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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57920 on: January 27, 2021, 01:57:45 pm »
A bit arrogant...

Why? Are Madrid and Barca arrogant to think they can take Sevilla or Valencia’s players? Or Bayern thinking they can take Leipzigs players if they wanted?

We’re a bigger club than Arsenal and a much better team. They’re miles off us. On the field and financially.

If Saka turns out to be good, he isn’t going to stay with a team who finish 5th-8th.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57921 on: January 27, 2021, 02:01:00 pm »
Why? Are Madrid and Barca arrogant to think they can take Sevilla or Valencia’s players? Or Bayern thinking they can take Leipzigs players if they wanted?

Yes.  Just because you can do something doesn't mean you're not arrogant about it.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57922 on: January 27, 2021, 02:06:18 pm »
Yes.  Just because you can do something doesn't mean you're not arrogant about it.

Ok I’m arrogant then. Liverpool are a bigger club and when the finances are back to normal we can sign who we want from them.

Personally I don’t see acknowledging reality as arrogant.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57923 on: January 27, 2021, 02:22:13 pm »
If Saka is any good he won’t be at Arsenal in 5 years. So maybe that’s your route back. Selling your few good players when they get good enough for a genuine top team like Liverpool or City.

Things can change a helluva lot in 5 years mate. It was only 7 years ago a certain club bid £40,000,000.01 for Suarez.....and he wanted to go.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57924 on: January 27, 2021, 02:25:40 pm »
Why? Are Madrid and Barca arrogant to think they can take Sevilla or Valencia’s players? Or Bayern thinking they can take Leipzigs players if they wanted?

We’re a bigger club than Arsenal and a much better team. They’re miles off us. On the field and financially.

If Saka turns out to be good, he isn’t going to stay with a team who finish 5th-8th.

Not sure you can afford him to be honest. Might be a bit out of your reach.
But I can see why you'd want him,  head and shoulders above any of your youngsters.

Hed probably want to go to a team that regularly wins titles, not once every 30 years, hed be retired by then. 

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57925 on: January 27, 2021, 02:36:15 pm »
Not sure you can afford him to be honest. Might be a bit out of your reach.
But I can see why you'd want him,  head and shoulders above any of your youngsters.

When Covid finishes and finances go back to normal we can afford him. We’ll not want him though because he’d barely get a kick if our front lads are fit. Arsenal is the best place for him right now. A nice upper mid table team but who are still a relatively big club so he’s used to a little bit of pressure he’d get at Liverpool if we signed him. Although he’d have no experience of competing for the real major honours he’ll still have a little experience of domestic trophies and maybe a Europa League if you are able to qualify.

He is better than our young attackers. Thankfully we don’t need to be carried by or pin all our hopes on kids though because we’ve just got world class players instead. Maybe once Salah and Mane are finished, if Saka has developed a bit, we’ll take him. 

If he wants titles regularly then he’d already have left Arsenal. What age was he when you last won the league? 2 Or 3 years old? Maybe he’ll settle for a team who wins Champions Leagues. We’ve got 2 of those and 2 more finals since you last won a league  ;D
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57926 on: January 27, 2021, 02:38:45 pm »
Not arrogant though.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57927 on: January 27, 2021, 02:40:49 pm »
Not arrogant though.

It’s a joke with a supporter of a rival ffs. Get a grip.

Also, why are you getting arsey about a Liverpool fan on a Liverpool forum being arrogant about how big a club Liverpool are :lmao

Anyway. It was a joke with a rival. They’re shit at the moment, we’ve been great the last few years. Taking the piss is part of the fun of football when you’re good and your rivals aren’t.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57928 on: January 27, 2021, 02:42:45 pm »
Turning our noses up now at the best young wide forward the Premier League has seen since the emergence of Raheem Sterling. Crazy times.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57929 on: January 27, 2021, 02:45:27 pm »
Turning our noses up now at the best young wide forward the Premier League has seen since the emergence of Raheem Sterling. Crazy times.

My word, how serious are some of you lot.

I was taking the piss. It’s a joke with a rival fan. He clearly was having a joke back. Some of you seriously need to lighten up.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57930 on: January 27, 2021, 02:45:57 pm »
Its between him and Foden, hes a year younger,  can play in about 6 positions, and has carried a struggling side at times this season.
Easier when you can strut it around with KDB and Gundogan at 5-0 up.
But it's not just Saka, ESR and Martinelli can be as good, Balogun keeps scoring hat tricks in the youth team. Willock looked ahead of all of them at one stage. There are many players that can be around for years and save us a lot of money.

All opinions at the end of the day but mine is... it's foden. Not even close atm for me, he's ahead of everyone by a stretch and it's not those around him making it so.

As for the £150 mill/ 10 years. I dont see either being a reality, he wont stay 10 years or make you 150 mill. But again that's my opinion

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57931 on: January 27, 2021, 02:46:14 pm »
Also, why are you getting arsey about a Liverpool fan on a Liverpool forum being arrogant about how big a club Liverpool are :lmao

I'm not getting arsey, someone else called you arrogant, not me.  I just backed them up when you claimed you weren't... only for you to now claim you are?
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57932 on: January 27, 2021, 02:55:04 pm »
It’s a joke with a supporter of a rival ffs. Get a grip.

Also, why are you getting arsey about a Liverpool fan on a Liverpool forum being arrogant about how big a club Liverpool are :lmao

Anyway. It was a joke with a rival. They’re shit at the moment, we’ve been great the last few years. Taking the piss is part of the fun of football when you’re good and your rivals aren’t.

Ah, but you don't know our plan. It's called Project A-ha. Odegaard just now, Berge in the summer, Haaland 2022, Champions 2023.  ;D

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57933 on: January 27, 2021, 03:01:29 pm »
Ah, but you don't know our plan. It's called Project A-ha. Odegaard just now, Berge in the summer, Haaland 2022, Champions 2023.  ;D
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57934 on: January 27, 2021, 03:08:04 pm »
It’s a joke with a supporter of a rival ffs. Get a grip.

Also, why are you getting arsey about a Liverpool fan on a Liverpool forum being arrogant about how big a club Liverpool are :lmao

Anyway. It was a joke with a rival. They’re shit at the moment, we’ve been great the last few years. Taking the piss is part of the fun of football when you’re good and your rivals aren’t.

I called what you said arrogant not him, things can quickly change in football as you know who's to say where we are in 5 years there's a chance for one Klopp won't be here. Like another poster said it was only 7 years ago Suarez wanted to leave for Arsenal, 10 years ago United were the best club in the country and so on.

Nothing serious anyways..

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57935 on: January 27, 2021, 03:08:41 pm »
My word, how serious are some of you lot.

I was taking the piss. It’s a joke with a rival fan. He clearly was having a joke back. Some of you seriously need to lighten up.
The subtle, intricate nuance of your humorous post obviously escaped me.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57936 on: January 27, 2021, 03:48:52 pm »
All opinions at the end of the day but mine is... it's foden. Not even close atm for me, he's ahead of everyone by a stretch and it's not those around him making it so.

As for the £150 mill/ 10 years. I dont see either being a reality, he wont stay 10 years or make you 150 mill. But again that's my opinion

What I meant by that is that if he stays 10 years he ll save us 150m worth of players wed have bought for his position. We have scope to save more money with other youngsters coming through. So its not essentially the money theyll make us, but what wed have to spend to fill in areas they are now filling for no cost, and for a very long period of time.
That doesnt mean we dont blow money elsewhere, The Pepe and Willian deals have been disastrous, but we are doing some things right.

Foden is top quality no doubt and its not an outrageous call to say hes the best coming through, but in a struggling team I dont see him doing as well as Saka.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57937 on: January 27, 2021, 03:53:32 pm »
What I meant by that is that if he stays 10 years he ll save us 150m worth of players wed have bought for his position. We have scope to save more money with other youngsters coming through. So its not essentially the money theyll make us, but what wed have to spend to fill in areas they are now filling for no cost, and for a very long period of time.
That doesnt mean we dont blow money elsewhere, The Pepe and Willian deals have been disastrous, but we are doing some things right.

Foden is top quality no doubt and its not an outrageous call to say hes the best coming through, but in a struggling team I dont see him doing as well as Saka.

Just imagine all the Pepes and Willians you'll be able to buy with that! Probably...one.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57938 on: January 27, 2021, 04:04:22 pm »
Ah, but you don't know our plan. It's called Project A-ha. Odegaard just now, Berge in the summer, Haaland 2022, Champions 2023.  ;D

Then I heard you were going to raid Fulham to taaaaake Onomah, take Onomah.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57939 on: January 27, 2021, 04:06:45 pm »
You'll need to be hunting high and low to get Haaland in.

His dad was a decent pro but he seems on another level. I’m only an armchair viewer but while Alf was hit and miss, the son always shines on TV.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57940 on: January 27, 2021, 04:11:15 pm »
His dad was a decent pro but he seems on another level. I’m only an armchair viewer but while Alf was hit and miss, the son always shines on TV.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57941 on: January 27, 2021, 04:15:15 pm »
You'll need to be hunting high and low to get Haaland in.

Then I heard you were going to raid Fulham to taaaaake Onomah, take Onomah.
His dad was a decent pro but he seems on another level. I’m only an armchair viewer but while Alf was hit and miss, the son always shines on TV.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57942 on: January 27, 2021, 08:08:01 pm »
Martin Ødegaard confirms: “I spoke to Arteta before coming here - and it was crucial. That was very important for me and he seems like a top manager and I liked his ideas, the way he sees football and also the way he is”

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57943 on: January 27, 2021, 08:36:15 pm »
Martin Ødegaard confirms: “I spoke to Arteta before coming here - and it was crucial. That was very important for me and he seems like a top manager and I liked his ideas, the way he sees football and also the way he is”

I thought he was an attacking player?
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57944 on: January 27, 2021, 08:45:56 pm »
Martin Ødegaard confirms: “I spoke to Arteta before coming here - and it was crucial. That was very important for me and he seems like a top manager and I liked his ideas, the way he sees football and also the way he is”

Love those media team fed quotes  ;D

Timo Werners about Lampard where equally fantastic.   

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57945 on: January 28, 2021, 08:23:33 am »
Love those media team fed quotes  ;D

Timo Werners about Lampard where equally fantastic.

Yeah they're great. I'm kind of glad we kind of stopped doing it. It was really bad during those years we were languishing around 7th position and every interview with a new signing started with the Istanbul, magic of the Kop, etc. And sure those are all worthy of discussion, but come on there's absolutely no way the likes of Fabio Borini or Charlie Adam thought of those things when they signed.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57946 on: January 28, 2021, 09:24:59 am »
Apart from the City result, a near perfect set of scores this week. Just need you guys to do the business vs Spurs tonight.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57947 on: January 28, 2021, 09:48:49 am »
Would be typical Arsenal to revert back to shite against United at the weekend.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57948 on: January 28, 2021, 10:13:06 am »
Apart from the City result, a near perfect set of scores this week. Just need you guys to do the business vs Spurs tonight.
Hopefully we can do the business tonight and you can Saturday.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57949 on: January 28, 2021, 10:55:42 am »
Would be typical Arsenal to revert back to shite against United at the weekend.

I cant wait. We ll give em a good kicking.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57950 on: January 28, 2021, 10:57:32 am »
Would be typical Arsenal to revert back to shite against United at the weekend.

Maybe. We've actually got a decent record against them recently, 3 wins & 2 draws in the last 5, Arteta 2 for 2 vs Ole, we're 5 wins & a draw in 6, they've just been beat by the bottom of the league at home, so we shouldn't have a mental issue against them, that's for sure.

Think a lot will depend who we have fit. Our fitness doubts are our most important players, Tierney, Partey, ESR, & Auba. If they are fit & firing I'd fancy us. If not, might be a struggle again.

Hopefully we can do the business tonight and you can Saturday.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57951 on: January 28, 2021, 11:00:00 am »
Hopefully we can do the business tonight and you can Saturday.

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I love the heartbreak that spurs keep suffering every time they meet liverpool.  CL final, top of table clash, every time spurs need a good slap Liverpool step up.

Bit worried about today though I think it's their best chance for years. I hope they park the bus and lose in the last minute again. 

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57952 on: January 28, 2021, 02:22:28 pm »
Arteta really pulled off a masterstroke by putting Saka in the inside right role. Rowe coming in too. Things have started looking up since then.

Pepe on the left has the potential to work.

They just need a good striker looking towards next season. Lacazette has picked up but not too sure about him over the next 18 months. Finances will be clearly restricted so they need to find someone who is good value at a small price.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57953 on: January 28, 2021, 03:59:12 pm »
Arteta really pulled off a masterstroke by putting Saka in the inside right role. Rowe coming in too. Things have started looking up since then.

Pepe on the left has the potential to work.

They just need a good striker looking towards next season. Lacazette has picked up but not too sure about him over the next 18 months. Finances will be clearly restricted so they need to find someone who is good value at a small price.

Is it a master stroke or just law of averages that if he tries enough he’ll get it right eventually? Saka’s player everywhere hasn’t he? Is this his best position?

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57954 on: January 28, 2021, 04:26:14 pm »
Arteta really pulled off a masterstroke by putting Saka in the inside right role. Rowe coming in too. Things have started looking up since then.

Pepe on the left has the potential to work.

They just need a good striker looking towards next season. Lacazette has picked up but not too sure about him over the next 18 months. Finances will be clearly restricted so they need to find someone who is good value at a small price.

Pepe wont work anywhere, Martinelli on the left could work perfectly.

Arteta gets zero credit for anything he does, even if he wins a trophy its a fluke. I never had any doubts he has a clear plan, even when it wasn't working.

I think the masterstroke is Emile Smith Rowe, Saka was always going to be a superstar, ESR had been on loan at Huddersfield for a season where he had Ok showings but nothing spectacular.
Saka's best position is inside right where he can cut in and shoot or go outside and cross, he can use both feet, and while he can fill in other positions, he looks best playing there.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57955 on: January 28, 2021, 09:56:50 pm »
Hopefully we can do the business tonight and you can Saturday.

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Not sure we will manage our part but at least you guys managed part 1 with ease!  ;D

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57956 on: January 28, 2021, 10:32:39 pm »
Pepe wont work anywhere, Martinelli on the left could work perfectly.

Arteta gets zero credit for anything he does, even if he wins a trophy its a fluke. I never had any doubts he has a clear plan, even when it wasn't working.

I think the masterstroke is Emile Smith Rowe, Saka was always going to be a superstar, ESR had been on loan at Huddersfield for a season where he had Ok showings but nothing spectacular.
Saka's best position is inside right where he can cut in and shoot or go outside and cross, he can use both feet, and while he can fill in other positions, he looks best playing there.

Why's it taken him a year to play him there so  :P
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57957 on: January 29, 2021, 02:26:37 am »
Why's it taken him a year to play him there so  :P

When you’re a very young player, a year makes a big difference to development. I also don’t think it’s a bad idea for a manager to give everyone a chance when he joins a club, before settling on his best team.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57958 on: January 29, 2021, 09:25:36 am »
A bit of noise about Mustafi potentially being available, I'd be interested to know what North Bank and Scottish Goon think of him. Could he do a job for us? Why isn't he playing much this season?
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Artettacking Front Four?
« Reply #57959 on: January 29, 2021, 09:33:26 am »
A bit of noise about Mustafi potentially being available, I'd be interested to know what North Bank and Scottish Goon think of him. Could he do a job for us? Why isn't he playing much this season?

My Arsenal mate said he’s ok mostly and then a liability at times when the wires go loose. Does that sound a bit like Lovren? Anyway, doubt we’ll sign him but who knows.