between the club hierarchy and the fans. I live here now so I know plenty of sound Barça fans. But even they talk about Liverpool like it was a second-tier club, until I sit them down and remind them we had four European Cups before they'd even won one.

Ultimately, the main thing I've realised, is that football just doesn't mean as much here as it does in Liverpool. It is far less baked into the fabric of daily life. The way they interact with football is also a bit different. It's like they fancy themselves cannoiseurs of fine football. If Barça play well, it's expected rather than something to be excited about  They don't have the songs. And if they play badly, or simply not successfully, you just switch off. Supporting Barça is more of a mandatory extension of a wider Catalan identity, rather than a driver of it.

You can walk through the city during El Clasico and not have a clue it's on (you'd also be surprised by the amount of Real Madrid fans who've been born and raised here). All that said, they do have a great local/barrio club scene here.

Excuse my ignorance.   What’s a Barrio Club!?

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9851 on: March 2, 2024, 10:03:11 am »
Barrios is a kind of slum district I think?

EDIT: just checked. It means "neighbourhood"
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9852 on: March 2, 2024, 07:12:48 pm »
Exactly yeah, neighbourhood teams! A lot of the neighbourhoods here have really strong identities, including their own neighbourhood flags and festivals and generally strong sense of community. It's one of the best things about living here for me. Likewise, a lot of them have football clubs, including some pretty big ones.

I went to see this derby the other week between Sant Andreu and CE Europa: https://footballhost.com/blogs/experiences/sant-andreu-vs-europa-el-clasico-de-barcelona

€10 in, with a sell out crowd of 6,500. Both in the 5th tier of the Spanish Leagues, with one of them (CE Europa) being one of the ten founding members of La Liga.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9853 on: March 2, 2024, 07:43:07 pm »
Whatever happened to Xxavi? Did he join Cantona on his ski trip?
I’ve plenty links to the clubs playing and backroom staff as many on here know thank you very much. Fair enough, I admire your optimism. But you’re absolute ostriches if you think this squad, even with 2 or 3 new, “cut price” players with potential get us anywhere close

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9854 on: March 3, 2024, 10:21:31 am »

'[Official] FC Barcelona has restored the legend status of convicted rapist Dani Alves: "His extrovert personality makes him a firm favourite among Barca fans"':-

www.fcbarcelona.com/en/card/648012/daniel-alves-da-silva-dani-alves

^ from https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1b5dn7m/official_fc_barcelona_has_restored_the_legend


Wow.  :no  c*nts.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9855 on: March 3, 2024, 05:08:12 pm »
'[Official] FC Barcelona has restored the legend status of convicted rapist Dani Alves: "His extrovert personality makes him a firm favourite among Barca fans"':-

www.fcbarcelona.com/en/card/648012/daniel-alves-da-silva-dani-alves

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Wow.  :no  c*nts.
They really are a c*nt of a club from top to bottom, there's no redeeming features.

Dread to imagine some of the weird conspiracy theories some of their small minded woe is me/inferiority complex-ridden nationalists will have constructed

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9856 on: March 4, 2024, 07:39:26 am »
Looks like Pedri has got another long-term injury.

He's only made 12 starts this season, despicable by them how much they overplayed him in his late Teens, couple of seasons ago he played over 70 games for Club and Country.

Gavi also been out all season with a ACL, two absolute midfield gems to build around for the next 15 years and they recklessly overplayed them.

Ansu Fati you could say the same for him, young and overplayed and littered with a injury record so young.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9857 on: March 4, 2024, 09:34:46 am »
They really are a c*nt of a club from top to bottom, there's no redeeming features.

Dread to imagine some of the weird conspiracy theories some of their small minded woe is me/inferiority complex-ridden nationalists will have constructed

This is a bit of a niche, very geeky, analogy but they're like Luthen Rael from Andor.

They've spent decades competing with Real Madrid, and it's corrupted them horribly. They're in trouble for interfering with refs becausee, in their minds, they're trying to level the playing field and get something like an even shake on decisions. Probably the same thing Pep told himself when he was popping pills, "Real are on them, so we have to take them to even things out"

Meanwhile the two of them have absolutely crushed the life out of almost every other club in the league. Under Simeone, Atletico have had to develop a system of "dark arts" to get around the officials just to occasionally challenge.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9858 on: March 4, 2024, 09:42:59 am »
I don't rate Gavi, every time I've watched him he's just run around kicking people, but Pedri has been brilliant.  Big loss.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9859 on: March 20, 2024, 01:45:49 pm »

'Dani Alves: Ex-Brazil player to be freed on €1m bail after rape conviction':-

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68616200


'A Spanish court has ruled that ex-Barcelona and Brazil footballer Dani Alves can be conditionally released from jail after serving about a quarter of his sentence for rape.

Alves, who was sentenced to four and a half years in prison last month, will be released on a €1m (£853,000) bail.

He had been held in pre-trial detention since January 2023.

The 40-year-old was found guilty of raping a woman in a Barcelona nightclub in December 2022.

The victim's lawyer called the decision "a scandal".'


more in the linked article above.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9860 on: March 20, 2024, 01:54:18 pm »
'Dani Alves: Ex-Brazil player to be freed on €1m bail after rape conviction':-

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68616200


'A Spanish court has ruled that ex-Barcelona and Brazil footballer Dani Alves can be conditionally released from jail after serving about a quarter of his sentence for rape.

Alves, who was sentenced to four and a half years in prison last month, will be released on a €1m (£853,000) bail.

He had been held in pre-trial detention since January 2023.

The 40-year-old was found guilty of raping a woman in a Barcelona nightclub in December 2022.

The victim's lawyer called the decision "a scandal".'


more in the linked article above.

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So if you're a rich multi millionaire, you can commit any heinous crime and buy yourself freedom?
This fucking stinks.

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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9861 on: March 20, 2024, 02:22:51 pm »
So if you're a rich multi millionaire, you can commit any heinous crime and buy yourself freedom?
This fucking stinks.
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Re: FC Barcelona
« Reply #9862 on: April 18, 2024, 08:33:21 pm »
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Barcelona were fined €25,000 ($26,600) by UEFA on Thursday for Nazi salutes and racist gestures by fans at a Champions League game against Paris Saint-Germain last week. UEFA said the proven charge of "racist behavior" followed images circulating of misconduct by some fans at Parc des Princes on April 10.

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