Topic: Never mind 'Stop the Boats' - STOP THE TORIES

[Nobby Reserve]

Missed this last week so apols if posted. Billions up in smoke

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61749657

Burning the evidence!

https://bylinetimes.com/2022/04/28/crime-and-coronavirus-ppe-fraud-now-subject-of-investigation/

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/29/nca-launches-investigation-ppe-firm-linked-to-michelle-mone

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/covid-contract-matt-hancock-alex-bourne-b1805330.html

[TSC]

Breaking news on sky - Lord Geidt states the reason given for his departure re trade rules & the WTO wasn’t accurate.  His departure was because of an accumulation of various issues and impact on the ministerial code (paraphrasing sky news report).

[Nobby Reserve]

Breaking news on sky - Lord Geidt states the reason given for his departure re trade rules & the WTO wasn’t accurate.  His departure was because of an accumulation of various issues and impact on the ministerial code (paraphrasing sky news report).

So it wasn't just re trade rules & the WTO

[HarryLabrador]

Breaking news on sky - Lord Geidt states the reason given for his departure re trade rules & the WTO wasn’t accurate.  His departure was because of an accumulation of various issues and impact on the ministerial code (paraphrasing sky news report).

The straw that broke the camel's back.

[Machae]

He's gone to Kiev, probably on instruction from his Russian backers to try and convince Ukraine not to join the EU.

Everytime the heats on him, he announces some Ukrainian PR

https://mobile.twitter.com/janemerrick23/status/1537753843420876801

[hide5seek]

The week in Tory (Russ Jones) is a brilliant and frightening twitter read.
Some tasters.


1. Let’s start with spindly, posturing mantis Jacob Rees-Mogg, who this week blocked a bill that spares elephants from torture

15. A number of things have subtly changed since the Rwanda plan was first announced by Priti Patel, a smirking, razor-faced ghoul with all the warmth and tenderness of a Klingon backstreet abortionist. I will now describe them...


35. The UN said UK policy “violates fundamental principles”

54. A Tory backbencher said “the government is lying to its own MPs and the media” about the legality of its bill


76. And finally, after last week’s announcement that the govt would extend the “right to buy” to include people who haven’t even got enough money to eat, startled halibut Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove admitted they hadn’t even bothered to do an impact assessment on the idea

https://twitter.com/RussInCheshire/status/1537757078558760960

[Flaccido Dongingo]

The week in Tory (Russ Jones) is a brilliant and frightening twitter read.
Some tasters.


1. Let’s start with spindly, posturing mantis Jacob Rees-Mogg, who this week blocked a bill that spares elephants from torture

15. A number of things have subtly changed since the Rwanda plan was first announced by Priti Patel, a smirking, razor-faced ghoul with all the warmth and tenderness of a Klingon backstreet abortionist. I will now describe them...


35. The UN said UK policy “violates fundamental principles”

54. A Tory backbencher said “the government is lying to its own MPs and the media” about the legality of its bill


76. And finally, after last week’s announcement that the govt would extend the “right to buy” to include people who haven’t even got enough money to eat, startled halibut Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Fuckwitted Pob lookalike Michael Gove admitted they hadn’t even bothered to do an impact assessment on the idea

https://twitter.com/RussInCheshire/status/1537757078558760960

RussinCheshire is a huge biff.

[hide5seek]

RussinCheshire is a huge biff.

No idea what that means?

[killer-heels]

Was watching Question Time and I cant stand that fucking Iceland Tory twat. Couldnt believe an actual boss of a major firm would come out and not criticise the Rwanda policy.

[west_london_red]

Was watching Question Time and I cant stand that fucking Iceland Tory twat. Couldnt believe an actual boss of a major firm would come out and not criticise the Rwanda policy.

Yeah, they might as well have just invited along another Tory MP and had done with it.

[killer-heels]

Yeah, they might as well have just invited along another Tory MP and had done with it.

Gets asked a question over the Ethics advisor quitting and he parrots the line that we should move on. Is clearly more concerned with the plight of Amazon monkeys than he is helping this country get a proper PM.

[Jiminy Cricket]

No idea what that means?

Ditto. Though, it seems to carry a negative quality. Sounds like something Bullingdon Club member would say.

[TSC]

Now and again (very infrequently sadly) you come across something surprising.  A column in today’s guardian quotes Jeremy Clarkson commenting on refugees. “In many ways they are like brave souls from East Yorkshire & Ireland who crossed the Atlantic to start a new life in America.  These are people with gumption. With drive. So why are we putting them in detention centres”.  Taken from the unmentionable Tory rag from last year apparently.  I always had him down as a Frottage type.  Obviously not.

[hide5seek]

Now and again (very infrequently sadly) you come across something surprising.  A column in today’s guardian quotes Jeremy Clarkson commenting on refugees. “In many ways they are like brave souls from East Yorkshire & Ireland who crossed the Atlantic to start a new life in America.  These are people with gumption. With drive. So why are we putting them in detention centres”.  Taken from the unmentionable Tory rag from last year apparently.  I always had him down as a Frottage type.  Obviously not.

Voted remain as well. Probably still votes Tory though. Lots of remainers are Tories and they still vote Tory, the plebs.

[KillieRed]

Some people think voting Tory is economically beneficial to them , despite all evidence to the contrary, but have liberal social views. It’s only when we convince them that they are actually getting screwed financially too that things will change.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Some people think voting Tory is economically beneficial to them , despite all evidence to the contrary, but have liberal social views. It’s only when we convince them that they are actually getting screwed financially too that things will change.

I think you underestimate how honestly thick the UK population are

Years ago I used to laugh when I read that one day the UK public would be as easily manipulated as the US population and would actively act against their best interests routinely

[No666]

Some people think voting Tory is economically beneficial to them , despite all evidence to the contrary, but have liberal social views. It’s only when we convince them that they are actually getting screwed financially too that things will change.

I think it's more they are scared they'll be screwed under Labour. The number of young people I know who purport to be Labour supporters and yet who moaned when Osborne (from memory) got rid of the dividend tax credit, which allowed them, as freelancers or small business owners, to avoid income tax. These are people who have got used to a low tax environment. Bit of a moot point right now of course, but while people consistently say they'd pay higher tax to fund the NHS or bump Universal Credit, what they really mean is they want other people to pay higher tax. Because the person who can afford higher tax is always someone who earns a bit more than you. Starmer will have to find that third way, whatever the left's perception of Blair/Brown centrism.

[PaulF]

No666. Nail on head. Plenty want to see the big increase in public spending they associate with a labour government. But they don't want to pay the taxes they expect they would have to pay to fund it.

[Dr. Beaker]

No666. Nail on head. Plenty want to see the big increase in public spending they associate with a labour government. But they don't want to pay the taxes they expect they would have to pay to fund it.

Perhaps Labour should just promise to give less to their mates than the Tories do.

[Wilmo]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/18/strike-chaoes-teachers-nhs-staff-action-pay-rail-unions

Ah, yes. Right on cue, the inevitiable wide-scale societal collapse which always follows a Tory government.

[reddebs]

I've just had the "pleasure" of spending 3 days with the dumb shite ex labour voting brexiteers of Yorkshire.

One complaining she's got to pay for a PCR test when she takes the grandkids to Tenerife in August which the Spanish government doesn't require of EU countries.  Well duh!!!

Another who jumped to the wrong conclusion when I said I was annoyed always hearing that we can't afford..... cut me off mid sentence to rant about all these people on telly with their nails, lashes, extensions and latest iPhones saying they can't afford to feed their kids or heat their homes should stop spending on luxuries.

What I was about to say was.... we can't afford to help with the crisis because those with the least are the ones expected to divvy up the most and now there's fuck all left instead of targeting the super rich but that people are genuinely struggling even if you aren't.

Twats the lot of them!!

[NCrawley]

Not sure if anyone has seen this song by Tom Walker. Not as though he is an unknown singer so fair play for using his platform 👏

https://youtu.be/APUCSWZE4TI

[PaulF]

A couple of people have said about EU countries not covid testing other EU nationals. But they are COVID testing Brits. Have we got significant variants or higher rates? Otherwise I'm not sure why they would need that policy.

[killer-heels]

A couple of people have said about EU countries not covid testing other EU nationals. But they are COVID testing Brits. Have we got significant variants or higher rates? Otherwise I'm not sure why they would need that policy.

If i were in charge of a European nation i would insist we do that out of spite.

[Nobby Reserve]

Early editions of the Sunday Times ran an expose on Bozo trying to get his then mistress Carrie Symonds a £100k Foreign Office job, when Bozo was Foreign Sec and still married to Marina Wheeler.

The story was then pulled, with rumours about pressure from No10, and even that Bozo had taken out a super-injunction.

Other news outlets totally ignoring it suggests the latter, or perhaps just plain corruption and another step along the way to dictatorship.

https://twitter.com/Ian_Fraser/status/1538266832674738177

https://twitter.com/Tim_Burgess/status/1538488529537359873

[rob1966]

A couple of people have said about EU countries not covid testing other EU nationals. But they are COVID testing Brits. Have we got significant variants or higher rates? Otherwise I'm not sure why they would need that policy.

Most EU countries don't accept the covid recovery certificate for non vaccinated, but will accept the EU wide certificate, which we can't get sue to Brexit and our useless Govt not sorting out the UK getting it, so might be because of that.

We are, after all, a 3rd country now, outside of the EU and will be treated as suck. Just because the English government still thinks we have an Empire and are superior to everyone else doesn't mean we are

[Sangria]

Most EU countries don't accept the covid recovery certificate for non vaccinated, but will accept the EU wide certificate, which we can't get sue to Brexit and our useless Govt not sorting out the UK getting it, so might be because of that.

We are, after all, a 3rd country now, outside of the EU and will be treated as suck. Just because the English government still thinks we have an Empire and are superior to everyone else doesn't mean we are

We certainly suck.

[lobsterboy]

Early editions of the Sunday Times ran an expose on Bozo trying to get his then mistress Carrie Symonds a £100k Foreign Office job, when Bozo was Foreign Sec and still married to Marina Wheeler.

The story was then pulled, with rumours about pressure from No10, and even that Bozo had taken out a super-injunction.

Other news outlets totally ignoring it suggests the latter, or perhaps just plain corruption and another step along the way to dictatorship.

https://twitter.com/Ian_Fraser/status/1538266832674738177

https://twitter.com/Tim_Burgess/status/1538488529537359873

A few more years of these in power and any journalists who write such stories will start getting jailed or worse.

[KillieRed]

A few more years of these in power and any journalists who write such stories will start getting jailed or worse.

Probably won`t get that far as the stories won`t make the light of day. Sackings will probably get the job done.

[Mr Benn please?]

Early editions of the Sunday Times ran an expose on Bozo trying to get his then mistress Carrie Symonds a £100k Foreign Office job, when Bozo was Foreign Sec and still married to Marina Wheeler.

The story was then pulled, with rumours about pressure from No10, and even that Bozo had taken out a super-injunction.

Other news outlets totally ignoring it suggests the latter, or perhaps just plain corruption and another step along the way to dictatorship.

https://twitter.com/Ian_Fraser/status/1538266832674738177

https://twitter.com/Tim_Burgess/status/1538488529537359873

apparently the tweets have been shared millions of times on Twitter - I guess in these days of social media super injunctions don't work that well. What a pity!

I wonder whether super injunctions are applicable to parliament? It would great if in PMQs Starmer was able to ask Johnson if it was true that he wanted to use £100k of tax payers money to give his then mistress a job when he was Foreign Secretary. Would be very embarrassing for the Govt and potentially quite damaging in the forthcoming by elections, both of which have been caused by Tory sleaze.   

[No666]

Rumours that he has two super injunctions in existence at the moment, one for the Walters story and one for something else (but entirely predictable).

[Nobby Reserve]

Rumours that he has two super injunctions in existence at the moment, one for the Walters story and one for something else (but entirely predictable).

https://twitter.com/imincorrigible/status/1399279679622766593?lang=en-GB

How does one tell if a super injunction exists? E.g. if Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson had an affair with a Russian violinist named 'Olga D' or 'Olga Kholodnaya' last year, and had taken out a SI, would that be recorded in a central register that the media must consult before publication?

[Ray K]

Politics Home

Number 10 has confirmed that members of the Prime Minister's team personally intervened before a story about his wife Carrie Johnson was withdrawn from publication in The Times – but denied that Boris Johnson was personally involved in the discussions.

The story in question, written by veteran political reporter Simon Walters, contained accusations that the Prime Minister tried to hire then-partner Carrie Symonds as his chief of staff in the Foreign Office while working as Foreign Secretary. The pair have since married.

It also alleges that when advisers heard of the plan, they managed to convince Johnson against it.

The story appeared on page five of The Times’ early print editions but was swiftly removed from late copies of the paper, as well as from online. The MailOnline, which also picked up the story, deleted its copy too.

Number 10 and Carrie Johnson strongly deny the allegations. However, Walters told The New European: “I stand by the story 100 per cent.”

Over the weekend Twitter users including former Times reporters expressed confusion over why the story had been “mysteriously” pulled online. By Monday morning the hashtag “Carriegate” was trending on the platform.

A senior source at The Times denied to PoliticsHome that any discussions over between the Prime Minister and the paper’s editor Tony Gallagher took place regarding the matter. “It’s 100% a lie,” they said. “It's just totally untrue.”

A senior Number 10 source told PoliticsHome: “You’ll be aware that he was in Ukraine on Friday and travelled back overnight.”

However, a spokesperson for Number 10 confirmed that members of the Prime Minister’s team spoke to the paper directly about the story after its initial publication.

[thaddeus]

An amusing attempt to create an alibi for Johnson there.  He was in Ukraine m'lud and was travelling at the time the alleged conversation took place - look 'ere's 'is ticket!

We're left with no alternative but to believe that the "Prime Minister’s team" acted autonomously and without Johnson being aware 

The Tories that backed him thinking they could "draw a line under it" were very naïve if they didn't think he'd have many more skeletons precariously balanced in his closet.

[Nobby Reserve]

Bozo is recovering after a minor nose operation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61865032

Septum reconstruction job?

[HarryLabrador]

Bozo is recovering after a minor nose operation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61865032

Septum reconstruction job?

What a drama queen! He walks off the stage every time he is required to answer awkward questions.

[thaddeus]

I'm not sure if we have a Labour thread anymore after the in-fighting but, if we do, happy for a Mod to move this there:

Labour's shadow foreign secretary David Lammy is under investigation for allegedly breaking rules for declaring financial interests.

The Parliamentary Standards probe is looking at possible breaches to the MPs' code of conduct.

MPs must register changes to their financial interests within 28 days, but Mr Lammy's financial register contained interests recorded after that period.

Starmer also being investigated for the same thing.  On the face of it this seems like a minor indiscretion as the interests were recorded but outside of the 28-day limit.

I don't know much about Kathryn Stone (Parliamentary Standards commissioner) beyond her notoriety for the Owen Paterson investigation.  Based on that particular investigation I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt as being impartial but it does feel a bit like petty muck to divert attention off the many scandals involving Tory MPs - not least the PM!

[Nobby Reserve]

Have I Got News For You
@haveigotnews
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson recovering after minor operation on his nose. Unconfirmed reports suggest he’s had about 2ft taken off.

https://twitter.com/haveigotnews/status/1538866746018480129

[HarryLabrador]

Have I Got News For You
@haveigotnews
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson recovering after minor operation on his nose. Unconfirmed reports suggest he’s had about 2ft taken off.

https://twitter.com/haveigotnews/status/1538866746018480129

That's brilliant 

[Jiminy Cricket]

A senior source at The Times denied to PoliticsHome that any discussions over between the Prime Minister and the paper’s editor Tony Gallagher took place regarding the matter. “It’s 100% a lie,” they said. “It's just totally untrue.”

[...]

However, a spokesperson for Number 10 confirmed that members of the Prime Minister’s team spoke to the paper directly about the story after its initial publication.

So, not a '100% lie', then. Splitting hairs, at best.