Topic: The DNC, Democrats and Wild Baseless Extrapolation of Election Results

[Derzyjudek]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/news.avclub.com/newsweek-s-kurt-eichenwald-was-just-looking-at-tentacle-1798263101/amp

It's an incredible story made even better by Eichenwald corncobbing himself

Ah right ok, he was just trying to prove to his wife that it exists. ....of course.

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Ah right ok, he was just trying to prove to his wife that it exists. ....of course.

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There's more uncomfortable allegations about a story he did on child porn but it's unpleasant to read about and potentially libellous for this site, so if you're interested it's all out there by reputable news organizations.

[Derzyjudek]

There's more uncomfortable allegations about a story he did on child porn but it's unpleasant to read about and potentially libellous for this site, so if you're interested it's all out there by reputable news organizations.

He really sounds like a guy who's opinion we should take seriously.

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[Lush is the best medicine...]

Yes attack the messenger to protect saint Bernie

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Yes attack the messenger to protect saint Bernie

1) it was an opinion piece, so the writer is fair game.

2) you were attacking BernieBros voting for Stein when you brought up squidporn guy, so how is it defending Bernie? Stick to your own script.

[Romeo Sensini]

The idea that everyone who voted for Stein was just an angry BernieBro is a liberal talking point put out there by Hillary supporters like Kurt fucking Eichenwald trying to let Hillary off for being a shitty candidate who ran a shitty campaign.

She gained more than almost 1 millions votes from her 2012 run. Over a 300% increase. There were no shortage of fuming Bernie loyalists that voted for her. Plenty voiced it or threatened it.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

1) it was an opinion piece, so the writer is fair game.

2) you were attacking BernieBros voting for Stein when you brought up squidporn guy, so how is it defending Bernie? Stick to your own script.

and you wonder why the world doesn’t think like you... the funny thing with your arrogance is that you actually think he could have won when he got smashed by Hillary, no answer whatsoever for the 3m+ vote loss, just slag off the dnc for not bending over backwards to help the lifelong independent over the lifelong Democrat

But keep bitching mate, helps the GOP even with the fuckwit in charge

[Lush is the best medicine...]

She gained more than almost 1 millions votes from her 2012 run. Over a 300% increase. There were no shortage of fuming Bernie loyalists that voted for her. Plenty voiced it or threatened it.

and of course with stein there’s that pic of her on the same table as Flynn and put in, but no doubt that was fine...

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and you wonder why the world doesn’t think like you... the funny thing with your arrogance is that you actually think he could have won when he got smashed by Hillary, no answer whatsoever for the 3m+ vote loss, just slag off the dnc for not bending over backwards to help the lifelong independent over the lifelong Democrat

But keep bitching mate, helps the GOP even with the fuckwit in charge

Pointing out that you can't even stick to your own talking points isn't arrogance. I'm sorry that one reply got you so confused you forgot whether you were attacking one socialist or many socialists but it's not up to me to babysit you in your own argument.

But keep punching left, it's what centrists are best at.

[Something Worse]

She gained more than almost 1 millions votes from her 2012 run. Over a 300% increase. There were no shortage of fuming Bernie loyalists that voted for her. Plenty voiced it or threatened it.

Everyone loves Nate Silver, right?

" I don’t really buy it. And the rub is Pennsylvania, which was close but not that close. You have to assume that almost all of Stein’s voters would have gone to Clinton. But both pre-election polls and the national exit poll suggests that a lot of them wouldn’t have voted at all, if they’d been forced to pick between the two major candidates. The breakdown might have been something like 35 percent Clinton, 10 percent Trump and 55 percent wouldn’t vote. That doesn’t wind up netting very many votes for HRC"

[Romeo Sensini]

Everyone loves Nate Silver, right?

" I don’t really buy it. And the rub is Pennsylvania, which was close but not that close. You have to assume that almost all of Stein’s voters would have gone to Clinton. But both pre-election polls and the national exit poll suggests that a lot of them wouldn’t have voted at all, if they’d been forced to pick between the two major candidates. The breakdown might have been something like 35 percent Clinton, 10 percent Trump and 55 percent wouldn’t vote. That doesn’t wind up netting very many votes for HRC"

That isn't the point I am making or what you suggested. You said that "The idea that everyone who voted for Stein was just an angry BernieBro is a liberal talking point put out there by Hillary supporters "

I am wondering and suggesting where those Stein votes came from.

[Something Worse]

That isn't the point I am making or what you suggested. You said that "The idea that everyone who voted for Stein was just an angry BernieBro is a liberal talking point put out there by Hillary supporters "

I am wondering and suggesting where those Stein votes came from.

The suggestion being that all 1 million of those extra voters were angry BernieBros?

[goalrushatgoodison]

The suggestion being that all 1 million of those extra voters were angry BernieBros?

Sorry to butt in, but the polling that indicated 55% of those who voted for Stein wouldn't have voted at all if the choice was between Clinton and Trump, doesn't preclude that 55% from been Sander's supporters. It doesn't mean they are either. In fact the observation is vitually pointless. I'd say a lot more Sander's supporters didn't vote at all than supported Stein.

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Sorry to butt in, but the polling that indicated 55% of those who voted for Stein wouldn't have voted at all if the choice was between Clinton and Trump, doesn't preclude that 55% from been Sander's supporters. It doesn't mean they are either. In fact the observation is vitually pointless. I'd say a lot more Sander's supporters didn't vote at all than supported Stein.

It's talking about Stein voters and where they would go if Stein didn't exist. The point is that Stein didn't "steal" a significant number of votes from Clinton, BernieBro or otherwise.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Pointing out that you can't even stick to your own talking points isn't arrogance. I'm sorry that one reply got you so confused you forgot whether you were attacking one socialist or many socialists but it's not up to me to babysit you in your own argument.

But keep punching left, it's what centrists are best at.

so once again avoid the points raised and spouting the usual bollocks to avoid it.

BTW here’s politifact on the nuclear waste thing, but I’m sure you’ll call them all nonces for posting an uncomfortable truth about his holiness

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/sep/22/fact-checking-viral-graphic-critical-bernie-sander/

In 1998, the House of Representatives approved a compact struck between Texas, Vermont and Maine that would allow Vermont and Maine to dump low-level nuclear waste at a designated site in Sierra Blanca, Texas. Sanders, at the time representing Vermont in the House, cosponsored the bill and actively ushered it through Congress.

Located about 16 miles from the Mexican border, Sierra Blanca’s population is predominantly of Mexican ancestry. At the time, the community was about two-thirds Latino, and its residents had an average income of $8,000, according to the an article in the Bangor Daily News.

The low-level nuclear waste would include "items such as scrap metal and worker’s gloves… as well as medical gloves used in radiation treatments at hospitals," according to the Bangor Daily News. Clinton, then the First Lady, did not have a vote on the matter.

And here’s a link to the bill in question, so good luck trying to dig out of this one

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/105/hr629/details

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so once again avoid the points raised and spouting the usual bollocks to avoid it.

BTW here’s politifact on the nuclear waste thing, but I’m sure you’ll call them all nonces for posting an uncomfortable truth about his holiness

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/sep/22/fact-checking-viral-graphic-critical-bernie-sander/

And here’s a link to the bill in question, so good luck trying to dig out of this one

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/105/hr629/details

Why are you changing subject again? Stick to your own script!

[goalrushatgoodison]

It's talking about Stein voters and where they would go if Stein didn't exist. The point is that Stein didn't "steal" a significant number of votes from Clinton, BernieBro or otherwise.

I understand it's talking about where Stein's votes would have gone. You are using it to suggest that those additional Votes, from 2012, for Stein didn't come from Bernie supporters. It doesn't indicate that one way or another.

 

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Why are you changing subject again? Stick to your own script!

lol this must really be hurting you, must be worse than finding out Santa isn’t real

[Something Worse]

I understand it's talking about where Stein's votes would have gone. You are using it to suggest that those additional Votes, from 2012, for Stein didn't come from Bernie supporters. It doesn't indicate that one way or another.

No, I'm saying that Stein didn't steal votes from Clinton, because they wouldn't have voted for Clinton anyway. Assuming they were all BernieBros is your prerogative but if they didn't vote for Stein it wouldn't have made a difference, because they weren't voting for Hillary anyway. Two polls suggest that either 6 or 12% of Bernie voters voted for Trump, which is significantly less than the 25% of Hillary voters that went for McCain in 2008.

lol this must really be hurting you, must be worse than finding out Santa isn’t real

1) There is nothing you know about Bernie that I didn't know already

2) Bernie is the best option, that doesn't make him perfect

3) Are you giving up on your BernieBro attacks to just attacking the man himself? What is it about socialists and leftists that you hate so much?

[Lush is the best medicine...]

2) Bernie is the best option

keep smoking that shit lad

[Alan_X]

Well that was a waste of time.

Locked.