Author Topic: Neco Williams Appreciation thread (Read 111459 times)

Linudden · « **Reply #80 on:** January 6, 2020, 03:35:32 am »

Quote from: BobPaisley3 on January 5, 2020, 09:05:59 pm

Earlier in the season Milner and even Hendo got the nod at right back when Trent was out. I’d be surprised if Nico doesn’t play next time Trent’s missing.

Depends on who's available. If Matip and/or Lovren are available along with the current starting CB pairing, I see no way in which Gomez wouldn't be the first-choice cover for either full back to this moment. It's not his natural position, but he shuts either wing down completely at the back when he plays there.

Williams will get U23 and FA Cup gametime for sure, but in the league, while he could do a job, so long as the league is at stake Klopp will always go for experience for the big trophy.

He'll probably be in the matchday squad until both Matip and Lovren are back, which is not bad in its own right, but it's unrealistic to suggest that he's ahead of Gomez or Milner in the fullback coverage for the prioritized competitions.

Bolrick · « **Reply #81 on:** January 6, 2020, 03:38:21 am »

Although he looked very good.....i reckon its our system that makes our fullbacks perform like worldbeaters. With any other manager, they will not be getting the kudos.

Even Larouci played like a seasoned leftback when he came on.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #82 on:** January 6, 2020, 08:38:36 am »

Quote from: Bolrick on January 6, 2020, 03:38:21 am

Although he looked very good.....i reckon its our system that makes our fullbacks perform like worldbeaters. With any other manager, they will not be getting the kudos.

Even Larouci played like a seasoned leftback when he came on.

Not sure that's true. We've played some guys at full back during Klopp's time that never looked any good. Moreno, Brad Smith, Randall etc.

.adam · « **Reply #83 on:** January 6, 2020, 08:45:57 am »

Quote from: Bolrick on January 6, 2020, 03:38:21 am

Even Larouci played like a seasoned leftback when he came on.

Not sure i agree with this. Larouci was positionally all over the place - Joe Gomez regularly had to come across to bail him out.

LovelyCushionedHeader · « **Reply #84 on:** January 6, 2020, 08:47:58 am »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on January 6, 2020, 08:38:36 am

Not sure that's true. We've played some guys at full back during Klopp's time that never looked any good. Moreno, Brad Smith, Randall etc.

Oh for the days of 15/16 when we resting players for the Europa League and playing Randall, Smith and Stewart. Three worse youth "prospects" you will not find.

PoetryInMotion · « **Reply #85 on:** January 6, 2020, 09:36:19 am »

Quote from: .adam on January 6, 2020, 08:45:57 am

Not sure i agree with this. Larouci was positionally all over the place - Joe Gomez regularly had to come across to bail him out.

No, Jurgen himself praised Larouci. He struggled a bit in the first half, but in the second half he was brilliant. His linkup play on the left was amazing and he also got back positionally during counters. In the first half Williams was better, but in the second half I think Larouci was better, so both had really good games.

kloppismydad · « **Reply #86 on:** January 6, 2020, 09:46:20 am »

Quote from: LovelyCushionedHeader on January 6, 2020, 08:47:58 am

Oh for the days of 15/16 when we resting players for the Europa League and playing Randall, Smith and Stewart. Three worse youth "prospects" you will not find.

Bit harsh on Kevin Stewart considering he was basically swapped for the best LB in the world.

SerbianScouser · « **Reply #87 on:** January 6, 2020, 10:19:50 am »

If he keeps progressing like this we'll have to move Trent to midfield. Whoops.

the_red_pill · « **Reply #88 on:** January 6, 2020, 10:38:13 am »

Quote from: Bolrick on January 6, 2020, 03:38:21 am

Although he looked very good.....i reckon its our system that makes our fullbacks perform like worldbeaters. With any other manager, they will not be getting the kudos.

Even Larouci played like a seasoned leftback when he came on.

Klopp has said in the past that we like to have the Academy and ressies "shadow" the first team's positions. "Create shadows" as he put it.
He said this for instance about Trent after the 4-0 over Leicester:

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“We are trying to create our own one in the shadows a little bit of these boys, Neco Williams for example who looks pretty promising.

And this after yesterday(alludes to the system I suppose):

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I like that the boys used all our patterns tonight to cause Everton problems. It was brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

That's why you saw Neco doing what Trent does, Chiravella doing a Henderson, Jones shadowing Wijnaldum, Larouci shadowing Robertson (as you said- he "played like a seasoned leftback when he came on") - and Robbo is a pure left-back, etc..

Behind the scenes, each of them is being modeled to the player in the first XI that's occupying their position. Not revolutionary, but we, perhaps try to create replicas more than most.

pathetic · « **Reply #89 on:** January 6, 2020, 10:40:13 am »

Needless to say we have a wonderful manager.

the_red_pill · « **Reply #90 on:** January 6, 2020, 10:49:38 am »

Quote from: pathetic on January 6, 2020, 10:40:13 am

Needless to say we have a wonderful manager.

Indeed.. and human being. A real "mensch". In Ubuntu terms- "I am because we are" and that's apparent in his philosophy.
He transcends football a bit.

christofu · « **Reply #91 on:** January 6, 2020, 01:53:20 pm »

Quote from: Bolrick on January 6, 2020, 03:38:21 am

Although he looked very good.....i reckon its our system that makes our fullbacks perform like worldbeaters. With any other manager, they will not be getting the kudos.

Even Larouci played like a seasoned leftback when he came on.

on the flipside its where our club is at that we are recruiting/identifying and training our youth for the way we want to play. Chances are these players wouldn't have got a look in at most clubs as a 'fullback'. I seem to recall like trent (and a few others throughout the youth system) Larouci played further forward before being converted...

MJD-L4 · « **Reply #92 on:** January 6, 2020, 02:33:50 pm »

An exciting time for both Liverpool & Wales with kids like young Neco coming though

Coolie High · « **Reply #93 on:** January 6, 2020, 06:23:47 pm »

Quote from: Bolrick on January 6, 2020, 03:38:21 am

Although he looked very good.....i reckon its our system that makes our fullbacks perform like worldbeaters. With any other manager, they will not be getting the kudos.

Even Larouci played like a seasoned leftback when he came on.

Or some of these guys are just big talents to go with the coaching they’ve received all the way from youth to now, Gerard gave Neco Williams his debut at 15 for his u18’s if I recall, and he made Curtis Jones his main player in his side(who wouldn’t)?

rebel23 · « **Reply #94 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:02:05 pm »

Stuart Pearce gave him MOTM. He said it was close between him and Jones but Jim Proudfoot (the commentator) gave it to him because he contributed to the goal.

Hoenheim · « **Reply #95 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:11:21 pm »

Should have scored from Elliott's pass, but even with the misses he was great, bombed forward scaring the crap out of Shrewsbury.

tubby · « **Reply #96 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:16:45 pm »

He looks so accomplished already, really impressed with his showings this season.

rhysd · « **Reply #97 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:18:12 pm »

I can't see why Neco can't be our cover at right back, he's looked an amazing talent in every 1st team game he's played now.

Of course he has lots to learn, but looks a player to me.

Fantastic to see talent like this coming through. Makes me all warm inside.

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #98 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:19:37 pm »

I’d like to see him in central midfield.

The Final Third · « **Reply #99 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:19:51 pm »

Samie · « **Reply #100 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:20:16 pm »

He's going to be our backup Right Back in the first team squad next season.

RobbieRedman · « **Reply #101 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:20:57 pm »

Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on February 4, 2020, 10:19:37 pm

I’d like to see him in central midfield.

Needs to defend better like Wan Bissaka

hesbighesred · « **Reply #102 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:21:56 pm »

Got caught on the ball a couple of times - which looked like they could have been fouls - but really liked like a senior player out there. Dominant performance from a lad who's developed extraordinarily this past year.

rebel23 · « **Reply #103 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:23:32 pm »

Quote from: Samie on February 4, 2020, 10:20:16 pm

He's going to be our backup Right Back in the first team squad next season.

I agree. TAA can't play every game...well it seems he does at the moment but I see no reason why he can't be rested for Neco...

Raid · « **Reply #104 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:26:28 pm »

So impressive. Would have no qualms now about him stepping in for Trent if we needed to rest him, especially with Gomez next to him and Hendo and Fabinho helping on that side if required.

MrGrumpy · « **Reply #105 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:26:29 pm »

When he made the team against Arsenal I was surprised. However, he has taken to senior football well. Made up for the lad.

rebel23 · « **Reply #106 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:27:54 pm »

Neco will hopefully get some more games to assist his development when the title is wrapped up!

farawayred · « **Reply #107 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:28:42 pm »

Neco's progress is almost visible from the first to the second half of the game, with the second being a more mature composure. I don't know if the yellow card had much to do with that, but he was more solid and more attacking at the same time.

newterp · « **Reply #108 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:28:52 pm »

You have to like that - he won the header, raced to keep the ball in, and launched that dangerous diagonal ball!

DelTrotter · « **Reply #109 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:31:24 pm »

Would love to see him start at Chelsea surrounded by some more first teamers and see how he gets on. Would be cool to see him in a defence with Joe and Virg.

Given our lead and only having Bournemouth at home after Chelsea I’m expecting a very strong side.

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #110 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:48:36 pm »

I see his future in midfield.

rebel23 · « **Reply #111 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:49:53 pm »

Quote from: Yorkykopite on February 4, 2020, 10:48:36 pm

I see his future in midfield.

We're well stocked in that area. He would never play. He should shadow TAA who can't play every game.

Yorkykopite · « **Reply #112 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:52:31 pm »

Quote from: rebel23 on February 4, 2020, 10:49:53 pm

We're well stocked in that area. He would never play. He should shadow TAA who can't play every game.

I meant alongside Trent.

Asam · « **Reply #113 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:52:35 pm »

He can play this kid

rebel23 · « **Reply #114 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:54:33 pm »

Quote from: Yorkykopite on February 4, 2020, 10:52:31 pm

I meant alongside Trent.

He would never get a game in the first team.. surely better to play RB and backup Trent. Makes more sense I think.

missis sumner · « **Reply #115 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:56:30 pm »

Quote from: Yorkykopite on February 4, 2020, 10:48:36 pm

I see his future in midfield.

Fordy · « **Reply #116 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:57:53 pm »

Giggs he needs to go to the Euro's. This is one talented player.

MD1990 · « **Reply #117 on:** February 4, 2020, 10:58:29 pm »

He should save us 20-30m on a back up RB

Dim Glas · « **Reply #118 on:** February 4, 2020, 11:03:13 pm »

He'll have a decent chance at that Wales squad for the Euros the way he's going.

rebel23 · « **Reply #119 on:** February 4, 2020, 11:07:46 pm »

Serious question: Does Neco get an assist for the OG?