Author Topic: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez  (Read 765884 times)

Offline classycarra

  • The Left Disonourable Chuntering Member For Scousepool.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 30,396
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3560 on: January 12, 2020, 12:58:55 pm »
That is the small picture yes.

The big picture is that Gomez with VVD conceded 8 goals in 20 games with this kind of sketchy moments being ever so rare. It's an exception to the rule. Nobody in their right mind should be expecting perfect defending against a team that wants to counter attack for 90 mins with two of the most skillful and fastest players in the league. Having a few dodgy moments in this kind of circumstance should be a given.

Nitpicking aside there's more than enough evidence to suggest this partnership truly is a real deal.

Nothing you're saying in there refutes my points. And if you quoted me in full you'd see that I put it in context, not just the small picture snapshot of a sentence you quoted - he's been exceptional for a large number of games either side of a couple of comparatively ropey performances against Watford and Spurs.

And of course noone expects perfection but that shouldn't really prevent anyone feeling comfortable to discuss football and our manager's view of a couple of imperfect moments (or "nitpicking" if thats what you think Klopp was doing) on a football forum.

Online smutchin

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,512
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3561 on: January 12, 2020, 01:32:22 pm »
Lets just be thankful we have 3 top class CB's at the club...

Ahem, four top class CBs!

Offline Morgana

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 5,622
  • Sanity is overrated.

Online Magix

  • Partial to Tarts
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,324
  • Just 5 points away
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3563 on: January 12, 2020, 01:57:05 pm »
Seems like a collective day off in terms of errors rather than Joe is being sloppy, where Hendo, MOM Gini all made some. No doubt the squad will have a sit down and analyse the game. They sure weren't pleased with themselves after the match.

Offline royhendo

  • RAWK Staff
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 253,074
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3564 on: January 14, 2020, 08:07:54 am »
That Lil Wayne clip is magic.

“Cos her uniform fit so tight...”
"Word of the day is 'philodox' (17th century): one who is in love with their own opinion, and who consequently believes that everyone else should share it."  @susie_dent on twitter - https://twitter.com/susie_dent/status/1419683653844668422

Offline nico 8

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,607
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3565 on: January 14, 2020, 08:23:12 am »
When did we last concede a goal with Gomez in the team. You don't change what's working. Matip will need to wait for his chance.

I don't think the statistic of not conceding a goal is the simplistic answer. I do, however, agree that the the player in possession and in form retains his spot unless he has a nightmare and needs to be pulled out from the firing line. Hence my view that Lovren was to retain his place even though there were many calling for Gomez to replace despite iffy performances.(Granted he was playing out of position and needed match sharpness). He has now grabbed his chance and is the incumbent. It is his position to lose.
I think the exception to the above is where Klopp decides to select a team based on the opposition. Lovren is better in the air but lacks Gomez's pace. Both have been and are part of the team that has produced the results. Even though Gomez had a below par game on the weekend, I see no reason to substitute him. More so when his pace against Martial / Rashford will be required.
I suppose another aspect is to decide which combination as a CB pairing and back 4 is best for the team? It may not necessarily be the best individual player. Virgil is a given. Which CB most compliments both him,, the rest of the backline and the team in terms of going forward and defending.

Offline SerbianScouser

  • Far from world class.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 15,808
  • ...All the best
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3566 on: January 19, 2020, 06:32:06 pm »
Only 6th clean sheet in a row in the league..

8 goals conceded in 21 games with VVD. No biggie, just luck and stuff...

Offline El Lobo

  • Chief Suck Up. Feel his breath on your face. Toxic, pathetic, arse-faced, weaselling slimeball. RAWK Maths Genius 2022.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 54,990
  • Pretty, pretty, pretty pretty good
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3567 on: January 19, 2020, 06:34:58 pm »
And here’s the ghost at the feast ;D

Excellent today as they all were
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

Offline Ravishing Rick Dude

  • Cut the music! Missed the 'Saka is shite!' memo.
  • No new LFC topics
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 7,849
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3568 on: January 19, 2020, 06:36:38 pm »
Second best CB in the league.
Rick for the rikes, prick for the pricks

SLAVA
UKRAINI

Offline oxenstierna

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,845
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3569 on: January 19, 2020, 06:38:14 pm »
Clean sheet merchant

Offline farawayred

  • Whizz For Atomms. Nucular boffin. A Mars A Day Helps Him Work, Rest And Play
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 26,309
  • Oh yes, I'm a believer!
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3570 on: January 19, 2020, 06:48:18 pm »
He had his best game today in the last 3-4, imperious performance!
Cruyff: "Victory is not enough, there also needs to be beautiful football."

Offline SerbianScouser

  • Far from world class.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 15,808
  • ...All the best
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3571 on: January 19, 2020, 07:17:17 pm »
Just noticed how pivotal he was for the goal blocking Maguire and allowing VVD that crucial bit of space to attack.

Klopp praised Krawietz for the set-pieces and you could see how clever this was; Joe may not necessarily be a huge threat on set-pieces but there are other ways to contribute , because regardless of players if we put VVD in a position to succeed he will continue to score all the time in these situations.

Online RedSince86

  • I blame Chris de Burgh
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 17,352
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3572 on: January 19, 2020, 07:19:43 pm »
Imperious.

Best CB on the planet under 25.
"Since its purchase by the sheikh of Abu Dhabi, Manchester City has managed to cheat its way into the top echelon of European football and create a global, immensely profitable football empire, ignoring rules along the way. The club's newfound glory is rooted in lies."

Offline farawayred

  • Whizz For Atomms. Nucular boffin. A Mars A Day Helps Him Work, Rest And Play
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 26,309
  • Oh yes, I'm a believer!
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3573 on: January 19, 2020, 07:29:35 pm »
Imperious.

Best CB on the planet under 25.
Which planet is under 25?

;D
Cruyff: "Victory is not enough, there also needs to be beautiful football."

Offline Asam

  • has a mankini
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,884
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3574 on: January 19, 2020, 09:31:57 pm »

The chemistry of the back 5 is best with Gomez and VVD, still can’t believe we got him for £3.5M, this is probably the biggest steal in the entire squad

Offline Agent99

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,202
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3575 on: January 19, 2020, 09:32:58 pm »
Got it all.

Offline Dudek savessssss.........!

  • Kopite
  • *****
  • Posts: 590
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop Forum
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3576 on: January 19, 2020, 09:47:09 pm »
Just watched his interview after the game on LFCTV and noticed the scar on his right cheek he got during the Sterling incident is still quite evident  :-\
There was a two-minute interlude where Liverpool’s three-man attack squared up against United’s three-man defence and basically stalked them back into their own penalty area, like battle-hardened mountain wolves closing in on a flock of geriatric sheep.  Barney Ronay at Anfield @barneyronay Sun 19 Jan 2020 20.36 GMT

Offline Ghost Town

  • RAWK snitch. Bands won't play no more. Too much fighting on the dance floor! Probably one of only three people who knows the meaning of "depuratory", the Suzy Dent-esque freakshow! Hannoying homunculus.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 14,899
  • mundus vult decipi
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3577 on: January 20, 2020, 07:16:49 am »
Which planet is under 25?

;D
Maguire's head?



[For joke purposes only, I have no idea how old Maguire actually is]
"Every man has a right to utter what he thinks truth, and every other man has a right to knock him down for it."
Samuel (not Glen) Johnson, as reported by James (not Joey) Boswell. They must have foreseen RAWK ;D

Online HardworkDedication

  • Hardwork and Dedication linked to many stories - Mingebag. Has no opinion of his own. Human news ticker tape.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,972
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3578 on: January 20, 2020, 07:35:13 am »
Only 6th clean sheet in a row in the league..

8 goals conceded in 21 games with VVD. No biggie, just luck and stuff...

It's 7 clean sheets in a row in the league  ;)

Offline hesbighesred

  • Wallasey Wrecker. But you can call me quick fingers. After a threesome with Stevie and Alex
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 12,440
    • Collaborative thoughts on Euro 2012
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3579 on: January 20, 2020, 08:26:48 am »
It's 7 clean sheets in a row in the league  ;)
So many that Alisson's now bang in the running for the golden gloves - which he'll win handsomely if we keep knocking them off at anything like this rate.
He is the cat who walks by himself, and all roads are alike to him.

Offline jckliew

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 9,208
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3580 on: January 20, 2020, 08:28:20 am »
It's 7 clean sheets in a row in the league  ;)

Back to the Joe norm.
My 12yr old son asked me: Is Blackburn a Racist name?

Offline rowan_d

  • boat. Señor Paolo de Souza-Farquharson :)
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 18,286
  • JFT96
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3581 on: January 20, 2020, 08:53:32 am »
Honestly feel a bit bad for Charlton, the price we paid for him. And I've always kinda liked Charlton anyway.

Find the lack of hype around him in England a bit odd, he's bloody brilliant and only going to get better if he can stay fit.

Offline SerbianScouser

  • Far from world class.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 15,808
  • ...All the best
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3582 on: January 20, 2020, 09:08:49 am »
It's 7 clean sheets in a row in the league  ;)
Yes but I was looking at Gomez - VVD partnership. Joe was RB at Bournemouth.

This partnership needs to be talked about more - they are firmly on the way of matching how good Carragher/Hyypia, Terry/Carvalho and Ferdinand/Vidic were at their peaks.

Online Fromola

  • For the love of god please shut the fuck up. Lomola... “The sky is falling and I’m off to tell the King!...” Places stock in the wrong opinions. Miserable F*cker! Could have done with Grujic and even Chirivella to tide us over this season
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 30,638
  • Could have done with Grujic and even Chirivella to
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3583 on: January 20, 2020, 09:39:10 am »
Honestly feel a bit bad for Charlton, the price we paid for him. And I've always kinda liked Charlton anyway.

Find the lack of hype around him in England a bit odd, he's bloody brilliant and only going to get better if he can stay fit.

The England fans boo him.
Could have done with Grujic and even Chirivella to tide us over this season

Online HardworkDedication

  • Hardwork and Dedication linked to many stories - Mingebag. Has no opinion of his own. Human news ticker tape.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,972
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3584 on: January 20, 2020, 09:50:00 am »
Yes but I was looking at Gomez - VVD partnership. Joe was RB at Bournemouth.

This partnership needs to be talked about more - they are firmly on the way of matching how good Carragher/Hyypia, Terry/Carvalho and Ferdinand/Vidic were at their peaks.

He went to centre back alongside Van Dijk in the first half when Lovren got injured  ;)

Offline LovelyCushionedHeader

  • Not so pleasant non-upholstered footer
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 14,680
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3585 on: January 20, 2020, 09:53:50 am »
Find the lack of hype around him in England a bit odd, he's bloody brilliant and only going to get better if he can stay fit.

Yep, it makes no sense. He has the potential to be the best centre back England have ever had, and is already the best of the current crop. Yet I reckon if you asked most England fans and pundits, they would play Maguire and Stones over him. But that sums them up! Its the same people who wanted Dier playing over Henderson in the World Cup and would still want Trippier or Walker over Trent.

I liked Martin Keown's comments about him when we played Everton in the Cup. You could tell he knows how good Gomez is, and was going out of his way to praise him in a way that suggested everyone else is an idiot for not seeing it.
And if the rain stops, and everything's dry.. she would cry, just so I could drink tears from her eyes.

Offline Crosby Nick

  • He was super funny. Used to do these super hilarious puns
  • RAWK Scribe
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 111,224
  • Poultry in Motion
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3586 on: January 20, 2020, 09:57:40 am »
Yeah, Keown has called him and his Van Dijk partnership our a few times, saying it will go down as an all time great partnership. He knows a fair bit about hood centre backs so that’s a big compliment. Joe is obviously a lot more graceful and better on the ball but wasn’t Keown known as they rash’? He was a very good one on one defender and man marker and I think he recognises a lot of Joe’s good attributes in these areas.

Offline rebel23

  • Rebel without a cause
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,319
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3587 on: January 20, 2020, 08:21:29 pm »
Gomez >>>>>>> Stones

One cost £3m and the other cost £50m.

Unbelievable.

Offline Goalposts for Jumpers

  • Mon Ranager's Alter-Ego.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,914
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3588 on: January 20, 2020, 08:30:57 pm »
He's a bit like Alisson. He doesn't seem to make any last ditch challenges. He doesn't win that many headers. But when he's there, no one can score against us.

He closes lanes, makes good decisions, stays calm, and he's quick, so very, very quick. Name a better CB in the world (other than VVD)....

Offline #RedDawn2020

  • Main Stander
  • ***
  • Posts: 121
  • We all Live in a Red and White Kop
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3589 on: January 20, 2020, 10:07:59 pm »
I am bemused by opposition fans claiming without Virgil our defense would fall off a cliff. Sure, nobody can replace the best defender on the planet. But nobody apart from us really seems to appreciate how good Sterling’s Bane, I mean Joe Gomez, really is and what a great partnership Matip and Gomez would be as well. In particular for an outlay of 3.5 million pounds.

I think in Gomez cases his perception might be diluted by some of his appearances as a RB for us. For both Matip and Gomez I think the lack of any kind of price tag as well as being a bit more introvert (than Virgil for example) and less fashionable (than John Stones with his kicking his missus out of his home and dating and older single mother now) for the general public. Long may it continue!
“Intensity is our identity.”

Offline No666

  • Married to Macca.
  • RAWK Scribe
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 16,720
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3590 on: January 21, 2020, 12:22:03 pm »
The Times today with an article headlined: Why Joe Gomez has elevated Liverpool to even greater heights. He's finally getting public acknowledgement.

Offline gerrardisgod

  • has all his sisters with him.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,972
  • Anal Dirge Prat
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3591 on: January 23, 2020, 09:55:46 pm »
Outstanding.
AHA!

Offline farawayred

  • Whizz For Atomms. Nucular boffin. A Mars A Day Helps Him Work, Rest And Play
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 26,309
  • Oh yes, I'm a believer!
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3592 on: January 23, 2020, 09:57:39 pm »
Raul gave him a lot of trouble, the ref called all 50-50 against him, and yet, he stood tall.
Cruyff: "Victory is not enough, there also needs to be beautiful football."

Offline Samie

  • The next Pharaoh of Egypt. The Ev of drafting! Rumoured to be the 7th, we may need that old magic back! The Timekeeper, ask him what time the action starts.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 65,946
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3593 on: January 23, 2020, 09:57:54 pm »
Big Joe and his Big Bro Virg, what a pair.  8)

Offline PIPA23

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 8,489
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3594 on: January 23, 2020, 10:01:56 pm »
!!!! simply great...

Offline Samie

  • The next Pharaoh of Egypt. The Ev of drafting! Rumoured to be the 7th, we may need that old magic back! The Timekeeper, ask him what time the action starts.
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 65,946
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3595 on: January 23, 2020, 10:05:46 pm »
We paid Charlton £3.5m for him. I think we should give them a pre season friendly as a thank you.  :lmao :lmao

Offline BobPaisley3

  • SirAlexFerguson2, the bad manc twat :)
  • Lead Matchday Commentator
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 14,928
  • PGMOL fanboy
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3596 on: January 23, 2020, 10:07:20 pm »
Brilliant today. Superb at the end, couldn’t win the header but made it so tough for Jimanez to do anything with it.
94 Corner to us. Last kick. Ali in the box and he’s scored

Offline Agent99

  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,202
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3597 on: January 23, 2020, 10:10:17 pm »
The foot race towards the end with Traore was awesome!

Offline farawayred

  • Whizz For Atomms. Nucular boffin. A Mars A Day Helps Him Work, Rest And Play
  • RAWK Supporter
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 26,309
  • Oh yes, I'm a believer!
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3598 on: January 23, 2020, 10:12:47 pm »
We paid Charlton £3.5m for him. I think we should give them a pre season friendly as a thank you.  :lmao :lmao
The Metropolitan Police is reopening a cold case of mid-day robbery.
Cruyff: "Victory is not enough, there also needs to be beautiful football."

Offline kloppagetime

  • Is severely disappointed with Liverpool’s performance levels in 2020, especially pre-season.
  • Legacy Fan
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,658
Re: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez
« Reply #3599 on: January 23, 2020, 10:13:32 pm »
Brilliant performance today probably my MOTM