Topic: Chasing the Title

[El Lobo]

I disagree.

We do need to win.

Draws aren't good enough at this stage of the season and we need to maintain our lead for as long as we can. Plus it'll help our confidence.

Same sort of nonsense that we saw ‘last time’, with respect. If we’d taken a draw against Chelsea I dare say we’d have won the league and we wouldn’t have fans now shitting their pants when City or fucking Spurs win a game.

[El Lobo]

No, they'll sit back and counter down the flanks and look to exploit any nerves at set pieces.

They did that against Spurs didn’t they? Spurs should have won really, just not clinical enough. Should really have been two points behind, ouch

[Barneylfc∗]

We need to ignore City for now, just concentrate on ourselves. I know some were in favour of losing in the CL, but I think its important we try and win those games too, we need momentum to do that, the CL will help us regain that. Then as you say its down to us.

Really? The mind fucking boggles.

Look at our pathetic surrender in the FA Cup and people being delighted City got to the League Cup final and progress in the FA Cup. They've got byes in those games and it has meant absolutely fuck all. Same as Chelsea getting to the European Cup semi final in 2014 when people were delighted. Again, meant fuck all.

[Jon2lfc]

Let me know when it's not in our own hands

Ta

[vagabond]

Really? The mind fucking boggles.

Look at our pathetic surrender in the FA Cup and people being delighted City got to the League Cup final and progress in the FA Cup. They've got byes in those games and it has meant absolutely fuck all.

But we don't know that yet. The time off between games previously and now coming up may make the difference in terms of tactical preparation and fitness come the final two months.

[RK7]

There is no way they are going sit back at OT, he's already stated that United are an attacking team I would be amazed if he did that, I would still back us to get a result though even if he did.

You seem certain of most things...anyway, should be a good challenge for both clubs. Can't wait.

[jillcwhomever]

You seem certain of most things...anyway, should be a good challenge for both clubs. Can't wait.

Based entirely on what he has actually said, I might add.

[stonecold_jpm]

I’d love a CL quarter final repeat with City, would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons and test their involvement in every competition! I’d 100% back us again too! 😀😀

[Caligula?]

1 draw and 11 wins is good enough. That's assuming a side that have lost 3 in their last 10 go on to win their next 11

You're also assuming a side that has drawn 2 and lost 1 in their last 10 also goes on to win 11 of their next 12. I'm not saying City won't drop any points, but we may as well. I think people saying we need to beat United are saying it in the context of things. Yes, a draw will keep us top. But there will be absolutely no room for error. Can we really just flick a switch and go on an 11 game winning streak if we fail to beat United, given the recent draws we have had as well?

[Red-Soldier]

Same sort of nonsense that we saw ‘last time’, with respect. If we’d taken a draw against Chelsea I dare say we’d have won the league and we wouldn’t have fans now shitting their pants when City or fucking Spurs win a game.

That was just a bit of rotten luck with the slip. nothing you could do about that.

I'm not shitting my pants as you call it.  Winning at OT would be massive, for obvious reason and also help to build momentum.  We've stuttered for three games, but are still three points clear (if we win).  It's massive to maintain that lead at this stage and keeps the pressure on them.

Like I said, if we keep winning, there isn't anything they can do about it. 12 cup finals from now til the end of the season.

[El Lobo]

That was just a bit of rotten luck with the slip. nothing you could do about that.

I'm not shitting my pants as you call it.  Winning at OT would be massive, for obvious reason and also help to build momentum.  We've stuttered for three games, but are still three points clear (if we win).  It's massive to maintain that lead at this stage and keeps the pressure on them.

Like I said, if we keep winning, there isn't anything they can do about it. 12 cup finals from now til the end of the season.

And if we draw there and then win the remaining, there’s nothing they can do about it.

[Barneylfc∗]

You're also assuming a side that has drawn 2 and lost 1 in their last 10 also goes on to win 11 of their next 12. I'm not saying City won't drop any points, but we may as well. I think people saying we need to beat United are saying it in the context of things. Yes, a draw will keep us top. But there will be absolutely no room for error. Can we really just flick a switch and go on an 11 game winning streak if we fail to beat United, given the recent draws we have had as well?

Simply responding to the comment that "draws aren't good enough"

I do think winning against United is extremely important. More important than not losing. I feel we need to hold on to the margin for error for as long as possible. If we don't win, we have lost that margin for error.

[jillcwhomever]

You're also assuming a side that has drawn 2 and lost 1 in their last 10 also goes on to win 11 of their next 12. I'm not saying City won't drop any points, but we may as well. I think people saying we need to beat United are saying it in the context of things. Yes, a draw will keep us top. But there will be absolutely no room for error. Can we really just flick a switch and go on an 11 game winning streak if we fail to beat United, given the recent draws we have had as well?

None of us actually know what we need to do though. The best thing is to aim to win as many as we can possibly do, but also have some perspective if we end drawing a game. Until the end of the season we just won't know. City have an awful lot more games to get through than us so in that context anything could still happen.

[toe punt]

11 wins and a draw from 12 is a big ask. We're looking at a run of 2014 proportions albeit we're a better side now. I think we need City to fuck up at least twice along the line to give us some leeway. I can't see it happening in their next three so it's down to the other Mancs to do us an unlikely favour. Beating that shower ourselves would be massive but if we were to lose that one no doubt there will be a lot of bed wetting and handing City the title when in reality we'd only be down on goal difference with 11 to go. We can't be all that bad if we end up in that position when up against one of the most complete squads (arguably the most complete) in PL history. We were never going to run away with it against that lot, so let's hang in there and see where we are with 4/5 to go.

[DelTrotter]

We are going to break their whole shitty City if we win at Old Trafford. Two clubs and two fanbases absolutely broken. It will be beautiful. Hopefully it's officiated properly, that's always by far our biggest problem there, last season we had 3 pens turned down, season before we were brilliant, dominated then got fucked over by an offside goal late on etc etc.

[Greyfox]

12 cup finals from now til the end of the season.

indeed...soooo, let the support do what the support does best at cup finals. Where ever in the world, just fucking be there and support the team.

No negativity...just do our job as supporters - particularly against the Manc shite at OT next

[jillcwhomever]

We are going to break their whole shitty City if we win at Old Trafford. Two clubs and two fanbases absolutely broken. It will be beautiful. Hopefully it's officiated properly, that's always by far our biggest problem there, last season we had 3 pens turned down, season before we were brilliant, dominated then got fucked over by an offside goal late on etc etc.

The freefall coming out of Manchester should we win there would be quite hilarious.... Make it happen Redmen. 

[killer-heels]

We dont need 11 wins from 12 because there is no way City are winning all their games.

[Barneylfc∗]

But we don't know that yet. The time off between games previously and now coming up may make the difference in terms of tactical preparation and fitness come the final two months.

Let's hope you are right, but as it stands, it has meant fuck all and we have dropped 4 league points since going out of the FA Cup.

[Barneylfc∗]

We dont need 11 wins from 12 because there is no way City are winning all their games.

As it stands, we need 11 and a draw to be certain. Until City drop points, we need to win all our games and draw 1.

[12Kings]

It’s not exactly surprising this result for them today, Bournemouth beat them 4-0 a few weeks ago!

[Barneylfc∗]

We are going to break their whole shitty City if we win at Old Trafford. Two clubs and two fanbases absolutely broken. It will be beautiful. Hopefully it's officiated properly, that's always by far our biggest problem there, last season we had 3 pens turned down, season before we were brilliant, dominated then got fucked over by an offside goal late on etc etc.

In December 2013 when playing away at Man City, we had a referee from Manchester and we lost due to absolutely diabolical officiating. I wouldn't bet a single penny on that not happening again.

[rob1966]

They’re in with a sniff no doubt about it

They are not overhauling both us and City

[BobPaisley3]

In December 2013 when playing away at Man City, we had a referee from Manchester and we lost due to absolutely diabolical officiating. I wouldn't bet a single penny on that not happening again.

Change the December 2013 to January 2019 and your statement remains valid.

[Nick110581]

It is so difficult to predict how many wins we will need but you would assume at least 8/9.

Beating United would be huge.

[4EverRed]

With 12 games to go I think we’re gonna need 29-30 points to win it. We’ve picked up 29 in our last 12 games. We are more than capable of beating spurs and Chelsea at home with the trickier ties being The Mancs and Bitters away. Would probably take a draw at Old Trafford and take it from there !!! The nerves haven’t stopped all season but I think maybe just maybe we can do it this time. Jurgen has the right mentality to keep the players focused on the job at hand.

Home games
Watford
Burnley
Spurs
Chelsea
Huddersfield
Wolves

Away Games
Mancs
Bitters
Fulham
Southampton
Cardiff
Newcastle


Cities Games
Home 5 ( West Ham, Watford, Cardiff, Spurs Leicester )
Away 6 ( Bournemouth, Mancs, Fulham, Palace, Burnley Brighton)
City have dropped 13 points of their 16 away from home .....

[Barneylfc∗]

They’re in with a sniff no doubt about it

To be in with a sniff, they need to beat

Burnley A
Chelsea A
Arsenal H
Southampton A
Liverpool A
City A
Bournemouth A

Win all their other games, then hope that both City and us lose somewhere else. That simply is not happening.

[jillcwhomever]

It is so difficult to predict how many wins we will need but you would assume at least 8/9.

Beating United would be huge.

Beating United would send out a real statement and ending Solskaer's record would be one of the high points of a great season so far. We are due a win at Old Trafford as well.

[Red_Rich]

Lots of twists and turns left in this yet.  All this talk of winning 11 from 12 etc ..... nah, neither team will do that.  Especially with CL footy coming back in.

One thing IS for certain though .... this race is going down to the wire so anyone hoping for big points gaps can dream on.  Sealing the title with a couple of games to go ain't gonna happen.  It will be in the balance right till the 2nd half of our last game with Wolves.  So strap yourselves in tightly, stop pissing and moaning and get ready for the ride of your lives!

This race is going to be Sky and BT's ultimate wet dream!

[Nick110581]

Beating United would send out a real statement and ending Solskaer's record would be one of the high points of a great season so far. We are due a win at Old Trafford as well.

Just want us to go there and perform with a mindset to win.

[Roady]

Anyone know where we are going for the break?

[BobPaisley3]

Anyone know where we are going for the break?

Tenerife. We always perform well after coming back from hot weather breaks.

[Passmaster Molby]

Tenerife. We always perform well after coming back from hot weather breaks.

Must have been fucking freezing in Dubai

[Red-Soldier]

Lots of twists and turns left in this yet.  All this talk of winning 11 from 12 etc ..... nah, neither team will do that.  Especially with CL footy coming back in.

One thing IS for certain though .... this race is going down to the wire so anyone hoping for big points gaps can dream on.  Sealing the title with a couple of games to go ain't gonna happen.  It will be in the balance right till the 2nd half of our last game with Wolves.  So strap yourselves in tightly, stop pissing and moaning and get ready for the ride of your lives!

This race is going to be Sky and BT's ultimate wet dream!

I agree with that.

[McrRed]

Just a reminder. No talk about X games from greatness please.

[stockdam]

This is the tough end of the season when we’ll have to grind out wins every game. It’s not going to be easy and we must be at the top of our game. Neither City nor Spurs are going to let us win without a fight.

[Andar]

Think the aim has to be to get 95 points. So that's 9 wins and 3 draws. We have to hope City have 4 more dropped points in them which will have them finishing at 94. Pretty sure that will happen on their side, so it comes down to us doing our job and reaching 95.

Let's say we get 2 draws out of United, Chelsea, Everton and Spurs. Then the 3rd draw would be in one of those unexpected games against some average side.

Do our job and the rest hopefully takes care of itself.

[Barneylfc∗]

Think the aim has to be to get 95 points. So that's 9 wins and 3 draws. We have to hope City have 4 more dropped points in them which will have them finishing at 94. Pretty sure that will happen on their side, so it comes down to us doing our job and reaching 95.

Let's say we get 2 draws out of United, Chelsea, Everton and Spurs. Then the 3rd draw would be in one of those unexpected games against some average side.

Do our job and the rest hopefully takes care of itself.

The aim is getting 3 points at Old Trafford. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Lynx the saucy mynx]

This is the tough end of the season when we’ll have to grind out wins every game. It’s not going to be easy and we must be at the top of our game. Neither City nor Spurs are going to let us win without a fight.

After recent results, I'm just glad the fate is still in our hands. There's going to be Gerrard's penalty at Fulham moment as there always is, but I still will be a nervous wreck for the next 3 months. This is the nervous excitement I like.

[Nick110581]

The aim is getting 3 points at Old Trafford. Nothing more, nothing less.

This.