Topic: Hillsborough trial collapses

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

But expert witness Sir Robert Francis QC told the jury there was no legal duty of candour for police at a public inquiry.

So we can discount anything said at future public enquiries as we won’t know the difference between who is lying and who isn’t.

The findings of future public enquiries will be difficult to assess not to mention write up.

Feel for everyone, but sadly not surprised with the outcome.
They played for time, offered Mackrell up as a sacrifice then got the sweeping brush out. I just hope that those involved have not been able to rest easy over the last 32 years - just like the families

Going forward there needs to be action against people coming out with lies. The underlying facts of the case are clear - perhaps the needs to be a fund to bring slander/libel cases against people deliberately misrepresenting the facts of the case?

What a terrible precedent, allowing the Police to lie at inquiries.

[Red_Rich]

Absolutely disgusting.  I feel sick to the stomach. 

How can none of them be held accountable for a criminal offence on such a mass scale as this?!

The whole fucking corrupt system is as bent as a Boxing Day turd.  Utterly insane.

[mersey_paradiso]

Disgraceful and sickening. JFT96 - never, ever forgotten.

[24/7]

I certainly didn't. 

On a personal note I was 27 years old when Hillsborough happened. My whole life ahead of me.  I am now 60 and have had my life totally consumed by Hillsborough. 

I just keep wondering, what would my life have been without this consuming me?

Big love to you, Millie....

[fredfrop]

I'm raging, I'm nearly in tears for those who've gone through all of this. I want to burn something down.

[Oldmanmick]

96 people unlawfully killed & no one's to blame.

How does that work then ?

[Big Bamber]

But expert witness Sir Robert Francis QC told the jury there was no legal duty of candour for police at a public inquiry.

So we can discount anything said at future public enquiries as we won’t know the difference between who is lying and who isn’t.

The findings of future public enquiries will be difficult to assess not to mention write up.

That certainly seems to be the case for non- statutory inquiries. I am in no way close to these issues (so apologies) but if it hasn’t been done already, it would be worth investigating the decision to make the Taylor inquiry non-statutory, a decision that is having massive repercussions today.

[24/7]

96 people unlawfully killed & no one's to blame.

How does that work then ?

Dodgy handshakes, laaa.

[Commie Bobbie]

Dodgy handshakes, laaa.

Corruption is at the heart of everything to do with the Establishment, as we all know Jim.

Hate to say it, but if we want any form of justice - or for this country to suffer any form of consequences for the establishment's actions - its time to play dirty.

The Euros are coming up, the one thing that abortion in Number 10 is pinning his hopes on to save his arse.

[kaesarsosei]

96 people were found to be unlawfully killed, that's a fact.

Here is what I would like to happen and I know this is fanciful and not possible in our legal system. We have to accept someone is to blame for this. Round up every single one of them in a court - whether that is 2,3, 9 or 10 people ranging from the police in charge to the stewards, Sheff Wed's board to the FA. And let them argue it out between each other in a court and have a jury decide at the end who is guilty.

This is the problem with our judicial system, its too binary. Its clear someone is to blame here, and there are no mysterious figures who we aren't aware of - these people are all known. The law is an ass.

[Sharado]

Some fucking country this.

[Circa1892]

Someone needs to sue this Goldberg c*nt.

[Circa1892]

Goldberg told a verified lie in public - which I believe is contrary to his professional obligations.

https://www.barstandardsboard.org.uk/online-reporting-form.html?route2_3

[jimbo196843]

These are the people leading the country. It’s frightening. The same will happen for the people who are responsible for Grenfell.
If you have money or are part of the establishment in this country you are untouchable.
Anyway my thoughts are with the families who have been so dignified for the last 32 years, your loved ones will never be forgotten

[Circa1892]

These are the people leading the country. It’s frightening. The same will happen for the people who are responsible for Grenfell.
If you have money or are part of the establishment in this country you are untouchable.
Anyway my thoughts are with the families who have been so dignified for the last 32 years, your loved ones will never be forgotten

Yep.

The judiciary are a fucking mess. Jobs for life - and they’re almost all posh old white guys from certain backgrounds with certain connections.

[Barneylfc∗]

Did you expect acquittal on the technicality that it's okay to lie in a public enquiry........?

Not quite that, but expected them to get away with it.

[FLRed67]

And we like to think the world is ruled by laws. Incredible.

[FLRed67]

Yep.

The judiciary are a fucking mess. Jobs for life - and they’re almost all posh old white guys from certain backgrounds with certain connections.

And often selected because there is something that makes them easily controlled .    .     .

[24/7]

Not quite that, but expected them to get away with it.

Definitely yeah - the way in which it's been done just smacks of planning - days after the league ends and the day Cummings will be spread across the headlines for the next 48 hours or so - and ahead of possible public enquiry into BoJo's corrupt clan.....

[royhendo]

My heart just bursts for everyone affected by it. Just awful.

[rushyman]

They’re Evil

[thaddeus]

Definitely yeah - the way in which it's been done just smacks of planning - days after the league ends and the day Cummings will be spread across the headlines for the next 48 hours or so - and ahead of possible public enquiry into BoJo's corrupt clan.....

It had the added bonus for the bastards of putting the defending QC on prime-time radio having a dig at Andy Burnham.  Handy timing as Burnham looks like being at the heart of another local vs. national government argument in the coming days and weeks.

[Spongebob Redpants]

Shameful , but expected !

[rossipersempre]

Charles Dickens had it right. The law is indeed an ass.

Arse-covering, rank-closing fuckers....the lot of them.

[Samie]

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1397539153844310017

It is with huge disappointment that Liverpool Football Club notes the latest developments in the judicial process relating to the Hillsborough disaster. 

The 96 will never be forgotten.

[Samie]

It is with huge disappointment that Liverpool Football Club notes the latest developments in the judicial process relating to the Hillsborough disaster.

While it would not be our place, legally or otherwise, to comment on those proceedings as they pertain to individuals, it is incumbent on us to forcefully point out that the 96 victims, their families, survivors and all those who suffered as a result of the Hillsborough tragedy have continuously been failed in their pursuit for justice.

We salute all those who have campaigned for justice. They have been let down yet again.

We have a situation in which 96 people were unlawfully killed and yet no individual or group has been deemed legally culpable for their deaths.

As ever, our thoughts are with the families, survivors and campaigners and we would reiterate that, as established by the 2016 inquests, the behaviour of our supporters was not a contributory factor in the disaster, a truth for which the bereaved families had to fight for over a quarter of a century.

The 96 will never be forgotten.

[Thepooloflife]

Utterly, utterly flabbergasted - absolute corrupt set of bastards....I'm fucking shaking with rage !

I feel for the families so much - heartbreaking ! Like Millie, this has occupied my mind for half my life - and this is the end result ? When I calm down - I'll cry buckets I know I will....then finish off the open bottle of Bushmills I started last Sunday.

Justice for the 96 - RIP the 96.

[Harinder]

They show no regard for the living that survived or the dead that have passed. It's so heartbreaking thinking of how families and survivors feel right now.

Nobody from the SYP and WMPC cohort of bastards should be able to sit comfortably to think they've got away with it, again. Nobody

[24/7]

It had the added bonus for the bastards of putting the defending QC on prime-time radio having a dig at Andy Burnham.  Handy timing as Burnham looks like being at the heart of another local vs. national government argument in the coming days and weeks.

I'm sure Andy will have a suitable response very soon........

[24/7]

Thanks for that - great statement from the club. A thinly-veiled eff off to the corrupt system.

[Medellin]

Disgusted..Yes
Surprised..No

[Hazell]

Thanks for that - great statement from the club. A thinly-veiled eff off to the corrupt system.

Yep, agreed.

[Red Beret]

Prob worth mentioning it's best to watch what is said in here.

Aye.  What I want to say isn't repeatable.  But I'm thinking it.  Lots of it.

Love and respect to you all.

[Trada]

Hillsborough: Relatives of four of the 96 unlawfully killed, Henry Burke, 47, Brian Matthews, 38, Sarah and Vicki Hicks, 19 & 15, talking to the media following the collapsed trial 32 years later.

Have said the trial was “a farce.”

[fredfrop]

Margaret Aspinall called it "the cover up of the cover up of the cover up". She's not wrong.

Gloves are off, gags are removed. With nobody on trial (and no realistic prospect of there ever being anybody else brought to trial) I'd say the days of keeping our powder dry ARE FUCKING OVER!!!!!

Is there room to release everything you have and dare these bastards to sue you for libel? I'd contribute towards a defence fund.

[Commie Bobbie]

Margaret Aspinall called it "the cover up of the cover up of the cover up". She's not wrong.

Gloves are off, gags are removed. With nobody on trial (and no realistic prospect of there ever being anybody else brought to trial) I'd say the days of keeping our powder dry ARE FUCKING OVER!!!!!

Damn fucking right.

It's time to play dirty.

Start of next season. Start of the Euros. If we have to - Doesn't need to be at Anfield - can be wherever we want it to be. Take the fucking war to whoever and wherever we want.

United haven't been punished for their fans doing what they did at the end of last season - as far as I'm concerned its open fucking season now.

The FA haven't been punished. They need to be.

The Tories haven't been punished. They have to be.

And as for News International. Well.

We don't stop until the authorities are fucking bleeding.

Start with this c*nt.

jonathan.goldberg@goldbergqc.com

[Thepooloflife]

Damn fucking right.

It's time to play dirty.

Start of next season. Start of the Euros. If we have to - Doesn't need to be at Anfield - can be wherever we want it to be. Take the fucking war to whoever and wherever we want.

United haven't been punished for their fans doing what they did at the end of last season - as far as I'm concerned its open fucking season now.

The FA haven't been punished. They need to be.

The Tories haven't been punished. They have to be.

And as for News International. Well.

We don't stop until the authorities are fucking bleeding.

Start with this c*nt.

jonathan.goldberg@goldbergqc.com

Is right......I'm with you brother - we need to nail these bastards.

[Mister Flip Flop]

Not a surprise unfortunately. Bent doesn't even begin to describe it.

[paulrazor]

I certainly didn't. 

On a personal note I was 27 years old when Hillsborough happened. My whole life ahead of me.  I am now 60 and have had my life totally consumed by Hillsborough. 

I just keep wondering, what would my life have been without this consuming me?

i feel so sorry for people like you

i wish i had better words mate.

[Circa1892]

Damn fucking right.

It's time to play dirty.

Start of next season. Start of the Euros. If we have to - Doesn't need to be at Anfield - can be wherever we want it to be. Take the fucking war to whoever and wherever we want.

United haven't been punished for their fans doing what they did at the end of last season - as far as I'm concerned its open fucking season now.

The FA haven't been punished. They need to be.

The Tories haven't been punished. They have to be.

And as for News International. Well.

We don't stop until the authorities are fucking bleeding.

Start with this c*nt.

jonathan.goldberg@goldbergqc.com

You’re right. With Goldberg - best to start by reporting his comments today to the Bar Standards Board. Wrote a lengthy one myself earlier. Although they don’t listen to people like us.